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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:08 PM
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Why Bush is itching to declare martial law
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 08:28 PM by StefanX
After Katrina, and now before the Avian Flu, we've all seen that W is trying to find an excuse to declare martial law. Why?

It's really very simple and obvious: his violations of the Espionage Act (Plamegate) and the Geneva Convention (Abu Ghraib -- videos of American soldiers raping Iraqi boys) could get him the death penalty.

He desperately needs a "crisis" so that all laws will be suspended.

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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:11 PM
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1. and when they try to collect all the guns - slap in that repuke nra face
I'm laughing out loud..
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:19 PM
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7. Nah, he'll probably declare some modified marshall law...
You can keep your guns if you sign a loyalty oath.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:27 PM
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11. BUSTED BY THE SPELLING COPS!!! It's marTIAL. n/t
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:12 PM
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22. Don't scare me!
I though you wrote marital law. Yipes. Been there done that.
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:33 PM
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27. Nah, with Chimp it probably IS marshall, or maybe marshull.
(You got me; it's too late and I'm too tired to notice spelling.)
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:53 PM
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20. But...but;..but...
I thought a * victory meant they would just as well be operating out of the White House... :shrug:
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:11 PM
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2. Duh ya think?
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:12 PM
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3. StefanX, you are on target!
I am not sure he worries about being prosecuted, though, so much as he worries about not being in charge.

http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:12 PM
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4. 'Cause he's a fascistic bastard?
:mad:
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:16 PM
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5. In what alternative universe will this happen???
his violations of the Espionage Act and the Geneva Convention could get him the death penalty.


He can be impeached for whatever crimes he can be convicted of, but he will be pardoned by whoever follows him, even a democratic president
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:18 PM
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6. Can Bush be pardoned for violating the Geneva Convention?
I'm not a legal expert... does anyone know the answer to this?

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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:22 PM
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8. Pardons apply to US law.
The world court has no jurisdiction in the US. Nor should it.

Are the UN blue helmets going to haul bush away. Not likely
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:25 PM
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10. Why do you say "not likely"?
If the Abu Ghraib videos come out showing American soldiers raping Iraqi boys, somebody's going to have to be held accountable.

Europe wouldn't want to be seen as condoning that kind of stuff. It would be in their interest to hold Bush accountable.

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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:34 PM
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17. The USA is a sovereign nation and the UN will never
ever, in like forever, not ever going to happen, have police powers to arrest a president or any government official or citizen.

The president could be caught with a dead women or live boy and still not be hold accountable by europe or any foreign body or government except by the citizens of the USA and their elected officials
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:30 PM
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14. According to the Constitution,
US treaties are the supreme law of the land- on equal footing with any federal statute.

Not that I thnk Bush or any of his cronies would *ever* be held accountable the way a regular citizen would.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:40 AM
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31. LOL, if Bush gets indicted for war crimes in absentia, I would hope
that the Hague would sneak into the US and snatch him out, like he thinks is ok for the US to do with "terrorists" in other countries. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Whisk him away by dead of night, maybe take him to a country where they allow novel means, to extract a full confession from him.

Bush may very well never have another good night's sleep for as long as he lives.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:23 PM
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9. X-actly!
Just what I told my brother tonight.

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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:30 PM
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12. After Katrina and Pakistan and before the flu
All I feel like is, what's next?

And since it's hopefully past the pg13 on a Friday night, it's like, if I knew where the fuck to go, I'd fucking go there. Maybe, if possible. But, where? Switzerland looks best, but it's hard as hell to get into, they don't especially need anybody. I don't know, it looks like people are starting to wake up. But, that wouldn't stop a corrupt admin from trying to use violence, and we know they're corrupt. And murderous. Crisis works well for them.

What's most important, I very strongly think, is communication. This type of communication, the internet, as well as phone, all types really. If crazy stuff starts to happen, it WILL sound crazy without numerous people convincing numerous other people that it happened, and for it to be widely distributed after that before anyone can do anything about it. There MUST be maintained communication. IF it takes too long for a particular story to get out and about, well I think time could be crucial.

Not to sound too nutty. Or doomsday. I don't know, can I get away with talking doomsday now, I mean, how many thousand of humans have to die in how many ways for things to seem widespread catastrophic? I don't mean to be flippant.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:30 PM
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13. OK that explains Bush
Now tell me why the Democrats have been so silent about Bush's idea to use the military on us for the flu? The silence of the Dem's on this issue has me more worried about them than Bush. Where is Nancy? Where is Harry? Where are any of the Dem's?

Don
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:34 PM
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16. Correct
Dem silence is troubling.
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:43 PM
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19. Good point - I hadn't thought of that
Why ARE the Dems being silent on this?

I have never been so nervous about this country.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:22 PM
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24. The DEMs are sore afraid of getting the "Wellstone Treatment."
Just like in CCCP.

No man.

No problem.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:32 PM
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15. Like the PNAC paper. If they don't get a Pearl Harbor, they'll invent one.
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 08:39 PM by Metta
There's not much difference between what they're doing and a dictatorship, imo. They already think they can break any law or rule they want and ignore public opinion.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:34 PM
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18. Because as he himself once so clearly stated:
It would be so much easier if I were a dictator!

Why not just believe the guy the one time he made a single coherant statement? We already know he doesn't really like "hard work"!!
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greygandalf Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:57 PM
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21. You state the soldiers raping boys like its fact
I would not throw it out like you are without some proof. Especially if you are claiming videos. They were most likely take with a digital camera. In that case I think they would be out by now. Hard as heck to cover up something like that.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:25 PM
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26. You don't really follow the news much, do ya?
Welcome to DU.
Stick around awhile,
you might learn something.
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greygandalf Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:33 PM
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28. I've heard the claims.
That the judges are denying the release of some pictures. They say they are bad pictures, etc. That does not make me jump to the comclusion of raping boys. I lurked.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 01:16 PM
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33. You missed Republican Lindsay Graham talking about the pics
of "rape and murder", obviously.

As well as missing the Sy Hersh article.

You need to get caught up on facts. :)
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:49 PM
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29. Haven't read the news much lately, have you?
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:18 PM
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23. Megalomaniac
I keep wondering that myself. Why is this guy so freakin evil??
He's probably psychotic or a megalomaniac.
Just plain nuts.
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Tinksrival Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:22 PM
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25. Does any one remember
Bush's so called summer reading list of books?
I was in the book store today and I saw a book on Influenza and it struck me that it was one of the books Bush was reading which I thought was odd at the time. So I flipped though it today and there was alot on the government and some info on martial law. I got a bad case of the willies and I put it back.

I did put Joe Wilsons book in front of that creepy FBI Freeh's hit piece on Big Dog.:evilgrin:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:14 AM
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30. I agree 100% n/t
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 01:47 AM
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32. Will those videos show
American soldiers/MERCS what have you raping or Iraqi "soldiers?"
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