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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:03 PM
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Now that the GOP is in free fall, we, at DU, can expect a
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 07:06 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
subversive attempt by those who embrace the Neocon Fundy agenda to come over here and try some phys-ops BS.

They are going to try to "divide and conquer", in their desperate attempt to disrupt democratic solidarity.

Not to mention, try to learn more about that project of which we do not speak.

I'm seeing posts that unequivocally proclaim that one candidate or another is unelectable and we should not support him/her.

I've seen posts essentially trashing Cindy Sheehan and the Gold Star families, because they are no longer "useful".

And, I've seen posts that explain how scary and unassailable the repubs are.

All these posts seem to be much more frequent now that the repubs have revealed themselves to the country, and the world, as the corrupt, greedy, heartless, racist, misogynistic,warmongering, power grubbing folks that we knew they were all along.

So, keep an eye out all. We must hear diverse points of view, within our ranks, however, when we're dealing with posters regurgitating RW talking points, we must be aware and act accordingly.

That is all. MKJ

Edited to add: I say we "must" however, with the wildly diverse and free thinking group here at DU, I'll amend to we "mostly should". MKJ

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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:05 PM
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1. Phys ops?
are they going to sneak laxatives into our threads?
I don't put anything past them.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:13 PM
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5. I think he means fizz ops. His soda is flat.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:42 PM
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23. Kool-Aid.
The Kool-Aid Brigade of the 101st Fighting Keyboardists will be infiltrating.

Onward marches the brave Reich-Wing of the Republican Party.

And so let us prepare the digital tombstones.

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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:17 PM
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9. ROFLMAO...sneak laxatives into our threads...
:rofl:

The last thing any thread needs is to flow in an unchecked way. MKJ
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:05 PM
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2. Did you HAVE to mention the project??!
Grrrrrr... :grr:

NGU.


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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:09 PM
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4. I meant project,, as to on a screen.
The project"ion" of those things that we do not speak of.

Like,uh, the projection of hostility by ClassWarrior.

Yeah, like that. MKJ
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:13 PM
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6. That better be what you meant.
NGU.


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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:08 PM
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3. Whose been
trashing Cindy? Haven't seen that one, except the fake one at Kos?


And personally, I have stated just today that I don't think Hil is electable as Prez, tho I like her for VP.


But I'll support her if she get the nom.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:14 PM
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7. Well, the Cindy posts aren't recent. And, I agree, I'm not thrilled with
Hillary, but the posts that assail unmercifully any candidate at this early stage are sort of over the top.

And, I must admit, that I may be giving freeps et.al. more credit that they deserve, for clever subterfuge. MKJ
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:20 PM
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10. I Agree with You...I too don't think Hillary is really electable...unless
it's because people are tired of the way America has been pulled along, and long for the days when her husband was in the WH, and there was truly peace, and prosperity for the first time in such a long, long time...

Electing Hilary would effectively put Bill back into the WH, since he can't run for Prez a third time, and that's what I believe people who want Hilary to run for Prez, really want.

I haven't changed my mind since the SCOTUS handed * the pResidency in December of 2000--I believe Al Gore should've run for the 2004 Presidential Elections and that Terry McAuliffe was WRONG when he stated that if Al Gore had chosen to run for office, he would have had to run without DNC support thereby effectively sawing Gore's running legs off at the knees.

Terry McAuliffe claimed, that Al Gore would be too controversial a candidate; forgetting that ANY Democratic candidate is for Republicans "too controversial"!

Then again, no one counted on that the Repukes would once again steal the election for the second time in the row!

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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:15 PM
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8. Stay positive, not paranoid.
Its important to remember the divide and conquer routine works very well with paranoia. If somebody can come in here and point to some democrat and say "look, he's a freeper spy because he believes this and that" and you believe him, the division has occured. Many free thinking democrats hold conservative views on some things. Whats important is that we have a framework of mutual respect for our viewpoints, and stay positive. Its more interesting to me to hear why Clark rules, for instance, then why Hillary sucks.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:21 PM
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13. Nicely said. I just noticed this uptick in anti whatever Dem candidate
or anti Sheehan posts and became exactly that...paranoid.

OK, I'm slowly removing the tinfoil. I'll just keep it handy, but won't wear it yet. MKJ
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:26 PM
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20. Rich
:rofl:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 01:04 AM
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24. Have you ever seen the impotent ones...
...who think they're constantly disrupting us from undercover, but are really just obvious, obnoxious, and annoying?

NGU.


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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 01:44 AM
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26. Nope-- can't say that I ever ever ever have
B-)
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 02:34 AM
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28. Oh, ho, ho, ho, what a hoot!
I'm so silly, saying DU needs positivity, trust and unity behind folks in our party! HA! You're right! What DU REALLY needs is more negativity, paranoia about fellow members, and shit slinging toward our own leaders while republicans run the country! Of course!
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 01:10 AM
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25. Hillary doesn't suck....
if she did, Bill wouldn't have needed Monica :evilgrin:

Sorry, but someone had to say it...
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:20 PM
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11. Pubbie PsyOps
I agree with the original post. The Pubs are extraordinarily adept at agitprop, one species of which is fostering disarray in the opposition.

We need to stay strong and positive -- but we must also be aware of the enemy within. The RW "Young Turks" are dedicated, as dedicated as any al Qaeda cel. They hate us and want to make America a one-party state. This is particularly true of Dominionists and Christian Reconstructionists.

When you sense someone stirring the pot, setting another's post against a third --- you may be seeing Republican agitprop at work.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:20 PM
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12. We also need to be weary of "Left Wing" aka "N*der" talking points.
Many RW people posing as discontents here use so called leftist ideology/language to bitch.

Food for thought.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:26 PM
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14. Sometimes I have to wonder
if the really "over the top" posts about conspiracies and such are actually freepers trying to get good material.

Like the stuff about bio warfare at the demonstrations.

My mind just can't compute that level of evil. I hope I'm right.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:36 PM
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15. I ain't no Freeper
But remember, even paranoids have enemies.

I hope we can maintain a bit of a sense of humor about it, though.

You DO have your tinfoil hat, right???
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:44 PM
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17. My tinfoil hat is ready to go
and I really didn't mean that I thought the bioterror dem folks were freepers, tho reading it back it sounds like I did.

But I mean heavy duty conspiracy fears (and THAT is a big one) seem to end up on Freeper sites.

However, I am STILL freaked about the concept of the government spraying demonstrators with germs. But I take Prozac so I won't get too far worrying about it. I won't be mentioning it my husband, however, who is bipolar!

LOL
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:43 PM
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16. They're already here and have always been here
Psych ops usually attempts to trigger hopelessness in their enemy. That's what allows people to be controlled. I would suggest the "all is hopeless and bleak" posters are more likely psych ops, though I'm sure there's a mixture (and that doesn't mean there aren't tons of people posting such posts that aren't genuine DU folk).
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:02 PM
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18. kick and nominating - as people outta at least think about this topic
EOM

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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:03 PM
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19. I agree with you, another kick for those that might miss it, a must read.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 11:30 PM
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:30 PM
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21. I had a similar conversation tonight with another DU'er off board
They don't have to have low post counts to be freepers.
One went today that was over 1000 posts and had been here almost a year.
However, I think as things start to heat up, the ones that have been very careful all along are going to start overplaying their hands from sheer frustration.
I know from reading other sites that are nameless here--that many of these people brag about being here with high post counts, being donors, being close to the mods, and some brag that they are close to being mods themselves, etc.
Whether that is true or not, I have no way of knowing.
But the regurgitated RW talking points are your first clue...final clue is when you call them on it and they tell you to fuck off, blow me, etc.
Typical freeper response...when you can't attack the message, attack the messenger.
Not hard to spot.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 08:01 AM
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29. Now that is a person
who needs to get a life. I mean I enjoy reading the freeps, Malkin, etc. to see what their take is on stuff. But to prolong a ruse over a year?

I suggest that really is an identity mental illness of some sort. Like multiple personalities.
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Krist Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 01:50 AM
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27. Good Point
Scared of republicans...lol.

Contrary to the "so-called" public perception, they are a bunch of wussies and cowards primarily because conservatism stifles the mind and corrupts your soul with the greediness it festers.

The smartest, strongest, bravest and kindest people I ever met in my life are all proud, conscientious liberals :)



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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 09:34 AM
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30. Locking....
If you feel that someone is a disruptor,
please use the alert button so that the
moderators can take care of the situation.




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