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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:32 PM
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Huffington> : At Least Three High Level Bush Personnel Indicted
Let’s walk through the pieces that would have to fall into place for Karl Rove to have committed a crime when he revealed Plame’s identity to Matt Cooper.

First, and most obviously, Valerie Plame had to be a covert agent when Rove exposed her to Cooper. It’s not obvious that she was. The law has a specific definition of covert agent that she might not fit -- an overseas posting in the last five years, for example. But it’s hard to believe the prosecutor didn’t begin the grand jury session with a CIA witness certifying that Plame was a covert agent. If the prosecutor couldn’t establish that, why bother moving on to the next witness?

Second, Rove had to know she was a covert agent. Cooper’s article refers to Plame as “a CIA official.” Most CIA officials are not covert agents.

Third, Rove had to know that the CIA was taking “affirmative measures” to hide her identity. Doesn’t seem like the kind of thing a political operative would or should know.

Fourth, Rove had to be “authorized” to have classified information about covert agents or at least this one covert agent. Doesn’t seem like the kind of security clearance a political operative would or should have.

I’ll be surprised if all four of those elements of the crime line up perfectly for a Rove indictment. Surprised, not shocked. There is one very good reason to think they might. It is buried in one of the handful of federal court opinions that have come down in the last year ordering Matt Cooper and Judy Miller to testify or go to jail.

In February, Circuit Judge David Tatel joined his colleagues’ order to Cooper and Miller despite his own, very lonely finding that indeed there is a federal privilege for reporters that can shield them from being compelled to testify to grand juries and give up sources. He based his finding on Rule 501 of the Federal Rules of Evidence, which authorizes federal courts to develop new privileges “in the light of reason and experience.” Tatel actually found that reason and experience “support recognition of a privilege for reporters’ confidential sources.” But Tatel still ordered Cooper and Miller to testify because he found that the privilege had to give way to “the gravity of the suspected crime.”

Judge Tatel’s opinion has eight blank pages in the middle of it where he discusses the secret information the prosecutor has supplied only to the judges to convince them that the testimony he is demanding is worth sending reporters to jail to get. The gravity of the suspected crime is presumably very well developed in those redacted pages. Later, Tatel refers to “aving carefully scrutinized voluminous classified filings.”

Some of us have theorized that the prosecutor may have given up the leak case in favor of a perjury case, but Tatel still refers to it simply as a case “which involves the alleged exposure of a covert agent.” Tatel wrote a 41-page opinion in which he seemed eager to make new law -- a federal reporters’ shield law -- but in the end, he couldn’t bring himself to do it in this particular case. In his final paragraph, he says he “might have” let Cooper and Miller off the hook “ere the leak at issue in this case less harmful to national security.”

Tatel’s colleagues are at least as impressed with the prosecutor’s secret filings as he is. One simply said “Special Counsel’s showing decides the case.”

All the judges who have seen the prosecutor’s secret evidence firmly believe he is pursuing a very serious crime, and they have done everything they can to help him get an indictment.
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:35 PM
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1. ON HuffPo that statement is framed as a PREDICTION not as any inside
..info.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:37 PM
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2. And can someone explain
to me....why is it Novak is not held accountable? Why no days in jail for HIM? And he is at least in collusion with whoever outed her...right? Or am I crazy? Damn, since the first election, ahem fraud, I feel as though I have slipped through the looking glass...
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:40 PM
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5. Simple, he sang his ass off. n/t
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:44 PM
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6. damn, this whole thing
just pisses me off. Sorry, not a real deep reply...but it just does. And no doubt, you are right.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:45 PM
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8. Since he didn't end up in jail, one might assume he testified
And as far as accountability, the indictments have not come down yet, so who knows? :shrug:

But the crime would be the leaking of classified info. Who ever told Novak would be in trouble with that one, but not so sure what he did was criminal. He would have to have known Plame was covert at the time he published for it to be criminal wouldn't he?
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:50 PM
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9. yep, i think this
whole thing will hinge on the "covert" thing. As usual, they will slime out.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:37 PM
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3. Unless that's the actual title of the Huffington post
you should change the header. You know how rumors get started...
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:39 PM
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4. Federal prosecutors have accepted an offer Rove
WASHINGTON - Federal prosecutors have accepted an offer from presidential adviser Karl Rove to give 11th hour testimony in the case of a
CIA officer's leaked identity but have warned they cannot guarantee he won't be indicted, according to people directly familiar with the investigation.

The U.S. attorney's manual requires prosecutors not to bring witnesses before a grand jury if there is a possibility of future criminal charges unless they are notified in advance that their grand jury testimony can be used against them in a later indictment.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20051006/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_rove_2


Rove, Frist, Delay, the only thing that can get better is Cheney being indicted....!
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:44 PM
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7. Arianna, from your mouth to God's ear!
I so hope you are absolutely right.

We all need some good news.
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