The Biggest Drug Dealers

[crowshadow]

The sudden and almost fear mongering approach of the media and governments concerning the Bird Flu raises a few questions. It would seem that bird flu has existed since birds have existed and one important question might be, what elements are creating this new “inevitable threat”?

I recall raising chickens and have had no experiences with adult chickens and “flu” but a common problem with raising chicks is that if they even get a slight chill they will develop a “cold” and if not immediately treated the chick will more than likely die. I have treated a number of chicks with cold symptoms, “running nose” and at times “leg paralysis” where what I saw. Treatment with cyanine pepper, protection from drafts brought the chicks back. I don’t know if these “colds” were related in anyway to “bird flu”.

I do recall one of the dirtiest jobs on the farm as being cleaning the chicken coop. I would prefer cleaning the cow barn or pig barn before dealing with chicken shit. Even a flock of a couple of dozen birds made a cleaning job that was not very pleasant and if you breathed much of the dust in the cleaning process you were almost always guaranteed a cold.

Since corporate farming has almost totally destroyed family farming, the methods used to raise animals have taken on a more factory and much less humane approach. In the raising of chickens thousands of birds are crowded together, there habit of scratching creates much dust for them to breath. Corporate farming has also created a narrowing of the gene pool of birds and a massive increase in the use of chemical medicines, medicated feeds and who knows what base for feeds. You can almost bet chickens are fed to chickens.

So a legitimate question might be is the solution to the problem the creation of questionable vaccines or should we look at corporate farming methods and even question the need for meat in the human diet.

"The SARS "pandemic" eventually faded away, but not without leaving a deep impression. A high pitched media campaign had convinced the world it was facing a great threat when in reality SARS turned out to be a comparably minor disease with 8.500 infected world wide and around 812 deaths. Compare that to CDC figures of 36.000 flu related deaths yearly in the U.S. alone. Or compare it with the mayhem of more than 100.000 U.S. deaths from the damaging effects of pharmaceutical drugs in the same time span."

"The researchers, from the influenza branch of the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, will mate H5N1 and human flu viruses in a process known as reassortment. Viable offspring will be tested in animals thought to be good surrogates for humans, to see if the viruses can infect, can be transmitted easily from infected animals to healthy ones and to note the severity of disease each provokes. In other words, the CDC researchers will be deliberately engineering viruses of pandemic potential. It's high-risk but crucial work, the influenza community insists."

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[elehhhhna]

1. Who cares? We're all dead from Hantavirus, anyway!

Remember that one? BOO!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

2. You are spread disinformation. Hanta virus never expected to be pandemic.

[crowshadow]

7. Reason was to question the drug pushers.

My concern is if we as humans have created a situation that encourages such a pandemic shouldn't we do more that just create a vaccine. If there is a pandemic many will die even with the vaccine, so maybe we need to clean up or act a little and stop letting profit be the sole motivator.

[peacetalksforall]

4. Using this flu to gain a military foothold means their think tankers

could not manufacture their own pandemic safely, for the same military foothold.

They know their populace - they will believe in the government to an excess and at their peril.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

3. The threat of Avian flu pandemic is real and severe though not immediate

How the government responds will be worth watching. Some responses are called for, but others may be power grabs (use of military, for example).

It does not help to call this real threat a hoax, because if you lull people into complacency, some of them may die. However, some of the responses may be hoax-like or worse.

Ignorance is the most violent element in society.

[pitohui]

5. that wasn't bird flu

yr chicklets getting weak legs, that was a vitamin deficiency

i never experienced it w. chickens, but i did w. baby ducks, some added niacin got them back on track

u.s. dept. of agriculture would actually like the small chicken owner to go away, because they have a v. aggressive (& admittedly excellent) program for controlling avian flu, newcastle's disease, etc. by depopulation but it's harder to track down & depopulate the small chicken holder in a given area

they do feel that small poultry holders are a problem, & they blamed the last huge outbreak of newcastle's which caused the de-population of the poultry in los angeles county, to the tune of millions of dollars, to be caused by fighting cocks brought into the country illegally

true or not, i don't know, but avian flu hysteria won't help the small farmer

there was legislation proposed this yr that if you breed even one chick, you need to be registered & inspected w. usda, now w. katrina disaster i don't know what happened w. this legislation, i opposed it but who is even going to bother to delve into the issues when all they are hearing is bird flu bird flu bird flu?

i did ask my senators to fight this bill but clearly now they are in no position to expend any political "points" on anything except the effort to get louisiana back into habitable form

i think we should be encouraging more ppl to have small holdings of poultry for knowledge & pleasure & a food resource...not less

bird flu means your little red hen, a traditional companion to humans & provider of eggs for millennia, may become illegal if you are not properly licensed

[Trillo]

6. There's no MONEY (capitalized purposefully), or only very little

money in selling more Vitamin C and suggesting citizens work less to rest more. If people work less, where will they get the money to pay for high-tech solutions provided by the elites?

For sure, one aim of propaganda appears to be to create more stress, and I've read plenty over the years that suggests stress decreases natural immunity.

'The system' in many ways seems insane. I suspect that encouraging the use of baby formula instead of breast milk was one of the first instances of a greed attack that worked against people's immune systems.