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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:24 AM
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Someone can be SC Justice without ever having been a judge
we've established that, but do they have to have been a lawyer? Exactly what are the required qualifications?
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:26 AM
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1. you do not have to be a lawyer
but it's tough getting confirmed without it.

i'm pretty sure it's happened at least once, probably in the early days of the country when not everyone went to law school....
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:31 AM
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3. according to this link, there's never been a non-lawyer even nominated
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:28 AM
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2. There are no qualifications
I am not even sure there is an age requirement but may be wrong about that.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:41 AM
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8. Sure there are.
You have to be a pal of junior's. And willing to display your loyalty when called upon.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:41 AM
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9. So someone could be in the right place at the right time
know the right people and end up making literal life and death decisions, guiding the country's legal system, and affecting millions of lives without a single qualification to do so?

Yet that same person would have to study at an approved school and hold a state-issued license to cut hair. :eyes:
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:44 AM
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10. Well, yeah
But let's be honest. Other than some age requirements there are no qualifications for any of the three branches of government.

None.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:34 AM
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4. Getting tougher to get elected to a PTA chapter than to get on SCOTUS
Just have a record of kissing BUSHCO ass, or hauling it outta some fire, and you're in ;)
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:37 AM
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5. Clarence Thomas had very little judicial experience
Most of his legal experience came in running the EEOC under Reagan.
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:37 AM
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6. Without an American Bar Association rating of "well qualified", nominees
to ANY federal court have had a rad time of it.

See http://www.abanet.org/scfedjud/%20supreme%20ct%20noms%20process1104.doc
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:38 AM
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7. Many great justices had no prior judicial experience, BUT they nearly all
had outstanding academic achievement and recognition or they served in a high elected office or they were highly placed in the Attorney General's office. I cannot think of a prior nominee who had less relevant experience than Ms. Miers.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:46 AM
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11. nearly all isn't all
And that's the problem with attacking her qualifications

Her achievements are not as stellar as some, but respectable enough. She appears to have had a fine academic record, earning an appointment as federal judge's clerk at a time when few women were given that position. She was at top litigator at a major firm, was elected to the City Council and has served in the WH counsel's office.

Compared to Lewis Powell: ABA President, private practice, Richmond School Board, or Arthur Goldberg: AFL-CIO lawyer/Secretary of Labor; Abe Fortas: private practice, LBJ lawyer...hard to draw that much of a distinction.

onenote
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:53 AM
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12. When I was referring to academic achievements, I meant professorial tenure
at a respected law school (like Yale Law School professor Abe Fortas) more so than merely graduating from a middle tier Texas regional law school with good grades.

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:01 PM
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13. goldberg, powell, and being attorney general
Arthur Goldberg: no professorial tenure, attended Northwestern Law

Lewis Powell: no professorial tenure: attended Washington and Lee

And coming back to an earlier statement: I don't regard being named Attorney General (or Deputy Attorney General) as particular evidence of any exemplary qualfication to be on the SCOTUS. I don't think Ed Meese or John Mitchell were particularly scholarly or competent guys and would've screamed bloody murder if they had been nominated to the SCOTUS -- not because of their resume, but because of their position on the issues. And while I loved Bobby Kennedy with all my heart, he was appointed AG for one reason -- but I would've supported him for the SCT despite his resume.

onenote
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 01:50 PM
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15. Actually, you're mistaken. Judge Goldberg was a law professor at John
Marshall Law School. We do agree about Powell, he was weak as dishwater as a nominee, but even his candidacy was stronger than Miers's.

By the way, I'm not necessarily opposed to Miers (I haven't finished looking into her record), but whether or not she is someone to oppose, she's on the ass end of the spectrum as far as her qualifications go.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 12:28 PM
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14. kick n/t
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 01:52 PM
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16. Equate Arabian Horses to Homeland Security!
eom
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