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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 06:26 PM
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Should drilling be allowed in the Alaska Wildlife Refuge? 91% say yes
Edited on Sun Oct-02-05 06:28 PM by Rowdyboy
at least in the Alaska Star where Freepers have been hard at work (only about 300 votes cast total)

Do you agree? http://alaskastar.com/
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 06:28 PM
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1. ./
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 06:30 PM
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2. Unequivocally No
It will take 10 years for the first oil to flow.

The oil will be sold to Asia.

We can't drill our way out of this problem.

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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 06:33 PM
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3. 10 Years from when they start, we can save 5 cents per gallon.
What a fantastic idea.. UGH

Thats if the Oil companies dont sell the Oil to China, like they do to most Alaska oil today.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 06:41 PM
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8. I believe we are being marketed to, nothing less
This administration thinks that we are stupid enough to buy the idea that drilling in ANWAR will benefit anyone other than a handful of their cronies. The majority of the American public are (apparently) persuaded that our fossil fuel shortage is just a temporary one and can be reversed by riddling the world with bore holes.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 06:55 PM
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11. I agree Unequivocally NO! And to those in Alaska who favor it
because it brings them MONEY I still say NO! The money should be brought in through other means like eco-tourism for example. There has to be some other way. We need to preserve Alaska.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 06:34 PM
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4. Oh, 91 percent of Alaskans say yes. That's different.
I doubt, I hope that is not a reflection of the opinion of the other 49.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 06:36 PM
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6. Its not just Alaskans.....They're freeping it like crazy
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 06:44 PM
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10. Then I now know what I must DU! n/t
...never give up I say!:mad:
drilling that area for two months more of good gas prices for the Hummers is madness.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 06:35 PM
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5. Take the money it will cost
and develop alternatives.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 06:37 PM
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7. Screw the tundra! I need to gas up my Tundra!
Alaskans want to live off the land--especially the money generated by drilling into the tundra. Bunch of lazy bums!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 06:42 PM
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9. I say 'yes' too.
Edited on Sun Oct-02-05 06:43 PM by HypnoToad
Maybe it sounds crazy.

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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 06:56 PM
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12. dumb, dumb, dumb
the
potential oil beneath the Arctic Refuge would do nothing to reduce our dependence
on Persian Gulf oil. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, there is only
six months worth of oil, which would not even become available for ten years.
America can achieve energy security with faster, cleaner and cheaper alternatives
that would save many times more oil than could ever come from drilling in the
Arctic Refuge or our other cherished public lands. The numbers speak for themselves.
Oil Reserves:
* 80 percent of world-proven oil reserves are controlled by OPEC member countries
* 3 percent of world proven oil reserves are controlled by the U.S.
U.S. Consumption:
* 25 percent of world petroleum is consumed by the U.S.
* 10 percent of world petroleum is consumed just by U.S. cars and light trucks
U.S. Imports:
* 13 percent of U.S. oil consumption imported from Persian Gulf countries
* 2.4 million barrels per day (mbd) of oil imported from the Middle East
* 0.6 mbd of oil imported from Iraq
Energy Efficiency vs. Arctic Oil:
* 0.18 mbd of average potential oil produced economically from the Arctic Refuge
* 2.0 mbd of oil saved from raising car fuel economy standards to 40 miles per gallon


Defenders of Wildlife
1101 14th St., NW, #1400
Washington, DC 20015
http://www.defenders.org
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Harry S Truman Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 07:00 PM
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13. Drill for oil
up Barabara Bush's ass.
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Robertwf Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 07:09 PM
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14. No way!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 07:09 PM
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15. I wionder who'll make the investment, given the little oil that's there.
Less than a year's worth, based on the current US consumption.
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 07:36 PM
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20. It probably won't even go to U.S. markets
It is more likely that ANWR oil, once it does hit the market, will likely be sold in markets in China and India rather than the U.S.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 07:10 PM
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16. Well, we've gone from 9% against to 17% against....Not bad at all
I know voting in these polls doesn't mean anything, but why not. It feels good.
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 07:13 PM
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17. It is easy to see why Alaskans would vote that way, here's why
I have travelled to Alaska. It goes without saying that it is a beautiful place in the late spring and summer. On the flip side in the fall to early spring Mother Nature holds a vice grip on the place. It takes a tough charecter to live up there year round. Good high paying jobs are hard to find and those that have them guard them.

Here is one reason why Alaskans want drilling in ANWAR, it goes beyond what jobs may be created. Alaskans recieve a check from the state every year from revenues the state brings in from petroleum operations. Do you know any other state that does that? Actually gives money to its citizens as opposed to collecting taxes? That is one thing they do not want to part with. Alaskans, native or otherwise, are smelling a bigger check every year.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 07:31 PM
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18. By the time the first ANWR oil actually flows--
1. Hybrid market penetration will be over 30% of new cars sold.

2. Biodiesel, clean burn (microprocessor managed) diesel, and even diesel hybrids - will be another big chunk of the market.

3. Electrics and "plug in hybrids" will be on the market-- "plug in hybrids" could be a significant fraction of hybrid and diesel hybrid sales.

4. Changes in "the way we live"

    * The urban areas, and the old (built in the post WW 1 era) inner suburbs (street car suburbs) will see a massive resurgence.

    * "Transit" - subway, light rail -- will be the in thing.


ANWR will be a bad joke.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 07:32 PM
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19. Grrr...
done and kick!
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 07:40 PM
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21. Down to 83% yes
:kick:
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