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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 04:47 AM
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Vice President Cheney Can Be Removed from Office Now!
"The reason we went to a war in Iraq, was because the Democratic Party was neutralized, by the belief, that Cheney had the evidence, that Iraq was getting nuclear weapons. Cheney knew there were no such nuclear weapons. Cheney knew the story about Niger 'yellow cake' going to Iraq was a fraud. And yet, with that knowledge, he pushed that argument, in order to convince the Congress to subside, and to allow the war to go ahead."

http://www.larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2003/030708remove_cheney.html

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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 06:10 AM
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1. And have VP Delay instead?
No, thank you.
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 06:13 AM
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2. Don't be silly...
The country would explode into flames at that prospect ~
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 06:21 AM
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3. Also...
Even though this would cast a Nixonian shadow over Bush, A fresh faced candidate for the future would have instant recognition. A relatively unknown or even Jeb?

Sounds too risky to me.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 07:22 AM
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13. Is Delay as evil as TinMan?
I don't think so. It would be like Nixon choosing Ford.
Let it happen, then when the Chimp goes, and it's pResident Bug-Man, we blow his ass bck to Texas in the next election...
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 06:35 AM
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4. If you want a peaceful or somewhat peacefully transition
of power, then the Bu$h administration has to follow in Nixon's footsteps and get rid of the VP first. Since the Senate is really split in half and the dems are finally getting some balls, expect a very safe and acceptable pol to be W's choice. Who that might be? I have no idea, but then I had never heard of Gerald Ford when he became VP.

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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 07:00 AM
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9. Sure, I got'cha; it is all a form of moot point any-hoo...
Now that the Rove/RNC/Nixon-Cheney-Bush-Carlyle/Halliburton-Harkin-Big-Oil-Bechtel/Bush-Family-Oligarcy/Israeli-Lobby Admin is in there they'll likely need to pulled up & out like a cancer so don't worry...

They're intention is to stay right there. If people don't wake the hell up however...it will all be deemed to have been just a pipe dream and nothing more.

America The Beautiful that is ~
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 07:37 AM
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17. I didn't mean to imply that the transition will be easy or peaceful
This cabal is going to go out kicking and screaming and there is the real possiblity of 1000's, maybe even 100,000's more people getting killed as a result. I do believe that they probably have at least one more nasty surprise up their sleeves to give us one last dose of Shock and Awe before they go.

However, I fully support the idea of trying to remove Cheney from power first. I think that those of us who want to see the end of this misadministration should look back to 1973 to see how it was done then and try to follow that example. Removing Cheney from office first will make what is going to be a very difficult process, a whole lot easier.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 06:50 AM
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5. Wrong thread
Edited on Wed Jul-16-03 06:51 AM by Loonman
Disregard.
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 06:54 AM
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6. "Wrong thread" ~ "Disregard" what?
:shrug:
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 06:55 AM
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7. I replied to another thread on this one
Edited out my response.
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 07:01 AM
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10. Oh...
:hi: anyhow ~
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 06:59 AM
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8. No, he can't.
Both houses of Congress have Republican majorities, and the days of honorable, decent Republicans have gone the way of the buggy whip, so there is absolutely no possible way that Bush or Cheney will be impeached.

There's about as much point in fantasizing about impeachment as there is in hoping that the party will draft Gore.

Reality is not as much fun, but it's what we've got to work with.
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 07:06 AM
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11. That's not historically true...
The disparity between facts, reality, and Republican self preservation caught up with Nixon in the 70's. Nevertheless read Post # 9 above if you would...
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 07:16 AM
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12. I would like to agree, but
I think it's useful to look back at the last two Republicans to stick with Nixon: George H.W. Bush and Trent Lott.

Who's running the party now? The son of George H.W. Bush and Trent Lott's successor, Bill Frist, a man who in many ways makes Lott look like St. Francis. And then there's Tom DeLay, who has the testicles (or ovaries, as the case may be) of every House member floating in formaldehyde in a real big jar on his desk.

The bunch running Washington now is very different from the ones who went to the White House to tell Nixon the jig was up.

It is, of course, possible that they might become convinced that their self-preservation requires them to dump the leadership of their party, but it is far more likely that we can beat them in 2004, so I think that putting our efforts in that direction is more likely to pay off.
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 07:26 AM
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15. The son of G.H.W. Bush is 'running' the country...
Do to the pathetically effete apathy of: We The People and nothing more.

My opinion ~

And again I tend to disagree: the hunta running the white house is to a shocking extent very much the same and compiled of Nixon, Nixon-era, Nixon-like or Nixon-esque thinkers i.e.

http://www.prospect.org/print/V14/2/reich-r.html

http://www.who2.com/dickcheney.html

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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 07:23 AM
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14. I agree about decent, honorable republicans
Edited on Wed Jul-16-03 07:27 AM by MarianJack
A few months ago, my wife and I called Olympia Snowe's office to praise her for not supporting president moron's tax cut for the rich. We stated that we were proud of her for sticking to her guns in the face of the invective that she & Voinovich were getting that you KNOW was being inspired by the white house (in typical right wing genius fashion, they were runnung French bashing commercials to attack Sen. Snowe in the state of the union with the highest % of French ancestry citizens, Maine).

Not long after, we received a letter from Sen. Snowe that played up her almost TOTAL support for the bush agenda with a healthy dose of Democrat bashing included.

In my life, I've voted for the occasional republican. In recent months however, I've come to the conclusion that I'll never vote for a republican again. It is NOT the santorums, lotts, bush & cheyneys that brought me to this point, it is the "Moderate, reasonable" republicans, like our Sens. Snowe & Collins who don't bring home the bacon for their own. Did anybody notice that NO republican said that trent lott's comments were WRONG, just that they may hinder pretzel boy's agenda.

ANY Democrat over Any republican in '04!
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Ani Yun Wiya Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 07:31 AM
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16. Not very likely
Bush and his crew are not about to "vote" any of their own out.
Trent Lott was a sop thrown to the electorate to make it seem as though they meant business.

I think that although they are not above throwing a few small fry to the lions, there is no way that a Republican controlled
political environment is going to do anything but their very best (or worst) to maintain a lock on the reins of power.

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 08:59 AM
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18. Hi Ani Yun Wiya!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 12:05 PM
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19. "Bush and his crew are not about to "vote" any of their own out."?
Precisely why we are to show them just how it is done come Election ~ 2004; Do Not Shirk Your Civic Duty! Be There! Vote Nixon/Bush/Cheney Out If That Is Your Mind!!! If not, I know that at least I will...
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