Dear DU Pollyanna: on Miers

[wellstone_democrat]

Maybe its my view from Texas and my complete lack of optimism about the Bush* group but all the "hope for the best!" "wait and see!" "maybe she's a moderate and has fooled them!" talk on DU this morning is sweet but let's get a grip shall we?

These people always know EXACTLY who they are dealing with in these decisions. They are people who have been watched and tried over decades for loyalty. You do not have to know anything beyond the fact that Bush* believes she loves him more than the law and more than the nation. You also have to remember that Rove vets every decision.

She is exactly what he and his people want: she is conservative in their mold. She will see the world through "pro executive" "pro religion" and "pro corporate" lenses. It is what she has done her whole working adult life. She has already been involved with underhanded business with Bush* and has vocally spoken of her dedication to HIM. Not to the country. Not to the Constitution. She is loyal to the man and to the culture that nurtured them both which is Texas big business, big religion, big politics.

She's not a "stealth" candidate. She's exactly what he wants---she'll take care of him (as will Roberts, btw). They don't make mistakes in THIS White House on this sort of issue.

[mtnester]

1. I agree...she will do EXACTLY what they tell her to do.

As soon as a case is over (as in hearing closed, arguments presented), Gonzales will actually be writing the assent, and she will double time over to that office to pick it up.

On edit:

There is no WAY this administration would appoint anything other than a suck up..especially a woman. Take a good look at the ass kissing that is so prevalent from Condoleeza...this woman will be EXACTLY the same.

[DemsUnited]

2. Agree. Meirs is integral part of the corruption and cronyism that Dems

say they are against. This is not good.

[asjr]

3. Totally agree! This administration has become master of

pulling the wool over our eyes. Why should we believe them now?

[texpatriot2004]

4. Yeah, I'm in Texas too and I NEVER TRUST THE SON OF A

BUSH or anyone who works with them. Especially those that help him lose his National Gaurd paperwork and say that he's the "most brilliant man she's ever known."

OH NO! She's totally devoted to him.

[Radio_Lady]

7. Seems to be in the pattern of Condi Rice -- unmarried, no children,

pro-Bush, nothing else for her to do except get to the office at 4:30 AM. At least Sandra Day O'C. had some other things in her life.

What do we get from her? Just another woman on the bench.

Shit. I'm disgusted. But then I would have found stuff with ANYONE that Bush appointed. This takes the cake.

Soft-shoe another patsy into the Supreme Court.

I'm outta here.

[seabeyond]

5. i guess my problem is, so... what do you expect. this is what the

president gets to do. this is why we didnt want him to win. i dont expect anything out of bush, nor who he picks, lets look at the past. a single good choice? no. not this time either. this is why i didnt want asshole to re elect

people pissed at the dem is what bothers me. they didnt vote for bush, i am pretty sure

[Mr_Spock]

10. You're being pragmatic!

There will be no capitulation here. We all know what's going to happen in the future - didn't you get your degree in clairvoyance yet?

[seabeyond]

22. i was called pragmatic by my father the other day

like it is a bad thing. wink

[Mr_Spock]

25. LOL - it's becoming my favorite word lately...

Nobody on either side seems to understand the meaning of the word. Bush is down - let's be pragmatic and get some mileage out of this. Most are probably wondering why anyone would want to do that!! :rofl:

[seabeyond]

27. with you spock n/t

[cry baby]

6. Just like his M.O. to find someone that is good for HIM, not the US.

He just doesn't care about the country.

But will the conservatives that seem unhappy with her nomination vote against her? Will she be confirmed?

[cynatnite]

8. I'll still reserve judgment...

I'm not a judge a book by it's cover kind of person.

[Mr_Spock]

11. You must make snap decisions and stick to them!!

What kind of Democrat are you anyway!! :sarcasm:

[cynatnite]

18. wishy washy and spineless

:rofl:

[jsamuel]

12. Apparently she spearheaded a movement to get some lawyers to oppose pro-ch

pro-choice and go no-choice.

[cynatnite]

17. I thought it was to make the ABA go neutral on their abortion position...

Was it something else?

If not, that doesn't really tell me a lot at this point.

[wellstone_democrat]

9. I predict the conservatives will be back in line soon

They'll get back on the bus, guaranteed. They always do.

BTW, my colleague who was *horrified* a while ago (major Repub) is now happy. Someone told him something over lunch. He's now doing the "not my first choice but I hear good things about her. Church going. Reliable"

which translated means: "she goes to my wacky denomination's church which means she's "safe" on anti-abortion and someone I know says she's good on the military and business"

Its Texas, what can I say?

[Mr_Spock]

14. Hmmm, church going - a sure sign of instability

Well, at least the republican church goers anyway :D

[wellstone_democrat]

20. When this man says "church going"

in this part of Texas he means one and only one thing:
fundamentalist/literalist

this is a man who thinks that Presbyterians and Roman Catholics and all inbetween are NOT church goers. You will note that I specified that he had to have heard she was from the correct denomination to be reassured. He was very upset about Roberts for being Catholic until he heard what the wife does for volunteer work.

Church going in some areas is a very specific statement---like in West Texas....

[Mr_Spock]

24. Yeah, I think I caught the drift

I was aware what this means - that's why I said the "Republican" kind of church goer - which is the sort you describe. I personally think of them as evil.

[wellstone_democrat]

26. sorry, its that sort of day...

Around me, the "conservatives" (who are anything but in reality) are over their initial shock and starting to get "happier" with the nomination.

Sorry I jumped the gun

[nonconformist]

13. Thank you. nt

[Mr_Spock]

15. No, thank you!

:D

[LittleClarkie]

16. Rove vets every decision? What about Kerik, then

Not so good.

[wellstone_democrat]

21. and they thought they could force him through didn't they?

This woman is a very old member of the inner circle. They are not making a mistake here from their point of view.

[catmandu57]

19. You're doing a heckova job there mierie

Is something I never want to hear, but if they don't tell this idiot* NO, I'm afraid it's something I will.

[incapsulated]

23. She's a Bush Crony, and Robert's was a wolf in sheep's clothing

Anyone who will be surprised by what this court does in the future was hopelessly naive to begin with.

(edit for sp)

[mountebank]

28. Maybe she's simply the best pick they could muster right now....

Bush and Co. are not infinitely powerful and perhaps they decided that they simply *could not* put up the candidate that they really would want - that doing so would submarine whatever hopes they might still have for a 2nd term agenda and the Republican Party in the future. Therefore, they had to make compromises and Miers was selected based on a trade-off between what they wanted and what they thought they could get through. According them infinite powers of deviousness is understandable, but it probably doesn't reflect the reality. When the curtain falls (usually 20+ years after the Presidency ends), the picture is usually the same. A bunch of chumps who were vastly more stupid and incompetent and *normal* (I mean that as in without superhuman powers of strategy) than they were ever thought to be.