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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:12 AM
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Bush @ 37% approval, but please explain why 79% of Repugs
still think he's doing a good job. Is this blind loyalty, are they too weak to admit they were wrong, or just plain stupidity ?



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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:13 AM
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1. Answers
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Maybe
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:44 PM
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31. Remember, 62% of Repugs think Sadam Husein planned 9/11....
Saw that on a survey 2 weeks prior to the election and ....KNEW.... we were sunk. 62% of those people are that stupid or ignorant.

That explains it all. However, bet even the repug numbers will continue to drop.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:13 AM
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2. A healthy mix of what you suggest among them, I'd imagine. n/t
PB
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:13 AM
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3. Because he's opposed to gay marriage
Period.
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Dees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:13 AM
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4. That's why they are dinasaurs......n/t
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:13 AM
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5. If they admit he's a failure, they must admit they are failures too
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:16 AM
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10. Exactly.
They have hitched their wagons to this fake Texan and idolize him like they would the second coming. If * is a failure, then they were wrong about him, but that can't be because he is sent by GAWD to be president, so therefore * is NOT a failure so stop saying that!
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Atlas Mugged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:20 AM
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14. That fake Texan crap drives me insane!
I was particularly pissed when, during Hurrican Katrina, newscasters kept using the word "folks" instead of "people". Bush has polluted the word "folks".
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:49 AM
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25. I think you have the answer. By admitting that Bush is the
biggest travesty to ever happen to our country, they have to admit that they were complicit in making it happen.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:14 AM
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6. All of the above. nt
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:14 AM
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7. There are really only five people in the country...
who approve of Bush. They just keep calling them over and over again.
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:22 AM
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17. LOL n/t
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:15 AM
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8. Because being a Republican these days is defined by loyalty to *
Those people on the right who don't like Bush anymore have probably started calling themselves independents, among whom Bush has only a 29% approval rating. When you chase all the people who have lost faith in Bush out of the Republican party, you're left with a bunch of Bush supporters.
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:23 AM
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19. That sounds like the most plausibe answer...Thx....n/t
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:15 AM
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9. I'm more curious to find out what happened to "Bush Country"
If his approval is only at 37% and 79% of those that do approve of him in that poll are are Republicans.....

That's not alot of Republicans....
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:22 AM
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16. That's exactly what I was thinking!
If 79% of Republicans still support him, but only 37% of the public at large do, then that makes the Republicans a very small number of the populace. This makes Nov. '04 look really funny, doesn't it?
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:43 AM
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23. Great catch guys...super extrapolation. ...n/t
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:34 AM
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22. exactly what I was thinking.
I was trying to wrap my brain around those numbers----

came up with nothing.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:30 PM
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32. the numbers are like this
the poll is of 808 adults

39% - 315 Good Job
61% - 493 Bad Job


The Poll does not tell you How many Republicans vere in the sample but lets suppose it was a 40-40-20 sample

40 percent Republicans = 323 overall and 79% of that number is 255 republicans

255 of 808 is about 32%

the poll is problematic in that the presidential sample is typically over 1,000. the second problem is that you don't really know the party breakdown

TO the point about how this is skewed in comparison to the laxt election:

1) We do not klnow if these are likely voter opr not.

@) Bush has clearly lost alot of support across the board.

3) Remembeber you still have to look at how independent split in Ohio,

I tracked state polls up until the last moment across the country. the rolling average of the last ten polls in Ohio had a dead heat with a point or so difference.. AS I tracked the rolling average. Buish didd infact nudge ahead at the end but it was still a dead heat.

My method of rolling average actually forecast every state correctly. Largely becuse I only used likely voter polls.

The problem in OH is that

-the Church crowd votes always
-so do the unios..the problem is that union memebers ae not as nearly lockstep as they once were
-THe Dems every so slight problem is that they do not heve the infrastructure to get unlikely voters to the polls to ballnace out the zealots. All we have is Pro-Kerryist and anti-bushites.

We have to find a way to get those who don't vote to the polls and I think that means ww have to be For things that the uninterested can get there hands around.

Now the $100 billion question is what would motivate the uninterested?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:19 AM
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11. A desperate attempt to save face.
So they don't have to stand in their shower and sing, "What kind of fool am I?"
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:19 AM
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12. The republican party has lost most of it's moderates to independents
or even the democrats. It is now almost exclusively an extreme right wing party.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:20 AM
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13. IMO core Bush supporter
1. religious right who are trying to keep him politically viable until he stacks supreme court/institutes christianity in government, and therefore just refuse to admit what they really think about Bush's disasterous policies, would support anything.

2. culture clash haters who would rather America go down in flames than admit the libs, dems, gays, women, athiests whatever actually have a point.

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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:21 AM
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15. Because republicans are just as likely to be single issue thinkers
There are a bunch of republicans that relate to Bush's claim of supporting Christian family values. He hasn't done anything to lose that constituency

He hasn't in anyway harmed the profit interests of republican members of the ownership society either.

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:22 AM
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18. One must always remember

that at least 50 percent of the population has an IQ of 100 or less, by definition.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:24 AM
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20. God guns and gays.
Simple principle, happens to work.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:25 AM
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21. It's cult mentality
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LiberalEconomist Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:44 AM
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24. grade school math
79 percent of X = 37 percent?

Answer: 47 percent. Well, mein volk, they will still say that the country is split evenly, since 47% of the populus calls itself Republican.
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GaDemo Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:50 AM
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26. Can you say
Cool aid drinkers::spray:
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GaDemo Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:51 AM
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27. dup post
Edited on Fri Oct-07-05 11:52 AM by GaDemo
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 01:40 PM
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33. You may need to redo your formula. Here's the breakdown
from CBS...

Approve
All 37%
Reps. 79%
Dems. 14%
Inds. 29%

All 37% were not Republicans...
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rainidame Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:56 AM
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28. Nothing better out there?
I live in a heavily Repub State, so I know repubs I otherwise like, . . .so far they still support the pres, which drives me crazy yes, but the question is why, right?

Well upon listening to them I notice two outstanding things, they keep hedging his (gwb's) failures and lies with something akin to "well you don't have anything better to offer." So I get the feeling it is somewhat, the devil you know attitude.

Secondly, they seem to just be angry and are more than happy that someone somewhere is getting the crud beaten out them on behalf of the american people. Its weird cuz these same people won't spank their children for lying, cheating, or stealing; but they are completely okay with the tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi's caught in our offensives, and think it is okay to torture someone to get information which will likely be useless, false, or outdated. They just love spectating violence and feeling righteous about it.

It's pretty scary, no doubt.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 03:47 PM
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34. Hi rainidame!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 11:58 AM
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29. bad always sticks together nt
nt
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 12:35 PM
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30. D nial
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-07-05 04:08 PM
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35. they thought nixon was doing a bang up job...
right up until he flew out of town on a chopper :shrug:
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