Now on C-SPAN2...Dems with spines!

[deadparrot]

Watch while you can. :D

[FreedomAngel82]

1. What's going on??

[deadparrot]

5. see this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2141000

[mmonk]

2. hush your mouth

Really?

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. yep

we might be watching history

:popcorn: and you might want to reach for the coffee too

[evlbstrd]

3. I see Jalal Talabani, the Iraqi president.

Has he taken over the Senate?

[deadparrot]

6. C-SPAN2, sorry...nt

[evlbstrd]

9. Oh, there it is. Thanks!

[yankeeinlouisiana]

4. House or Senate?

n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Senate they have yet to oome back for the quorum call

[deadparrot]

8. Senate. nt

[oregonindy]

11. Less Dems and more independents is what we need.

this current system of government really doesnt work the best. Its always us vs them, winner take all. I think a multi-party power sharing system would work better.

Whats happening to the republocrats today happened to the demopubulicans. Get angry, get active, get a message, get elected, Get powerful, get greedy, get in trouble, get voted out of office by someone who got angry. wash rinse repeat.

[gardenista]

14. So it sounds like you oughta visit "Less Democratic Underground", then

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. And you can certainly get the

constitutional amendment required parsed right?

Thought so

By the way welcome to DU... but the problem is Constitutional

The founding fathers did not want a system of factions (parties) and believed this system would avoid it... they were wrong obviously, but John Stuart Mill was late by seventy years too.

When and if that amendment happens it will happen only after a civil war, aka when a new constitution is written, call it a bad feeling on that one

[Der Blaue Engel]

16. Welcome to Democratic Underground

I believe Independent Underground is somewhere down the block. ;)

:hi:

[oregonindy]

22. my bad..

I thought this place was a free exchange of ideas and the term democratic underground was about general democracy and not exclusively the democratic party.

I be a good soldier massa and not step out of line no mo'

[WatchWhatISay]

26. Stick around oregonindy

We dont all feel THAT loyal to the party. I think most of us would choose democratic ideals over party loyalty and are often frustrated at dem squishiness

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. Stay around

we are for free exchange of ideas, mostly... some are not, but hey...

[Der Blaue Engel]

34. Slave jokes...clever n/t

[BeTheChange]

12. Okay, what am I supposed to be watching for and how long before it happens

nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. they have the Senate Well on the right upper corner, and

they are filling the time (been five + hours) with previeus programing

What you are looking for are the Dems coming back in and C-SPAN basically switching back to the Well and basically going back to procedure...

[deadparrot]

18. They haven't returned for the quorum call.

They have until 4:30AM to vote.

On defense spending. From the small shards of info I can gather from the thread in GD politics, Landrieu's pissed about not getting funds for NOLA, but no one's quite sure what's going on.

[Sydnie]

23. Is that the 50 billion or 50 million or what ever the number was

Additional defense spending for Iraq? Are the Dem's refusing to vote so that the bill dies?

Throw a late comer to the party a bone here, please. :)

[deadparrot]

25. I'm not 100% sure...

It flashes up on the screen every once in a while "30 hours of debate on defense spending scheduled to 4:30AM eastern."

I THINK it's the same bill, but I'm not 100%, but yes, there is a proposed $50B to be allocated to Iraq.

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. the only thing that worries me is the

ahem propaganda value for the Reich ... but I applaud them.

[villager]

13. did they find and reconstitute old DNA?

n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. I guess, this morning after the DLC's shot across the bow

I got convinced, they are readying DU.... and what is one thing we have been demanding? you said it, a set of brass ones and a spine.

[WiseButAngrySara]

29. Reading (not readying) DU? Hope so. The quorum is NOT about

Miers, its about defense spending, right? (I just turned it on...was watching U2 on Conan O'Brien, and I'm not used to watching C-Span, but I've been loving it recently! Thanks to DU)

[WiseButAngrySara]

20. I'm waiting too for answers. What's going on here? Senate Quorum

Call on Miers?

[deadparrot]

21. Defense spending bill.

Dems haven't returned. They've got until 4:30AM to vote.

Speculation: Landrieu's pissed about giving $50B to Iraq after the BS that went on for NOLA, but we don't know anything for sure at the moment.

[Sydnie]

24. Thank you! n/t

[sandnsea]

35. Why 4:30?

What happens if they don't vote by 4:30?

[deadparrot]

36. Well, there was 30 hours of debate scheduled to end at 4:30,

but they ended up postponing it until 8:15AM EST. I thought I caught something about"working through the night" to find a compromise.

[deadparrot]

30. more information, thanks to pirhana...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/10/06/national/w150831D41.DTL

[Sydnie]

31. They are motioning to hold it til the morning. n/t

[WiseButAngrySara]

32. Landrieu on NOW...

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. This is... a victory, procedural yes, but a victory