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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 08:30 PM
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Poll question: Pulse Check: Al Gore for President - 2008
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 08:35 PM by Dunvegan
What's the current pulse on support for Al Gore for President in 2008 here among DU members?

(Edited to say: This poll question only assumes a limited scenaro: That the Democratic candidate in 2008 is Gore.)

And, illumination as to the reason for your choice would be appreciated. Thanks.)
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 08:32 PM
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1. If he wins the nomination
of course I would vote for Al Gore. But I won't support him in the primary....or in my case the caucus.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 08:38 PM
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6. It's all relative to me.
We're a looong way off from the 2008 campaign, but I'll definitely be there for Gore if he's the nominee.

As for the primary campaign, it's dependent on what the choices are -- and what positions they're taking. I will NOT be supporting any DLC-friendly candidates, and will be looking for real progressive, liberal, populist plans-o'-action.

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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:00 PM
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10. Iowa much?
You people and your early primary... I decry your disproportionate influence. I guess the rest of Ameerica doesn't matter as far as the talking heads are concerned..

MojoXN
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 07:28 AM
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21. Iowa?
You are assuming that Iowa will remain 1st. That may not happen.

You might also be assuming that Iowa chooses the nominee and the MSM sells it to the rest of the nation. That is not true. (The leader out of Iowa doesn't always win the nomination.)

I don't believe the process is the problem (well in a way I do, see below), the MSM is the problem. They are already saying Clinton will be our nominee and we are 3 1/2 years from the Iowa caucus.

I could debate whether or not Iowa should remain 1st but that has been done over and over again. Everyone has an opinion and a good argument. The DNC is debating it right now. We'll have to see what they decide.....although I have little trust in their judgement. The front loaded primaries in 2004 had a much more adverse affect on the process than Iowa's 1st in the nation status.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:54 PM
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41. He's my man.
Ever since 1992. (Before then, I wasn't particularly fond of him.)
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 08:34 PM
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2. If he runs, I'll be there for him.
But he has to *run* and not walk, or crawl. If Donna Brazile is on his staff, I reserve the right to change my mind.
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 05:21 AM
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22. I think that's impossible
Brazile betrayed both Gore and the Dem grassroots.
For her it was "just another race".
She didn't even care.
Gore, by the way, had similar problems with staffers in 1988.
Some of them admitted later that they let him down.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 08:34 PM
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3. Vote, work for, heavily donate to. nt
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 08:34 PM
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4. September is Nat'l Preparedness Month..!

Wasn't that just TOO ironic?

They'd already committed to that campaign, and so couldn't pull it after the debacle that was their Katrina lack-o'-preparedness.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 08:35 PM
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5. How about if I would PREFER another candidate but would vote for Gore?
How should I vote?
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 08:42 PM
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7. He won in 2000, He can win in 2008.
P.S. Kerry won in 2004, too. Don't think too hard. The Bush crimes aren't worth your brain cells.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 08:43 PM
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8. I'll probably be voting Green in 2008.
The current crop of wannabees are just more of the same - tho' I do think that Gore has moved to the progressive side of the spectrum and I might vote for him. Hillary, Kerry, Biden, etc - forget it.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:41 PM
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13. so then, are you here to hopefully hurt Democratic prospects in 08?
Just curious since you intend to vote Green and this is Democratic Underground.
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 05:30 AM
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23. I wonder about that too
What are all these Greens and Naderites are doing on Democratic Underground?
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:40 PM
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42. That worked great in 2000!
In all honesty, I am not really bothered by 3rd party supporters.
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 08:56 PM
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9. if he won the nomination, yes, if this is a primary - no. Feingold. nt.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:05 PM
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11. Wasn't he already elected?
:kick:
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:37 PM
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12. election yes...nomination no
I want an electable candidate
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 05:40 AM
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24. He was already elected
And remember Clinton, of all people, was LOSING to Bush in every poll
in 2000, except in one in Oct, taken by ABC and even that was within the margin of error and was taken only among registered voters.

And we know that the Bush-Gore polls were all wrong, since Gore had more voters than Bush.

But if Clinton , an incumbent president after 8 years of peace and prosperity did so poorly against Bush how can you blame Gore who was JUST vice president and got no credit for the economy?
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 10:38 AM
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27. yes, but that is not what we are discussing
In the 5 years since 2000, the MSM has successfully and unfairly painted Gore as a flake and a sore loser.

His electibility was at an alltime high in 2000 and he barely managed to scrape by..except that he didnt.

He's not even close now.



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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:44 PM
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14. Gore has discovered within himself
qualities which, I believe, are vital to successful leadership. He has gone into the wilderness and come back a stronger, better, man for the experience. I was never an Al Gore fan ... but my respect for him has grown tremendously over the past couple of years, and I must regard him anew.
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:45 PM
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15. Tanned, rested, ready? Charisma transplant?
Yeah, I'd vote for him. You might get some 2000 guilt votes, too.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:46 PM
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16. I prefer Clark, but if Gore got nominated, yep, I'd vote for him. n/t
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:06 PM
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17. He doesn't want the job.
He's said so repeatedly.
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 05:43 AM
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25. He never said that.
And you bet he would like to do the job more than anything else even if he wouldn't like to campaign -- which he hates for which I cannot blame him. Which normal person would like to do those insanse campaigns?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:30 PM
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18. If Gore actually is the nominee, I'll support him.
I think he could undo a lot of Sen. Clinton's strategy, but I have not heard him expressly state he wants the job.

He beat Bush the first time -- including in Florida -- and the Scalia-Thomas-rehnquist tilt on the Court stole it from him and gave it to the little freak in the White House now.

Gore could win again if he wanted to.
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 12:55 AM
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19. Just been wondering...
Edited on Sun Oct-02-05 12:56 AM by Dunvegan
...would a "Draft Gore" movement be worthwhile?

(Edited to say: Is there enough interest, and if so, could Gore be prevailed upon to take an interest?)
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 01:15 AM
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20. Al's actions to rescue critically ill people from New Orleans . . .
gave me a whole new respect for him as a person . . . as did the fact that he didn't seek publicity for his actions . . .

and anyone who has enough self-assurance to do a hot tub scene on SNL is okay in my book . . .
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 06:03 AM
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26. I would vote for him in a heartbeat. eom
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 10:42 AM
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28. Gore is the best Dem candidate for Prez in 2008. He would be the Dem's
"Southern Strategy."

Since 2000, Gore has returned to his populist roots and found his mojo. He has redeemed himself and is definitely a worthy choice for Dem Prez nominee for 2008. He would not only get my vote, he would get my $ and my volunteer time. He's the only one who would get that.

My second choice would be Feingold, but I don't think he has the right stuff to win the Dem nomination.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 10:54 AM
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29. In an "Okie" heartbeat
Edited on Mon Oct-03-05 10:55 AM by madokie
I read in a post here on DU a week or so ago about how Big Al took charge and rescued some of the less fortunate. No interviews, no photos just helping his fellow man. If Big Al would not have been preempted to the Presidency, we as a world would be much better for it.
I feel, in what I've read about his speeches throughout the years, the man genuinely loves his country. With his knowledge of so much and his capacity to learn it is a no-brainer.
AL GORE FOR PRESIDENT, hell Al Gore "will" be President.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 10:58 AM
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30. I wanted Gore over Clinton in the first place.
It's good, though, that he never made it. Now we have him available.
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 01:12 AM
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36. But if he had made it
no 9/11, no Iraq war, no NOLA shame, no record deficit, no Abu Ghraib
should I continue?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:00 AM
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31. ONLY if he's the nominee. I will work for Wes Clark during the primaries,
if he runs. Gore would be one of my least favorite candidates.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:04 AM
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32. As for myself
I like him better now that in 2000... I think since he's had his 'wilderness' time, he is much less smarmy and slick and much more passionate and balanced, IMHO.

Yet every single person I know here in small-town Texas (and, therefore, ALL former Democrats!) HATES him. My mother, who almost always votes Dem, thinks he is a total slimeball and has the same visceral reaction as she had to Phil Gramm.

:eyes:

Dunno what that's worth, just my two cents.

I would vote for him in a heart beat. In fact, he is probably my favorite potential candidate.
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:46 AM
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39. Texas doesn't matter. It would go Rep anyway.
BTW your mother, exuse me, has not evidence whatsoever but she sure has been brainwashed by some idiots in the press.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:22 PM
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40. No
I respectfully disagree. She doesn't really watch the M$M, and hates Faux.

She just doesn't like him PERSONALLY - his STYLE.

And my point wasn't about TEXANS but about people in general... I figure other people out there must also personally dislike our Al... he used to seem very polished, actor-like, cheesy, and smug. That was one of his problems in 2000, we all know.

I think, though, if people like my mom saw him speaking lately, they might see a different Al Gore and feel differently about him as a candidate.
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:30 AM
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43. I understand but that doesn't change the fact that Texas is irrelevant
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 05:37 AM by drummo
Whether she dislikes his policies or his style will not change a damn thing. She is a Texan therefore her vote will not make a difference.

The rules are the rules and the electoral college decides not he popular vote.

edit:BTW I like the fact that he is very polished. Your mother doesn't know what good behavior is. As for actor-like that's just plain stupid. Gore is a natural stiff who hates the spotlight, like it or not that's what is in his genes. He was a stiff as kid but your mother would probably accuse him of being a smug when he was 6 years old, right?
Cheesy -- it's hard to see how an "attack dog" can be cheesy but sure the press did not treat him like that. Whenever he said something negative about Bush they bashed him for being too agressive and negative.

And there are millions who personally dislike Bush, Clinton, Hillary, Kerry and who knows who else. Noone can make everyone satisfied and it's silly to argue which is better, Pepsi or Coke.

I for one thing can't stand Clinton's style and just hate Bush's style
but that's not the reason why I think they shouldn't have been presidents.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:04 AM
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44. were you listening? (figuratively, of course)
The point of my post was not about individual, Texan votes, but about how, if people I know who are 'moderate', to a man, don't like Al Gore, then there must be other people that feel that way, too. Has nothing to do with them being Texans. In fact, I would think Yankees and Westerners would like him even less if they have the same gripes as my mom - at least we identify with his Southern accent.

:)
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:18 AM
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33. 2006 2006 2006 Let him lead 2006 victory and then we can think 2008.
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:29 AM
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34. I'd probably follow Gore off of a cliff.
I love the guy. I love seeing him become a real person as opposed to the political stiff he and the media made him out to be in the past.
If he keeps it up I'll work my ass off to support him!
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 01:11 AM
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35. I prefer the stiff version.
More reason, please. Less emotion. We need common sense and technocratic governance so red tape would not kill people in NOLA.
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the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 01:15 AM
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37. He would definitely be a plausible candidate -
as long as he doesn't get FAT again! His face CANNOT handle the extra weight the way Clinton's could! A fat Gore looks :scared:.
But as long as he can keep in fighting trim, I say, why not?
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drummo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:44 AM
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38. You are a little bit superficial, aren't you?
Want a beaty contest? Well, then go to a beaty contest.
This is about the presidency.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:44 AM
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45. I'd vote for Al but I don't think he's gonna run
under any circumstances.

He'd be a great President but a dubious candidate, if you take my meaning.
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