Pour a very stiff drink. Read this link. Then pack your canned goods.

[Atman]

Something Wicked This Way Comes
by Michael Alton Gottlieb

Thu Oct 6th, 2005 at 15:11:25 PDT

I've been doing some thinking. A dangerous thing on a good day; an embarrassing thing on a bad day. But, I've been thinking. Connecting the dots of snippets, sound bites and neo-con love letters. Reading between the lines of malapropism, insinuation and `in plain sight' subterfuge. I've been anxiously analyzing the pressure on my frontal lobe; the tin-foil lobe that lobotomists are always so eager to excise.

And through the thinking; a dangerous liaison of cynicism, paranoia and epiphany; I have reached a conclusion; inescapable, indivisible and intuitively certain.

Something wicked this way comes.

Three things have jumped out at me lately:
1. Tularemia at the DC March
2. Bush's Emergency Quarantine Plans
3. Libby's Love Letter to Miller

These are not the only things that course through my veins of suspicion and circuits of Cassandrian synapse. But they are the ones that speak to me in tongues of fire, fury and fear.

The something wicked galloping our way like a horseman of the apocalypse is a symptom or tactic, if you will, of a greater disease or strategy. Yes, I am talking in shadows, but the reason will become clear. Because, the greater accusation is so large and sinister even a bare whisper sounds hysterical. It's better to talk in signs, secret handshakes and smoke signals rather than loose lips. But in the end, my conclusion will be laid on the table for contemplation and perhaps ridicule. Call it cathartic rumination or crazy talk. But there is an incessant cranial itching; an exploding brain precursor and I must give vent to my premonition or blame myself later, after it is too late, for my reticent silence.

Let's begin with Libby's Ode to the Aspens.

Libby wants Miller to come back to life; to cover other stories for greater glories. And what are those stories?

<snip>

MUCH MUCH MORE at this link....if you can take it.

[Gabi Hayes]

1. Gulp....think I WILL have that drink

no school tomorrow

hence the Don Julio

[The Magistrate]

2. It Is True, Sir, That A Little Thinking Is A Dangerous Thing

This Gottlieb fellow illustrates the dangers of insufficiency on that line perfectly....

[mcctatas]

4. I agree...

someone is having some dangerous mis-fires in his synapses, perhaps lithium could help him.

[Gronk Groks]

109. Just because he may be a little paranoid does mean...

...that someone isn't out to get him/us.

Keep this one filed, just in case...

[NNN0LHI]

5. You were reading my mind, Sir n/t

[jim3775]

16. It must be tiring, being that paranoid

Putting so much work into a piece of writing that has no constructive purposes. All the researching and "piecing together" of "facts" only to hold up his theory that we are doomed. Not thinking about how they can change the situation just worry and gloom . The RW does it too, and we make fun of them. There is no reason to listen to doomsayers, it is a waste of time.

How about instead of taking a stiff drink and wallowing in depression, you learn about you local democratic politicians running in '06, find out which one supports your views and put your efforts into volunteering, fundraising and activism.

Edit: I meant to reply to the OP.

[Atman]

30. Uh, 'scuse me...

"How about instead of taking a stiff drink and wallowing in depression, you learn about you local democratic politicians running in '06, find out which one supports your views and put your efforts into volunteering, fundraising and activism."

Actually I do all those things, jim. In fact, I'm working a local election this month. Awfully presumptious of you, doncha think? Do you get nose bleeds up on that high horse?

Oh, and occasionally I post links on DU. And I don't drink. And I'm not depressed. Ssssssssssorry.

:eyes:

[Czolgosz]

81. Thanks for posting this.

[HappyMoonBat]

40. BWAH-HA-HAAAA!!!

Learn about your local Democratic pols? That's your solution to the evil that we're up against?

Friend, this goes beyond party politics. Or are you one of those people who thought the 2000 and 2002 and 2004 elections were legit?

[dchill]

49. So, I guess Orwell's "1984" has...

no constructive purpose, either. BushCo has plenty of time before the '06 elections to make those "elections" irrelevant. Warnings ARE constructive. Be warned!

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

59. "Doomsayers?" Where did Mr. Gottlieb...

...predict that we're doomed? I thought I read: "Something wicked this way comes." A little vague maybe, but not too hard to believe based on what we've seen of Bushco. They wield immense power, have virtually unlimited resources, and absolutely no conscience whatever. Their sole purpose is to expand and solidify their own hold on power, and they'll do anything, including not one but two stolen presidential elections, to do it. A stretch that they might have something large scale and particularly nasty in store for us as their pole numbers plummet and indictments begin to fall? I don't think so.

[crispini]

3. I don't feel good.

:scared:

[greyl]

6. I bet the CTers purged from kos are pissed. nt

[vonslagle]

7. I'm going to sing the Doom Song Now!

Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom Doom DOOMITY DOOM DOOMITY DOOM DOO DOO Doom.

[crispini]

9. LOL!

Ok, I feel better. :7

[Lilith Velkor]

62. That's the first thing I thought, too.

BTW, welcome to DU. :hi:

[newyawker99]

101. Hi vonslagle!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[vonslagle]

106. Hi all!

Thank you for the warm welcomes, and I'm glad you enjoyed my karaoke performance.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. they are on the ropes

and many of us have contended, they will not go peacefully into that good night... so this is not that far fetched, in fact it is somethng that anybody paying attention has comcluded...

We are truly at the end game and I too fear for the country

[hang a left]

15. I agree

What was so "far fetched" about that. It is nothing that hasn't been repeated hear on DU hundreds of times.

If all hell is going to break loose at 1600 Pennsylvania, do you think they are gonna just cede power? Maybe, if we get lucky.

[tx_dem41]

35. Just because its been "repeated hear [sic] on DU hundreds of times"...

doesn't mean it has a bit of credibility.

[tx_dem41]

36. Just because its been "repeated hear [sic] on DU hundreds of times"...

doesn't mean it has a bit of credibility.

[asjr]

18. They have already done so much evil to this country

and will get by with doing more. I've been waiting for too long for someone to rescue us and no one is there. No one seems to be able to touch them.

[GrantDem]

10. The really scary thing is...

it is so orwellian that it is unbelievable.

:scared:

[unrepuke]

21. If anyone, 6 years ago, would have told you all this would happen would

you have been able to believe it?

I couldn't. Not 10% of it.

Not 1%.



I didn't believe Orwell the first time I read him either.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. On December 12th of 2000 I turned to my husband and told him

this is going to be bad... as to how bad? shall we say it has been a nightmare that a sic fi writer like myself could not even sell as a plot. This is how imcredible this has been. On the plus side we might be leaving the twilight zone and the landing will be extremely bumpy

[hopeisaplace]

55. I had a similar experience in my house...

My dad was visiting during the 2000 debacle...Bush was "selected"...I said to my Dad - "mark my words there will be a war", I said "I'll guarantee it"...

he said, the usual nay sayer stuff..insulted me a few times..and I thought privately to myself,..man, I hope I'm wrong too. But I KNEW I wasn't. I just knew.

Well when the war in Iraq started..Dad called me up, and said..."remember when you said there was going to be a war under Bush"...I said "yup"..he said, "you were right"..*sigh I thought*

I was glad my Dad acknowledged and remembered my point...but it would have been nice to be wrong on this one.

However, today, when I continue to try and inform my family of what may be coming or what is going on..."I get that look again"..the look of :eyes: <----that look.

Will they ever learn, I'm rarely wrong, darn. :crazy:

[Ani Yun Wiya]

76. 12/12/00

Upon that decision I had three thoughts instantly.

1.The money will get funny in a hurry. (only took a quarter to sack the surplus)
2. War would occur in short order. (only took ten months.)
3. Forget free and fair elections in 04...

since things have gotten even more peculiar day after day after day I sort of think that we are in for one bitch of a day, and sometime quite soon.

[Ani Yun Wiya]

77. December 12, 2000

Upon that decision I had three thoughts instantly.

1.The money will get funny in a hurry. (only took a quarter to sack the surplus)
2. War would occur in short order. (only took ten months.)
3. Forget free and fair elections in 04...

since things have gotten even more peculiar day after day after day I sort of think that we are in for one bitch of a day, and sometime quite soon.

[BamaBecky]

82. I know THAT look well.....n/t

[fooj]

67. OMG! I did the SAME EXACT thing!

I was really shaken. Intuitively, I sensed that we were in deep trouble. I told him that this "appointment" was going to bring our country to its knees. I knew that we were in for the fight of our lives. Literally!

[nadinbrzezinski]

68. Take into account at the time

my husband was still active duty Navy.. I did not breath again until he finally retired.

[EFerrari]

80. I did the same a little later. Like on Christmas or so.

I told him, these are very scary people. We better get out our cans of spinach.

[Digit]

41. I CAN say I had a great forboding when * was up for election in 2000.

That was the first time in my life I ever turned political.
I frantically posted to forums although I had not found DU and not even sure if it was around then.
Call it what you will, I just had an odd KNOWING that this was HORRIBLE for our country. I knew it to the CORE of my being.

Sometimes it seems all so surreal and I will wake up from this nightmare. Then I realize this IS reality and those who are not paying attention, or who voted for this need a swift kick in the ass.
In grocery stores, drug stores, and gas stations, I go into tirades on what this misadministration is doing to our country.

Guess I might be seen as a crazy old lady to some, but it is the love of my country that makes me speak out....and I can't shut up.
I WON'T shut up.
Not as long as I have fingers to type or a breath to speak.

[DemExpat]

103. I join you Digit....my world turned upside down with a sense of dread

when I saw who was running for President for the Republican party.

Pure intuitive reaction, with images of everything going wrong, going evil.... and it has not changed in the least since.

DemEx

[hopeisaplace]

54. I know what you're saying cause...

can you imagine someone saying 5 years ago...that in 2005 you'd lose and entire American City and people would be left without water or rescue for 5 days by the government while the world watches the entire event unfold..

I still can't believe THIS HAS HAPPENED..but it has (Soooooo sad and scary)

[Just Me]

11. Worrying over the worst case scenario is a fucking waste of time.

Why would anyone CHOOSE to live that way? You don't have control over the future, only limited control within your environment.

Why spend any energy on such speculation or powerlessness?

You may as well spend your life in prison since it's more "predictable".

Seriously.

[No Exit]

58. I think so, too. If we live in fear, the neocons will have won. n/t

[buzzsaw_23]

12. Adding to the laundry list

of Bio-weapons chatter from the current criminals:
Security Increased Following Possible Plot Information

Oct. 6, 2005 —  The New York Police Department and FBI are investigating a "credible" tip that 19 operatives have been deployed to the city to place bombs in the subway, and security in the subways has been increased. Department of Homeland Security sources told ABC News they were very doubtful the threat information is credible, however

According to sources in intelligence, emergency services and police headquarters, the intelligence community developed information that the threat may have involved pharmacists from Iraq coming to New York for some kind of chemical attack targeting the subways.

Three insurgents, one or more of whom are pharmacists, were arrested during a raid by a U.S. military and intelligence community team, sources said, and one of those caught disclosed the threat. Because it slipped out during the arrest, the plot was deemed credible.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=1190231

a quote from Bob Dylan's Masked and Anonymous:
Here is President Mickey Rourke's address to the nation upon inheriting the debased office:


As you know, we have captured the cultural institutions of this country. The institutions that shape the souls of the young. The schools, the colleges, the movies, music, and the arts. They all belong to us now. At the moment, we are giving people a new identity, and erasing the collective memory. We are rewriting the history books. Nothing was more important to our President than bringing peace to this war torn country. Peace, a lasting peace, can only be achieved through strength. So, in my first act as new President, as the leader of the new government, this new regime, we will begin to deploy troops immediately to the southern regions, we will resume the bombing in the jungle. We will begin executing and enslaving prisoners... Remember this, life is a chess game, where all the pieces are the same color. Your self-discipline will be watched and judged.

We have learned a valuable lesson. Great nations do not fight small wars. We have seen the difference between winners and losers. Those who are victorious win first then go to war, while the defeated go to war first and then seek to win.

There will be no more stupidity. No more mistakes. It is a new day. God help you all.

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

108. Great quote

Great movie!

It really had a punch!

[Stand and Fight]

13. This ought to be an interesting thread to watch... n/t

[kestrel91316]

14. Excellent, well-written piece. I, too, sense something wicked coming.

Laugh at me if you will.

[linazelle]

19. LOL. Something wicked is already HERE...in the White House no less. nt

[FreedomAngel82]

42. Fitzgerald is our hope now

:(

[Sunkiss BlueStar]

17. You know what I dont see them as American

Why would a Religious Zealot want to live in a Free Country?:shrug:

You can prepare mentally and physically for the shit that's about to hit the U.S. and its citizens. Just keep in mind that these mofo's are watching our steps. More DUers will make it out of this alive, I just feel it.

:thumbsup:

THUMBS UP

[buzzsaw_23]

20. And of course there is good money to be made

in pandemics, bio-terror etc. be they real or imagined.
Like the fireman starting the fires to stay in business.


In other words, what we are dealing with is a process of  militarization of  the civilian budget. Civilian social sector budgets are now being transferred to the Department of Defense. The money for a public health program is controlled by the Department of Defense, under the rules of DoD procurement.  

<snip>

Almost $3.1 billion of the money would be used to stockpile the antiviral drug oseltamivir (Tamiflu), and the rest would go for global flu surveillance, development of vaccines, and state and local preparedness, according to a Reuters report. The government currently has enough oseltamivir to treat a few million people, with a goal of acquiring enough to treat 20 million"

<snip>

Multibillion Financial Bonanza for the BioTech Conglomerates

The threat of the avian flu pandemic will result in multibillion dollar earnings for the pharmaceutical and biotech industry. 

In this regard, a number of major pharmaceutical companies including GlaxoSmithKline, Sanofi-Aventis, California based Chiron Corp, BioCryst Pharmaceuticals Inc, Novavax  and Wave Biotech,  Swiss pharmaceutical giant Roche Holding, have positioned themselves in the procurement of vaccines in case of an avian 'flu outbreak. Maryland-based biotechnology company MedImmune which produces "an inhaled flu vaccine" has also positioned itself to develop a vaccine against the H5N1 avian flu.
(Although it has no expertise in the avian flu virus, one of the major actors in the vaccine business, on contract to the Pentagon, is Bioport, a company which is part owned by the Carlyle Group, which is closely linked to the Bush Cabinet with Bush Senior on its board of directors.)

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20051004&articleId=1041

[Lex]

22. We've been doomed since SCOTUS agreed to hear Bush v. Gore

I can tell you exactly where I was when I heard, despite all logic, that the US Supreme Court would stick their hand in Florida's Supreme Court decision to recount.

At that precise moment, I felt many things that had been put into place over the years by Bush I, Rummy, Cheney, etc. were clicking into place.

Not sure what their final plan is, but it can't be good for us.

[KoKo]

23. Does this Kos Poster have some credibility with writing other Diaries?

I know we can all work ourselves up into a frenzy over what goes on out there with the Bush Crime Family...I've been guilty of that myself..but for them to chance another Terror Attack on a massive scale would mean that folks would feel he hadn't kept us safe...and it was his Katrina reaction disaster that started his polls down further after Cindy Sheehan punctured his balloon.

So, what would the Bushie Neo-Cons get out of another "Homeland" (how I hate that word) Disaster?

I can see him invading both Iran and Syria before they try something here again. BUT....do I think that they are so incompetent that someone else might not try something here...YES.

As far as them taking over cities to quarentine us...It's not like they have enough troops to do much since all are split between Iraq and the Gulf Coast. I can't see how they could find enough troops to keep a major city's population from getting out if they want to. There probably aren't even enough local police given that he's cut funding for Police and Firefighters to man exit points if people need to leave. There are always by ways and back roads.

They were trying to scare the hell out of us last year with all the flu deaths from the lack of vaccine. They control us by trying to make us afraid...but people can't stay afraid for as long as they hope. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all the time..as the old saying goes. My 2 Cents view, anyway.

[FreedomAngel82]

46. They've done it before

So why would they not do it again if they could and they needed the power?

[nadinbrzezinski]

72. Koko, I'll play devil's advocate

yes, yes they have the troops. They are not US Troops though... can you say... I don't know... Mercenaries? Oh sorry we avoid that term now, we prefer contractor... has a far less omminous sound to it.

[KoKo]

95. You have a point there. And I live in a state where Blackwater resides...

:scared: Still, the Bushies seem to be the "Gang who Can't Shoot Straight." A lot of bluff and bravado but they can't seem to get their act together to run anything efficiently.

I hope it doesn't come to this...I just don't like that they are trying to frighten people even more with threats again. They've moved on from "duct tape and color codes."

[nadinbrzezinski]

111. the plan is in place and that should not paralyze us

but it is in place, we are forwearned, and that should not paralyze anybody

[Atman]

24. You must consider what is at stake for them. And the tax cuts.

Tax cuts?

Tax cuts? WTF does THAT have to do with anything?

Then ask yourself, why on earth would any president who supposedly cares about what is happening in/to his country, NOT want to take a little bit back from those who can so obviously afford it in order to help staunch the hemmoraging resulting from Katrina, Rita, and the economy in general? He not only steadfastly refuses to consider it, he wants EVEN MORE for his richest 1%.

Then consider, if this Gottlieb guy's "instinct" is correct, where is YOUR survival money coming from? Do you have a mattress-full of greenbacks, or will you plan on stopping at the ATM before heading for the hills? LOL!

These guys know what's coming, and the people who will wind up on top, or so they hope, are them with the money. LOTS of money, because it is going to be a while before their new society is built, up and running.

Research, you neysayers. I don't want this scenerio to be real any more than you do, but you have to ask WHY. And look into the writings of the Dominionists and neocons. They openly call for severe pain. Years of severe pain are an inevitable by-product of massive societal change, and they openly acknowledge it.

But that kind of pain can be significantly diminished when you have a couple billion in cash with you behind your compound walls. You'll be able to ride it out while the masses claw at your gates.

They envision this massive societal shift as the only way to start over and set things "right." And they plan on being ready for it.

Scoff if you will. No skin off my ass. I'm not staying up all night worrying about it, because when -- when -- they do what they're going to do, we'll be powerless to do much anyway.

WE SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING NOW.

[FizzFuzz]

104. great Idea-- "Something"

like what, specifically?

Focusing on the doom makes me feel less able to do anything, personally speaking.

I think all of us here at DU ARE doing something, whatever we can do in accordance with our individual situations.

If you have another, more focused plan, please, tell us what to do.

[Catherine Vincent]

25. kick

[jim3775]

26. I think its funny that the opinion here switches between

"Bush is stupid and incompetent, they cant do anything right!" and "bush is an evil mastermind, their secret plans will KILL US ALL!!!!11".

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. I will clarify

Personally Bush is a puppet, fear the pupet masters... so no he is not the mastermind, by far...

Now the mastermind, I call him by his real tittle, President Chenney. Now there are some things that have to be said... bush is having lots of fun playing with his toys (US Troops) and his personality makes him actually relish casualties... which makes him an evil puppet, but a puppet..

[FreedomAngel82]

47. Yes

I believe Bush is highly involved in everything but he doesn't make the plans. Those have been laid out for years.

[mirandapriestly]

66. oooh....chills... nt

[CoffeeCat]

75. Yes, Junior wasn't even a PNAC signator...

...that speaks volumes to me.

There are major players (neocons) who needed a friendly little lap dog to charm the people. They found that in W.

I remember seeing the "Frontline" special "The Choice" that detailed the political careers of Bush and Kerry.

They showed George Schultz discussing how he called W to his home--to discuss the possibility of W running for pResident. Obviously, Schultz was sizing W up and determining if he had what it takes.

It was surreal, watching a stalwart grand pooh-bah like Schultz discuss how "interested" and "smart" Junior was. You could just tell that Schultz was struggling to validate this complete buffoon.

The people behind all of this are masterminds. It's no big secret--for God's sakes. PNAC has a Website that spells out their plan for world domination.

Someday, they'll all laugh at us. They'll say, "You guys were right all along, but we just kept using Rush Limbaugh and other hatemongers to destroy you and paint a pretty picture of us. Our Web site spelled out our evil plan--and STILL we got away with it!"

I don't live my life in fear. However, I do live in reality. Anyone who can't see that the PNAC/neocon agenda is alive and well--is not facing reality.

[converted_democrat]

90. Yea, what you said......

-I don't live my life in fear. However, I do live in reality. Anyone who can't see that the PNAC/neocon agenda is alive and well--is not facing reality.-

I could not have put it better myself.

[titoresque]

28. I dont think there was a "switch"

Bush is an ignorant ass, but I think most people here can see that he is just a puppet. This thing, whatever it is, is far bigger than Bush, Cheney,Condi,Rove etc.

[Donailin]

52. excellent point.

unless you're of the mindset that their incompetence isnt incompetence at all, but deliberate neglect in order to hasten our dependence on the gummint

[nadinbrzezinski]

73. not dependence

chaos, they need chaos to fulfill the plan... all of this is planned chaos, but bush is not the one in charge, just the front man

[Lancer]

79. Stupid and incompetent, yes

and to avoid mixing our pronouns, "he can't do anything right." But there are several evil masterminds, none of whom is *, and sadly they are doing a lot that is very effective, but certainly not right.

I have found myself using very stilted prose lately in describing the administration. It's a more challenging mental exercise than saying %$#@&*()&^%#!})(*^%$#@&*(!!!!! all the time, which is what I FEEL like saying all the time.

[shraby]

31. Anyone read the Odessa Files?

Could the neocons be an extension of Hitler's SS that escaped from Germany at the end of the war?

[Atman]

34. There are real, direct links to the Nazi party through the Bush family.

It's not conspiracy theory, hysteria, disrespect for holocaust victims, or anything of the sort. It is verifiabe, researchable historic fact that Prescott Bush helped fund the Nazi war machine.

Later, the Bush family was involved in Eugenics, until they were stopped once again.

Who will stop them this time?

[Swamp Rat]

38. AND, the Eugenics movement began here in the USA.

Read Edwin Black's "War Against the Weak."

[FreedomAngel82]

48. Yep

Bush's grandfather was a Nazi. His whole family are traitors. Research Samuel P. Bush.

[AntiFascist]

107. Rove's ancestors were also Nazis, is there a connection? nt

[The Minus World]

65. Certainly not those

who prefer to dismiss evidence of such a blueprint altogether. History is in the hands of the cynical, I'm afraid.

Eugenics and population reduction methods are valid topics of discussion in most philosophical circles. These are concepts not foreign to the greater interests; the manufacturers of institutional reality.

Bill Bennett's words seem to have caused disturbance, since these are arguments not commonly made from public soapboxes. However, such ideas are undoubtedly entertained by those whose affairs concern governance and social control on the macroscale. For example, the PNAC's advocacy of weapons which may target certain genotypes.

[Ouabache]

70. I saw the movie

does that count? Good movie to rent if you can find it.

[nashbridges]

32. Like a bunch of commited people

Killing another bunch of people?

It's already been done.

[titoresque]

33. Another sad and scary thing about this is

that so many people, good people, that might have a fighting chance will step in line and be lead to their deaths because it's
"uncool" to be so "paranoid" it's "a waste of time" it's "tinfoil" blah, blah, blah. I'm sad for these people.

Thanks for this post. :)

[FreedomAngel82]

37. I'm afraid the poster is right

Something was very strange and alarming about Scooter's letter about that. We all know they would love to do that and probably hit NYC again. And then the "threat" that happened earlier in NYC. They'll start in liberal cities. It's very scary indeed to think about. They're trying to kill us all. I've never been so scared of my own government before. :\

[Digit]

45. On the plus side, think of all the wonderful golf courses they could build

for the rich people once all the flim flam are out of the way.

Now, watch this drive!
Fore!

:sarcasm:

[Extend a Hand]

39. pick your poison

terrorists attacks?
pandemics?
fascist government?

he forgot the one I think is most likely...
global depression due to a peak oil induced energy crisis

or on second thought maybe terrorist attacks, pandemics, and a fascism are the neocons plan for softening the blow of peak oil for the powers that be.

It really does seem like an awful lot of evil is converging right now.




:scared: :scared:

edited for spelling

[NVMojo]

43. yep, no answers to 9-11, anthrax scare, Osama, and on and on ...

with more to come. What arrogant fuckers.

[Neshanic]

44. Was this the site that censored 9-11 "crackpot" theories?

[Marie26]

50. Well-written & scary

I think that piece is exactly right. What I really like is that the author doesn't rely just on specific facts or dates, but an intuitive sense that something isn't right. I've felt the same way - a sense of dread, or foreboding. And it's more than just the letter, or the flu, or any one piece. It's the feeling you get right before a big thunderstorm - something big is about to break. You can rationalize it away, but it's pretty hard to shake.

[Donailin]

51. I just spent over an hour at kos reading the comments on the diary

and I've come away feeling bi-polar. yes i can imagine the worst and live in fear. but no, I cannot believe it would come to pass and the reasons are many. one, there would be no way to institute martial law, we don't have the manpower. 1.25 million could not do it in a country of 300 million that is AT WAR in two countries. two: if there was martial law, no one would be spending money to keep the service industry -- which is a huge portion of our economy -- going. three: at least 55 percent of the country is against this administration, but more like 65 percent and there is simply no way we the people would let it happen, nor would our elected officials, at least not in the blue states where the majority of the highest tax payers live.

it's economically impossible. plus, they are starting to eat their own.

have faith people, fear makes you weak and helpless. Outrage and righteousness make you strong and proactive. we need to do what we do best.

[BeHereNow]

56. Shut down the grid-

That is how they will do it.
Imagine that scenario for a minute.
No water
No electricity
No gas
No phones

No they can not possibly install nation wide military
patrols- but they CAN paralyze everyone by
simply flipping a switch on the grid.
How many people do you know who are prepared for that?

BHN

[hopeisaplace]

60. funny you say this

..this is exactly what I said to my hubby about 3 days ago..we were watching the New Orleans sad mess and I had said exactly what you typed...no water, no sewage, no electricity..we're shut down.

We had a brief taste of it with the black-out that hit the eastern grid back in 2003...It was chaos without electricity..no atm machines, gas pumps wouldn't work, etc...it was scary and it only lasted 1 day for us..so I can't imagine, nor never want to, living in the hell that some are faced with.

[BeHereNow]

61. WELCOME TO DU!

I happen to think the various "black-outs" are test runs for this
very thing.
They know they can't possibly deploy troops nation wide-
but shutting down the grid?
No problem.
They own and control EVERYTHING we are dependent
on for our daily survival.
Talk about crowd control...
Very neocon of them- "creative destruction" they call it.
They are counting on us turning on each other in
our desperation to survive-
They don't need force,
Just control of resources and distribution which they
can shut down at any time.

BHN

[nadinbrzezinski]

71. Welcome to DU

and the grid is not the only tool.

Peoople discount the fact taht they don't need the military to control major cities. Black Water will be used, as well as the rest of their ilk. They are loyal to the mighty dollar, not the state or the Constitution.

Oh and soon after I am betting they will PRIVATIZE the US Miltiary

[blindpig]

97. As long as they keep the TVs working they might pull it off.

A comotose citizenry is their best asset.

[Birthmark]

53. That was a remarkable read.

Paranoia is sooo entertaining...providing it's someone else's paranoia. :)

[fearnobush]

63. Twas a great read. Paranoia feelings are a waste of time.

For me anyway. I loved the link on RX-84, reminds me of the Xfiles movie where FEMA was to execute the take over of government. Based on the state of FEMA today - well, It does a better job of chaos then the chaos it suppose to resond to - but then again, maybe it's real goal and resources were held back for the upcoming end days?

[nadinbrzezinski]

69. No it is easier to steal under chaos conditions

and to carry your true agenda, what is sad is.. FEMA was created by Carter for disaster relief, but these fuckers have seen its potential for other things

[No Exit]

57. So the neocon terrorists might be cooking up more terror for us?

No one is invincible. And there's many a slip twixt the cup and the lip. One of these days they're gonna fall. What a sweet day it will be.

[The Minus World]

64. Condemnation of Critical Thought

Thank you for an interesting analysis.

Please do not be deterred by those who prefer pithy criticism of an author's style rather than a substantive discussion of ideas.

With regards to this administration's meticulous placement of "chessmen", it is common folly to notice each move as it happens, and consider each advance a coincidence of misfortune.

The critical mind is a mind constantly discovering causal patterns and, however chimerical or illusory these patterns may be at times, our political environment has conditioned us to be hyper-vigilant. Quite so, out of necessity.

Perhaps some here should spend more time connecting dots, rather than drawing lines in the sand at where civil discourse may start and end.

In the meantime, let only history judge these insights.

[BigBearJohn]

74. well fucking said!

[donkeyotay]

100. well said, Minus

...We think we have them on the ropes as their failures mount and their embarrassments pile up.

But Bush's `major' speech today should dispel any notions of the crumbling Neo-con. It was a re-declaration of war. It was about `staying the course' through hell and high water. Bush's speech was a dismissal of dissent and a refusal to listen to the will of the people.

There is more to come if we don't fully recognize the evil we are facing. The neocons have simultaneously claimed its a realpolitik world of torture and it's a Father Knows Best world of trust your government. I don't think there's anything paranoid about waking up to the discrepancies.

[Czolgosz]

78. Does this remind anyone else of Pale Fire?

[chat_noir]

83. adding fuel to the fire

I wasn't familiar with REX-84, so I Googled it. Scary stuff. Here's an excerpt from one article:

Now, FEMA is on stand by once again. Due to the terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon, and the ensuing "war on terror" known as Operation Enduring Freedom, the president can declare martial law under the guise of "national security."

The crisis, as the government now see it, is civil unrest. For generations, the government was concerned with nuclear war, but the violent and disruptive demonstrations that surrounded the Vietnam War era prompted President Nixon to change the direction of emergency powers from war time to times of domestic unrest. Diana Raynolds, program director of the Edward R. Murrow Center, summed up the dangers of FEMA today and the public reaction to martial law in a drug crisis: "It was James Madison's worst nightmare that a righteous faction would someday be strong enough to sweep away the Constitutional restraints designed by the framers to prevent the tyranny of centralized power, excessive privilege, an arbitrary governmental authority over the individual. These restraints, the balancing and checking of powers among branches and layers of government, and the civil guarantees, would be the first casualties in a drug-induced national security state with Reagan's Civil Emergency Preparedness unleashed. Nevertheless, there would be those who would welcome NSC (National Security Council) into the drug fray, believing that increasing state police powers to emergency levels is the only way left to fight American's enemy within. In the short run, a national security state would probably be a relief to those whose personal security and quality of life has been diminished by drugs or drug related crime. And, as the general public watches the progression of institutional chaos and social decay, they too may be willing to pay the ultimate price, one drug free America for 200 years of democracy."

The first targets in any FEMA emergency would be Hispanics and Blacks. The FEMA orders call for them to be rounded up and detained. Tax protesters, demonstrators against government military intervention outside U.S. borders, and people who maintain weapons in their homes are also targets. Operation Trojan Horse is a program designed to learn the identity of potential opponents to martial law. The program lures potential protesters into public forums, conducted by a "hero" of the people who advocates survival training. The list of names gathered at such meetings and rallies are computerized and then targeted in case of an emergency.

The most shining example of America to the world has been its peaceful transition of government from one administration to another. Despite crises of great magnitude, the United States has maintained its freedom and liberty. This nation now stands on the threshold of rule by non-elected people asserting non-Constitutional powers. Even Congress cannot review a Martial Law action until six months after it has been declared. For the first time in American history, the reigns of government would not be transferred from one elected element to another, but the Constitution, itself, can be suspended. The scenarios established to trigger FEMA into action are generally found in the society today: economic collapse, civil unrest, drug problems, terrorist attacks, and protests against American intervention in a foreign country. All these premises exist, it could only be a matter of time in which one of these triggers the entire emergency necessary to bring FEMA into action, and then it may be too late, because under the FEMA plan, there is no contingency by which Constitutional power is restored.

There are now over 600 prison camps* in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty.

http://uweb.txstate.edu/~lf14/conspire/rex84.html



*find your neighborhood prison camp here:

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm

[bklyncowgirl]

84. There's something else at work here.

We've all noticed the subtle change in at least some parts of the news media. Bush is being criticized where before he was protected.

Could it be that some parts of the oligarchy have decided that it is time to rein in the neocons?

Business loves profit. They loved the tax cuts but business--or at least some sectors of the business community--also needs stability to thrive. The business sectors that have not profited from the neocons raid on the treasury may be working against them.

Could it be that the masters of the universe have decided that it was fun while it lasted but now it's time to slap junior on the behind and get things back to some sort of balance?

[cassiepriam]

85. the neocons are capable of doing anything to preserve their power..

anything.

[liberal N proud]

86. Not only capable but willing to do anything!

[opihimoimoi]

89. In their quest to riches...they are prone to excesses, one to avoid is

killing the Golden Nation...dats us...

[Atman]

91. The "golden nation" is dispensable. We're tapped out.

Time to move on to the untapped resources of the remaining "developing nations." Through the economic thuggery of the World Bank, we've got a lock on the resources of most of them.

Our capitalist economy is nothing but a giant Ponzi scheme. You simply cannot continue to increase stock value every quarter. At some point, there are no more people to buy your product or your stock. There are no more corners to cut. So, in order to generate the profits you've promised those who've bought into your scheme, you begin cutting your costs to the bone in ways which destabilize the house of cards. Like, you know, maybe by getting rid of US, the workers, the final expense. You find cheaper ones. Globalization is the key, to get into those places we've held under our thumb for so long, and starte developing THEM, getting THEM to buy into our scheme. That is what is happening.

To the neocons, there is no "country," only a market. This one is dead. They'll move on.

[blindpig]

105. you nailed that one

We're just not profitable enough for them anymore. The workforce that produces profitable value added goods is shrinking, shrinking. As the buying power of the masses shrinks as well they have less and less use for us. Asia is where it's at, cheap labor and expanding markets.

As per capitalism, why can people not understand this? And that's not even taking into account the environmental consequences of such madness. I think it's because people crave stability, which is the natural state of humankind, to believe that we can live as we have. And of course our nemesis, Hubris.

[Mutley]

87. I am inclined to believe that this guy is being a bit paranoid...

but I think what he says ought to at least be considered. Remember, many of us believe in MIHOP, or at least LIHOP which is hardly any better. Before 9/11, if someone had told you that the government was planning that major terrorist attack in order to keep the sheeple fearful and loyal, almost all of us would have said "that's crazy", right? I would've. But it happened, and whether they MIHOP or LIHOP doesn't make much difference.

From 2000 until last month with the Katrina debacle, I let myself be surprised and shocked every time Bushco pulled some stunt. I thought to myself, "how could they go this far?" every time. Finally, after Katrina, I decided I would never again underestimate the lengths to which the neo-cons would go to stay in power. Is it so far fetched that their ultimate goal is world domination? I don't think it is.

[Atman]

92. Is world domination so far fetched?

Excellent point.

Why wasn't is so far-fetched for all those guys in our history books, eh? Have we become so arrogant as a people that we think we've become immune to machinations of evil men, which have resurfaced with stunning regularity throughout world history? I never got the memo that all the "evil doers" in blue suits had been eradicated for eternity.

[qanda]

88. Don't forget the death of all those microbiologists

[Search Party]

93. The role of the U.S. Military is mentioned nowhere in all of this

Does one honestly think they would just stand by and allow this?

Detention camps? I don't think so.

[Bushwick Bill]

94. True...check out this Stan Goff piece on Martial Law

He basically says they are setting up shop for it, but it will fail.

"Department of Defense, Washington, D.C., June 2005 - Strategy for Homeland Defense and Civil Support. From the Executive Summary:

We now confront an enemy who will attempt to engage us not only far from US shores, but also at home. Terrorists will seek to employ asymmetric means to penetrate our defenses and exploit the openness of our society to their advantage. By attacking our citizens, our economic institutions, our physical infrastructure, and our social fabric, they seek to destroy American democracy. We dare not underestimate the devastation that terrorists seek to bring to Americans at home.

To defeat 21st Century threats, we must think and act innovatively. Our adversaries consider US territory an integral part of a global theater of combat. We must therefore have a strategy that applies to the domestic context the key principles that are driving the transformation of US power projection and joint expeditionary warfare.

Each section of this ten-year strategy outline for the Department of Defense is headed by an italicized quote from Reich Fuehrer Bush. This is what must be borne in mind as part of any analysis of this document, which is scaring the bejesus out of a lot of civil libertarians. Because it is - and I will describe exactly how as we go along - it is a roadmap to martial law.

But it is also an outline of a strategy of abject failure. It is a strategy so ambitious, so insanely grandiose, and so interdependently complicated in any attempt to put it into practice, that time, expense, and mind-boggling complexity at every scale will render the reality a ragged effigy of its own feverish ideal.

<snip>

The reality of Full Spectrum Dominance is that it is actually Full Spectrum Delusion. The United States military cannot even secure a military victory in Iraq, and this mad document from the Pentagon is talking about establishing martial law over 290 million armed people over a 9,631,418 square kilometer land mass. This is their plan? They are going to accomplish it with whom exactly? Do they honestly believe that American soldiers will impose this kind of control on US populations? Moreover, do they believe that in a real mass casualty emergency, soldiers will stay quietly buttoned down in their posts while a radiological cloud leaking from a destroyed reactor wafts gently toward their families?"
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/070805_global_battlefield.shtml

[Atman]

96. Excellent addendum

Thank you for posting that.

See, all you head-in-the-sanders? Addressing and acknowledging a potential scenerio is not part and parcel to accepting its inevitability.

[nadinbrzezinski]

110. No not US Soldiers

Black Water, DynCorp and teh rest of the gang...

[ArkDem]

98. Magnificent stupidity.

[MadJohnShaft]

99. I hope that doesn't become the prevailing attitude

it's better to convert any gloom and doom feelings - into action against 'The Man' now

[electron_blue]

102. I totally agree