Kobe Bryant Accusations

[jiacinto]

Are they true or not?

[CALRAIDER]

1. In a word?

Yes, sure i trust anyone that tries out for American Idol!!!

[CatWoman]

2. Why don't we wait for all the facts to come out

*sigh*

More of the OJ-ization of America............

[higherpie]

13. O.J. did have some 9-1-1 tapes from his wife

remember? This is NOT a case about Kobe and his wife. It's about a wannabe, rejected American Idol tryout being giddy about a celebrity (Kobe) checking into the hotel where she worked.

Kobe checked into a hotel to be near his surgery center the next day. Christ, just because O.J. was black doesn't automatically make Kobe's case ANYTHING like O.J.

[CatWoman]

21. that's NOT what I meant!!!!!!!!!!!

perhaps I should have said, the "tabloidization of America".

Christ!!!!

And I still say wait until all the facts come out.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

35. I agree

It is not beyond some victims to lie, but it is not beyond some sweet face with an All American image to rape a woman.

To even ask this question right now is to throw people into all of their preconceived notions void of evidence.

People are making statements on both sides. Let's see what they say under oath.

[CMT]

3. how would we know?

eom.

[Alenne]

4. Without knowing the evidence

I can't tell you.

[Terwilliger]

5. Don't know....I do know George W. Bush is a traitor

maybe we should talk about that

[roughsatori]

6. You mean Kobe put the 16 words in Shurbs speach?

Outrageous.

[oasis]

7. Don't know. I do know that the k-mart molester is a Freeper

Same slimy modus operandi.

[Brian Sweat]

27. K-mart molester?

How do you molest a department store?

Seriously though, I am not familiar with this story. Got any more information?

[webtrainer]

8. Kobe's attorney seems confident

Don't have a link, but he was saying that the more information about the case that the DA looks at, the better the case for Kobe. Who knows.

Unfortunately, the young woman in question is having a lot to deal with in light of the array of stories being floated about her dealing with life's challenges. Newsweek supposedly has an article with a lot of unattributed rumors and innuendo about both parties to the situation, Kobe's marriage, the girl's previous 911 calls, etc. I don't think anyone comes off too good so far, especially the local sherrif in CO.

[Yavin4]

10. Are You Saying That A Major Media Outlet

would print rumors and allegations instead of facts? In America? </end sarcasm>

Our news media has become nothing but a bunch of high school gossip mongerers.

[bunnyhop]

9. Another case of he said she said.

I'm with Kobe. We saw with mike tyson how some women will make any accusation for money. And if the accused is black, she'll get the money.

[REP]

16. Oh?

And if the accused is black, she'll get the money.

The woman who was raped by Tyson is a black woman. The woman accusing Bryant is also black.

[higherpie]

18. Bullshit, Bryant's accuser is NOT black

She's a white, blonde, 19 year-old cheerleader who graduated from high school one year earlier in Eagle County, CO.

Bryant's wife is more ethnic than this blonde money/fame grubber.

[GreenArrow]

38. Yeah, we saw that with Anita HIll and Clarence "LDS" Thomas

Yep, justice was served in that one, alright.

[Uzybone]

11. nobody knows yet

but shame on the sheriffs office for seeking cheap publicity from this. It seems like standards in virtually every aspect of service have fallen into to toilet, especially since we got a sociopath in the oval office.

[higherpie]

12. It's more than "shame" on the sheriff

it's dereliction of duty (at a minimum) and probably quantifiable monetary damages to someone who makes a substantial living from endorsements connected to his public persona. Not to mention, it is simply a violation of every known civil right,,,ah, never mind...

After losing an American Idol tryout, this cheerleader "victim" seemed to find her own version of reality T.V. through her job, when celebrity Kobe checked in, and she recruited Kobe's reputation as her ticket to her 15 minutes. A wannabe celebrity, with emotional problems, who delivered room service after her shift ended to Kobe who was checked in for surgery the next day.

Well, it makes you wonder who the true "victim" really is...:eyes: Kobe, who was there for surgery, privacy, anonymity and peace? Or a rejected American Idol actress seeking her magic carpet ride. And here we are, waiting her emergence, her debut, finally, on the national scene...A star is Born!

[lazarus]

32. violation of civil rights?

He was arrested and released on bail. Happens every day to thousands of people, before charges are filed.

What you're wanting is special treatment for Kobe. The Star Treatment, where the DA takes forever making up his mind, and then an arrest is made. That sort of thing happens to the rich and famous.

Nice that you're able to make such a judgement call on a young lady you've never met.

Here's a scenario: She was excited that Kobe Bryant, of whom she was a fan, was staying there, and made arrangements to deliver room service to him so she could meet him. Signals were sent and misunderstood, and a Bad Thing happened.

That's as plausible as your scenario.

[Merlin]

14. No Way.

I don't even like Kobe. Hell, he plays for those damn Lakers and they beat my Sixers bad in the finals two years ago. He plays along side that giant guy who just has to stand there and drop the ball in the basket.

But I've seen Kobe interviewed. This is one bright, solid, well disciplined guy. No way is he going to risk his career, his marriage, his endorsements, and his reputation by fooling around with a floozy.

Hell, no famous, smart guys have ever fooled around when the stakes were so high, have they? ;-)

[radwriter0555]

22. Well from the years we've watched bryant in the public eye, the tale

from the little girl just doesn't add up. Bryant just doesn't fit the profile of an aggressor, he's a nice kid, brought up nice, married to a nice girl with nice parents.. He's a nerd who plays ball really!

His reputation is impeccable, and people like this rarely have those deep secrets. Can't keep something like that a secret either.

[Skittles]

26. come on Merlin

look at what Clinton risked for a BJ from Monica.

[REP]

15. No Idea

Bryant has such a well-established reputation as a decent guy, and the victim seems to have an equally good reputation. I tend not to think that women make up allegations of rape for the attention, as the attention often turns negative. Of course, there's always an exception and it's possible she's a flake - or he's actually not a decent man.

[higherpie]

17. Who said anything about "rape?"

Has Kobe been charged with rape? Kobe hasn't been charged as of yet. And he was arrested against the D.A.'s direct advice to the sheriff. So, how many flakes, and how many decent men can there be here?

And now the timeline is shrinking - the reports of noise from the room false....

Well, at least Kobe had the surgery for his knee that he was there for.

[dwillison]

28. Another fellow had a sterling reputation, used to do Hertz

commercials with Arnold Palmer.

[nini]

29. Actually, it was a known fact OJ was a wife beater..

going back to his days with his first wife.


This is not the case with Kobe

[lazarus]

19. anybody

Who claims to know Kobe Bryant is lying. We only know what he allows us to know.

Heck, even his teammates don't know who he is. He's a very reserved person.

Could he have done this? I haven't a clue, because I don't know Kobe Bryant. It's quite possible. It's also possible it's a setup.

I find it interesting that the alleged victim only hired a lawyer today. If this was a money grab, I would have expected Gloria Allred to be all over it from day one.

So let's wait and see what happens.

BTW, arrests come before indictments a great deal. What people are actually complaining about is that Kobe didn't get special treatment. Which seems rather odd.

[Kahuna]

20. Why yes, Carlos. I was a fly on the wall..

and saw everything. :eyes:

</sarcasm>

[trumad]

23. I thought they took some DNA samples from the alleged victim

and from Bryant... ME's Thinks that if they find some DNA where it shouldn't be then Bryant's in trouble... If not then wheres the proof?

[Kahuna]

25. DNA doesn't prove "rape." It only proves that there

was sexual contact.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

33. Eyewitnesses at the hotel said she was visibly upset when she

left. The point is an investigation is ongoing. It is hard to tell what is so but I am not going to assume anything yet.

[Blue_Chill]

24. No Kobe Bryant is not building a nuke

Those accusations were based on forged documents and should never have been made.

:D

[TLM]

30. This looks like BS to me...

From what I've heard the arrest was done under a law that can mean anything from full on rape to simply touching someone (fully clothed) in a way they do not like.

Why did this girl go to this guy's room AFTER her shift was over, and why did the arrest go around the DA? The fact he was arrested without charges being filed is bullshit.

It seems like a young girl trying to get famous.

[lazarus]

31. They talked to

The DA's office. We really don't know any facts yet.

And people are arrested before they are charged every day.

[relaf]

34. looks like....

If I had to guess Kobe is probably guilty of no more than cheating on his wife. Which of course isnt a crime, but does create an oppurtunity for money grubbers to get after his wallet. My prediction is no criminal charges filed, but Kobe will settle out of court(for civil damages) for an undisclosed sum probably not to exceed $200K. Hopefully, he will learn his lesson about screwing around with groupies after this.

My caveat of course is, I dont know all the facts, but this is my best guess. If physical evidence shows signs of sexual assault, then well, the Lakers better try get someone besides Payton and Malone on the free agent market.

[Ishoutandscream]

36. If he were a Dallas Cowboy, he'd be guilty

nt

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

37. Ok big POOPOO for DU'ers and for you, Carlos

YOur question throws people into their preconceived notions and forces them to go by comments made by people not under oath and the media spin.
It compels people to take sides whn all facts are not in evidence.
It compels people to weigh rumors about Kobe or their IMAGE of Kobe versus rumors about the alleged victim or commentators' IMAGE of the alleged victim.

Many of the responses on this thread speak to the inherent prejudices people already have towards:
Rape victims
athletes
black athletes
rape victims who accuse athletes

Ugly day on DU when rumors, prejudices, conclusionary responses without facts in evidence trump waiting for the facts to come out.

Now to answer you question as honestly as possible:
"Kobe Bryant Accusations Are they true or not?"

Yes, it is true he is accused. End of story.