Feingold making me laugh "The Roach Motel Plan"

[liveoaktx]

getting all the terrorists to come to Iraq to kill them, so that they won't all come to NY, etc.

heh.

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Don't you know we're fighting them over there so we don't have to

fight them over here??? This is no laughing matter.

Get a brian, you moran!!

[CBHagman]

2. For those who aren't watching C-SPAN...

...liveoaktx is referring to an address (made Friday, apparently) by Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) on the subject of Democrats and security.

Feingold is kicking ass and taking names. He took apart the whole dangerous notion that people can believe that all the terrorists are just going to flow to Iraq, conveniently be killed by the U.S. and coalition troops, thus saving us from further attacks. Anyone with half a brain knows that war in Iraq isn't making anybody safer -- not in London, not in Bali, not in Basra.

[liveoaktx]

3. I also stopped to pay more attention when he talked about that list of

nations on the White House website of Al Qaida countries shortly after the Iraq war... and the one country not on the list... was.... Iraq.

[teknomanzer]

4. I keep telling people...

terrorism is a tactic. Those who would choose this method are not they type that would march out into the field of battle to face the most powerful and technologically advanced military in the world. They want soft undefended targets... so they can terrorize people... hence the word terrorism. If they were looking to fight american troops then they would be classified as soldiers, or guerrila fighters but certainly not terrorists.

I even heard some talking head or politician call terrorism an ideology. These people are so f-ing stupid. I just want to slap them all and instruct them to open up a dictionary - the use of language in this country has deteriorated since the Pretzeldunce took office. Its all the damn Orwellian newspeak coming from Rove... words are starting to lose their real meaning... confusion is setting in... what will become of a nation where all speech is detached from reality?

[CBHagman]

8. I know. People often buy the macho act.

Bush, Cheney, and Co. have parlayed a couple of cheap shots, some Frank Luntz talking points, and completely illogical stances into two terms in the White House. Pollster Frank Luntz instructed the GOP to mention 9/11 as having changed everything and then to claim that fighting terrorists over in Iraq will mean not fighting them here.

The other thing is that it's pretty clear that the current administration is not only manipulative and illogical, it's incompetent. They get their way, after a fashion, in policy terms, but they don't actually succeed at anything. If they had succeeded, Bush would be taking a victory lap through the Middle East, basking in the applause of people enjoying democracy. Not only is that impossible, but his handlers can't even let him near U.S. citizens who don't strictly toe his party line. That's not leadership, that's being out of touch.

[pacalo]

10. Thanks so much, CB!

I'm reading this two hours after the fact, so I appreciate the info. I'm loving this; I hope it will be available in the C-Span archives.

[marmar]

5. I like him ... there's potential there...

He's the only one of the presumed Dem presidential candidates with anything resembling cajones. (Edwards has shone a few of late). I wish we could fastforward two years - it should be interesting.

[pansypoo53219]

6. gore picked the wrong jew

if he has picked feingold, georgie would be in texass now.

[marmar]

7. LOL

And we didn't know how wrong he was. He didn't seem like this much of a DINO during the 2000 Presidential Race.

[hopein08]

9. Perfectly put!!!! I should have thought of that one...

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