NO ties between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and al Qaeda. And that's FACT.

[LynnTheDem]

In the judgement of the JIC there is no recent evidence of Iraq complicity with international terrorism."
http://memoryhole.freedomunderground.org/downing/ods020308.pdf

"US scrambling to establish a link between Iraq and Al Aaida is so far frankly unconvincing."
http://memoryhole.freedomunderground.org/downing/ricketts020322.pdf

Jack Straw; "In addition, there has been no credible evidence to link Iraq with UBL and Al Qaida."
http://memoryhole.freedomunderground.org/downing/straw020325.pd

"To my knowledge, I have not seen any strong, hard evidence that links the two. (al Qaeda & Iraq)"
-Rumsfeld
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,10975887-1702,00.html

Sky News (London): "One question for you both. Do you believe that there is a link between Saddam Hussein, a direct link, and the men who attacked on September the 11th?"

Bush: "I can't make that claim.'
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030131-23.html

Bush: No evidence Saddam Hussein involved in Nine-Eleven attacks
http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1447698

Rice: U.S. Never Said Saddam Was Behind 9/11
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/983821/posts

Rumsfeld sees no link between Saddam Hussein, 9/11
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-09-16-rumsfeld-iraq-911_x.htm

Wolfowitz: Iraq Was Not Involved In 9-11 Terrorist Attacks, No Ties To Al-Qaeda
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4372.htm

Brent Scowcroft, one of the Republican Party’s most respected foreign policy advisors;

"Don't Attack Saddam. It would undermine our antiterror efforts. There is scant evidence to tie Saddam to terrorist organizations, and even less to the Sept. 11 attacks."
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002133

Allies Find No Links Between Iraq, Al Qaeda

"What I'm asked is if I've seen any evidence of that. (Iraq links to al Qaeda) And the answer is: I haven't.” -British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, who supports U.S. invasion & occupation of Iraq.
http://www.latimes.com/la-fg-noqaeda4nov04,0,4538810.story

British Intelligence agencies, MI6 and MI5

A dossier prepared by the two agencies “showed no discernible links between Iraq and al-Qaida,”
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=375403

Richard Kerr, a former deputy CIA director who lead an internal review of the CIA's prewar intelligence;

“the CIA has not found any proof of operational ties between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's regime.”
http://www.thenation.com/capitalgames/index.mhtml?pid=800

The White House’s own publication, A Decade of Defiance and Deception, makes no mention of Osama bin Laden or al Qaeda.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/sect5.html

The 2002 congressional joint intelligence committee’s report on the Sept. 11 attacks revealed that the Bush administration had no evidence to support its claim that Saddam’s government was supporting al-Qaeda.
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030723-064812-9491r

No proof links Iraq, al-Qaida, Powell says
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/ID/3909150

According to a "top secret British document", quoted by the BBC "there is nothing but enmity between Iraq and Al Qaeda." The BBC said the leak came from intelligence officials upset that their work was being used to justify war." (quoted in Daily News, New York, 6 February 2003).
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO303D.html

Iraq-al Qaeda links weak, say former Bush officials

Three former Bush administration officials who worked on intelligence and national security issues have told National Journal that the prewar evidence tying al Qaeda to Iraq was tenuous, exaggerated, and often at odds with the conclusions of key intelligence agencies.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0803/080803nj2.htm

Split at C.I.A. and F.B.I. On Iraqi Ties to Al Qaeda

"…analysts at the Central Intelligence Agency have complained that senior administration officials have exaggerated the significance of some intelligence reports about Iraq, particularly about its possible links to terrorism, in order to strengthen their political argument for war, government officials said."

and…

"At the Federal Bureau of Investigation, some investigators said they were baffled by the Bush administration's insistence on a solid link between Iraq and Osama bin Laden|s network. "We've been looking at this hard for more than a year and you know what, we just don't think it's there," a government official said."

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70D1EF83E5C0C718CDDAB0894DB404482

This is consistent with what they were saying back in October 2002.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A14056-2002Oct24

"There's absolutely no evidence that Iraq was supporting al Qaeda, ever."
-Richard Clarke, former terrorism chief under bush.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/19/60minutes/main607356.shtml

Iraq-al Qaeda ties have not been found

Bush administration hyped sketchy and false evidence to push for war
The Bush administration’s claim that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had ties to al Qaeda — one of the administration’s central arguments for a pre-emptive war — appears to have been based on even less solid intelligence than the administration’s claims that Iraq had hidden stocks of chemical and biological weapons.

Nearly a year after U.S. and British troops invaded Iraq, no evidence has turned up to verify allegations of Saddam’s links with al Qaeda, and several key parts of the administration’s case have either proved false or seem increasingly doubtful.

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/2004/03/04/news/nation/8101079.htm

Iraq and al Qaeda: What Evidence?
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=23816

bush's own hand-picked Republican weapons hunter ISG, Dr. David Kay;

David Kay was on the ground for months investigating the activities of Hussein's regime. He concluded "But we simply did not find any evidence of extensive links with Al Qaeda, or for that matter any real links at all."

He called a speech where Cheney made the claim there was a link, as being "evidence free."
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=23816

Israeli intelligence (the Moussad)

“According to Israeli intelligence, Palestinians are still not connected to the global terror network, and neither is Iraq.”
http://www.haaretz.com /

bush's second and final hand-picked Republican weapons hunter ISG, Dr. Charles Dueffler;

Report: No WMD stockpiles in Iraq, no capability since 1991, no evidence of ties to al Qaeda, no serious threat;
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/06/1096949583023.html?from=storylhs

OFFICIAL VERDICT: WHITE HOUSE MISLED WORLD OVER SADDAM-AL QAEDA TIES
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0617-03.htm

No evidence of Iraq-Al Qaeda ties: 9/11 commission
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/06/cheney.911

"CIA Review Finds No Evidence Saddam Had Ties to Islamic Terrorists"
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1005-01.htm

You and your rightwingnuts sure are managing to OUT-TERRORIST and OUT-SAVAGE a handful of Saudi terrorists & savages in your total ignorance (while the Kuwaiti-Pakistani 911 mastermind sits in a jail in Pakistan and we can't go get OBL although you "know where he is", because the "US respects sovereign nations").

[Alamom]

1. Thank you for the work involved to put all of this together.

:applause:

Excellent source of information for discussion outside DU.

[The Magistrate]

2. Indeed, Ma'am

Hussein and the jihadis were bitter enemies. People unaware that the secularist Ba'ath movement and the promotors of a restored Caliphite were at daggers drawn, and to the point that the latter often denounced the former as a tool of the kaffirim, really have no business commenting on the matter....

[The Doctor.]

7. I've tried too many times to explain that to the sheeple...

only to hear responses like;

"They ALL hate us, so what difference does it make?"
and,
"Well of course they would work together against us."

Then when I explain that we've done Osama's work for him by both removing a major obstacle to his dream of Hegemony and boosting recruitment to help him realize that dream, I get;

"Well at least Saddam is gone, we are fighting ALL the terrorists you know..."

:nuke: :dunce: :nuke:

Ignorance seems a good way to 'win' a debate I guess...
:shrug:

I take great solace knowing that scholars and learned academics will be the ones to painstakingly de-construct and accurately illustrate these events for future generations.
History will vindicate us, even though we already know the truth, it will take time before it is accepted as historical fact.

[ck4829]

3. However, I know of a terrorist group that has helped Al Qaeda and Hussein

Their symbol is an Elephant.

[Mr_Spock]

5. Tell me about it

The new symbol for fascism in the 21st century.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

4. Nicely done! Kicked and recommended.

[The Doctor.]

6. Whenever I need to load up my blunderbuss of facts...

This list is going right in.

Thank you for this excellent resource.
I only ever found maybe five of these links on my own, but even that was enough to get me kicked off of 'conservative' sites for using too many 'facts'.

They really hate being faced with reality.

Wait... did I miss something?

Who is in a Pakistani jail?

[Cocoa]

8. Cheney, "I never said that"

but of course, he did...

http://www.fair.org/activism/fox-commission.html

<snip>

O'Reilly did not air another portion of Cheney's interview in which he lied about a previous statement he had made. When host Gloria Borger mentioned that Cheney had previously described the meeting between 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta and Iraqi intelligence as "pretty well confirmed," Cheney interrupted: "No, I never said that... Absoutely not." But he had said just that, on NBC's Meet the Press (12/9/01): ''That's been pretty well confirmed that did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack.''

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

9. Kick

[Maraya1969]

10. OMG I saw NO, thought New Orleans and my eyeballs popped out

:rofl:

[ghostsofgiants]

11. Well, THAT'S a surprise

:eyes:

Haha.

[leftchick]

12. tell that to these two neo-freaks...

:eyes:

Bush to crank up message machine on dangers of Iraq withdrawal


<snip>

Bush aides have argued for months it is better to fight the "terrorists" like Al-Qaeda frontman Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, in Iraq, than on American streets after another devastating terror attack.

Critics, including last year's failed presidential candidate John Kerry, see the war in Iraq as a diversion from the real enemy -- Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden -- and dismiss the president's rationale as simplistic.

But for Bush, the US invasion, occupation and bid to introduce democracy in Iraq represents a central front of the "war on terror."

The administration is now bolstering that warning by fleshing out what they see as the perils in leaving before enough Iraqi troops can be trained to enforce security.

"If we quit now, we will abandon Iraq's democrats at the time of greatest need," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said in a major speech on Friday at Princeton University.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051002/wl_mideast_afp/usiraqbush_051002175023

[Just Me]

13. True. But, there are ties between the BushCO regime and Saddam.

:evilgrin:

There are also ties between the BushCO regime and the Taliban.

There are also ties between the BushCO regime and the bin Ladens.

:evilgrin:

[LynnTheDem]

14. And them's FACTS.

Facts the rest of the world well remembers, even if most Americans have decided to conveniently forget them.