????? is outlawing contraception next on the agenda? Griswold vs CT

[bobbieinok]

this is a decision that said laws banning the dissemination of contraceptive devices or information are unconstitutional....Planned Parenthood challenged CT ban on contraceptive devices + info in the 60s

so why was Roberts asked about his views on this case? why did Brownback ask Meiers about this in his meeting with her (his statement on NPR)??

[wryter2000]

1. In a word

Yes.

These people are anti-sex. They're not anti-abortion.

[I Have A Dream]

2. They've just all lost their freaking minds! We've entered the...

Twilight Zone! What has happened to our lovely country?

[triguy46]

3. the fundies believe that contraception = abortion. So it...

makes perfect sense to them...

[WritingIsMyReligion]

4. Yeah, because

"Every Sperm is Sacred."

Give me a fucking break, neo-cons.

[triguy46]

7. which is why 'self gratification' is the vilest of sins!!!!

[WritingIsMyReligion]

9. Oh, I know!

Don't hurt those pore sperm--go out and murder a real human, instead!

:eyes::eyes:

Is EVERY fundie thought an ass-backwards one?

Wait...wait...don't tell me. I think I know the answer....

Bastards.

:argh:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

5. It's one of Santorum's pet peeves.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

11. Aye, because

he likes to fuck his women bareback...

Fucking misogynist.

[cally]

6. Griswold was the precursor to Roe

and more recently, the repeal of anti-sodomy laws. My recollection is a one state banned a married woman from getting birth control. The SC ruled under the privacy protection that she has the right to bc. Roe followed the same reasoning. Many years later, the SC followed the same reasoning for the repeal of the anti-sodomy laws which allowed police to arrest two adult men having consensual sex in their own home.

If a SC justice supports Griswold then he/she would probably support the later rulings.

[bobbieinok]

10. thank you for this info.......this makes sense

[cally]

21. I gain so much from other DUers incredible knowledge

it's nice to return the favor. :hi:

[Hobarticus]

8. This just popped up, here in Iowa...

Apparently there was some archiac law in a small town that made selling contraceptives illegal. The city council didn't even know it was there until some fundamentalist joker wrote in demanding that the city police enforce the law.

So what'd they do? Quietly tossed the law out the next day. At least local politicians ain't stupid.

The SC can do what they want. Local ordinances will bypass anything they have to say, or Congress will shut them down. This kind of thing is just freakish.

[Kenroy]

12. They ask about Griswold

because Roe v. Wade and Lawrence & Garner v. Texas both derive from the privacy right established in Griswold.

[DemBones DemBones]

13. If you want the real answer,

read the posts by cally and Kenroy (#6 and #12, IIRC.)

[bobbieinok]

17. see #10 and thanks to all for the info...I had not known the connection

[noamnety]

14. That's the agenda, yes

That was obvious from Bush's choices for the FDA's committee on women's reproductive health - a bunch of doctors who oppose birth control.

[HockeyMom]

18. Teh extreme relgious,

not only oppose the "chemical abortants", i.e, the Pill, IUD, but all the barrier methods, condoms, diaphram, etc., also. Roberts and Brownbeck (Opus Dei) are Catholics, which if they STRICTLY follow the Catholic Church teachings, ALL methods are birth control are banned. Even the so called Natural Familly Planning (Rythmn) is only mean to to be used in marriage to SPACE your children, not to limit the number of them.

Scray stuff if these people are going to legislate their RELGION on everybody else.

[loyalsister]

20. Thus, it is not about abortion

If the agenda was truly abortion, they would be looking for practical solutions that really reduce them.
Emergency contraception and increasing the availability of all contraception is the starting point.
They just want to control women.

[dogday]

15. I would think if they can overturn roe vs wade

that would be the next step.

[cornermouse]

16. Sure.

They're against a new women's cancer vaccine for the same reason. Although its not in the written text, it was stated while they were airing the report this morning, that the abstinence only movement oppose development and use of this vaccine.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/06/health/main917436.shtml

) The first major study of an experimental vaccine to prevent cervical cancer found it was 100 percent effective in the short term at blocking the disease and lesions likely to turn cancerous, the drugmaker Merck & Co. said Thursday. Its shares rose nearly 6 percent.

Gardasil, a genetically engineered vaccine, blocks infection with two of the 100-plus types of human papilloma virus, HPV 16 and 18. The two sexually transmitted viruses together cause about 70 percent of cervical cancers.

Cervical cancer kills about 300,000 women every year (video) worldwide. Virtually, it's the most common sexually transmitted virus,reports CBS News correspondent Elizabeth Kaledin.

[sallyseven]

19. If the only true birth control were

available like abstinence or cutting the pecker off. What do you think would happen. All the fundies would be walking around in a serious state of anxiety, frothing at the mouth. They won't admit how they talk out of both sides of their mouth and their ass too.