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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 10:45 AM
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RITA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AS CATEGORY 3...
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT3+shtml/231452.shtml?

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WTNT43 KNHC 231452
TCDAT3
HURRICANE RITA DISCUSSION NUMBER 24
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT FRI SEP 23 2005

RITA HAS WEAKENED SINCE YESTERDAY. THE EYE IS NOT AS DISTINCT AND
THE CONVECTION IS NOT AS INTENSE AS 24 HOURS AGO. THIS IS CONSISTENT
WITH THE CENTRAL PRESSURE WHICH HAS RISEN TO AROUND 927 MB AND
WINDS HAVE DECREASED. THE INITIAL INTENSITY HAS BEEN ADJUSTED DOWN
TO 115 KNOTS. UNLESS ANOTHER EYEWALL CYCLE OCCURS THAT COULD BRING
THE WINDS TEMPORARILY UP A LITTLE BIT...THE OVERALL TENDENCY IS FOR
RITA TO WEAKEN GRADUALLY. SO FAR THE PASSAGE OF RITA OVER THE WARM
EDDY IN THE GULF OF MEXICO HAS NOT RESULTED IN INTENSIFICATION.
HOWEVER...RESEARCH SUGGESTS THERE IS A LAG IN THE ATMOSPHERIC
RESPONSE. NEVERTHERLESS...RITA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AS
CATEGORY 3 OR...A LITTLE LESS LIKELY...CATEGORY 4 INTENSITY.

UPPER-AIR DATA SHOWS THAT THE HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEM CONTROLLING THE
MOTION OF THE HURRICANE IS ALREADY NORTH AND EAST OF RITA AND IS
CENTERED OVER ARKANSAS AND TENNESSEE. CONSEQUENTLY...RITA HAS TURNED
MORE TO THE NORTHWEST AND IS NOW MOVING 310 DEGREES AT 9 KNOTS. NO
SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN TRACK IS ANTICIPATED BEFORE LANDFALL NEAR THE
UPPER TEXAS OR SOUTHWESTERN LOUISIANA COAST EARLY SATURDAY. ONCE
INLAND...THE STEERING CURRENTS ARE FORECAST TO COLLAPSE AND RITA IS
EXPECTED TO MOVE LITTLE OVER NORTHEASTERN TEXAS AND SOUTHWESTERN
ARKANSAS. RITA BY THEN WILL LIKELY PRODUCE TORRENTIAL RAINS. THE
OFFICIAL FORECAST FOLLOWS VERY CLOSELY THE MODEL CONSENSUS.

RITA IS A LARGE HURRICANE AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND
OUTWARD A GREAT DISTANCE. A SOND DROPPED FROM A RECONNAISSANCE
PLANE MEASURED 56 KNOTS SURFACE WINDS ABOUT 120 N MI WEST OF THE
EYE.

FORECASTER AVILA
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 10:48 AM
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1. This is 'relatively' good news! So Galveston and Houston will be
somewhat spared?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 11:01 AM
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9. IIUC, the water build up is still there and there's no steering currents
to move Rita away.

They could be facing 2 days of torrential downpours.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:26 PM
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15. Hope it's not a repeat of Alicia! I was there for that one....n/t
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 10:51 AM
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2. Thank God, thank the Heavens, thank the Universe, thank whatever.
Edited on Fri Sep-23-05 10:52 AM by Straight Shooter
I was really hoping for this, a calming of Rita. And the icing on the cake is that bush doesn't get to play hero. :D
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 10:58 AM
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7. second that
let it weaken even more - this has been terrifying
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 10:53 AM
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3. Still sucks that hurricane will hit them, but a 3 is better than a 4 or 5
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 10:55 AM
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4. What was Katrina when it hit?
Edited on Fri Sep-23-05 10:55 AM by Mz Pip
A 3 can still be catastrophic if it hits in the wrong place. The size of this hurricane, along with its force could still be pretty devestating.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 10:57 AM
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5. It's still gonna cause some oil rig hardships and flooding
But it is hitting east of Galvaston/Houston and weakened - it shouldn't be nearly as catastrophic as Katrina. These places are above sea level...
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 10:58 AM
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6. Katrina was Cat 4
right?
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 11:00 AM
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8. Sure, Category 3 is no big deal; just like Ivan
From NOAA web site:
Category Three Hurricane:
Winds 111-130 mph (96-113 kt or 178-209 km/hr). Storm surge generally 9-12 ft above normal. Some structural damage to small residences and utility buildings with a minor amount of curtainwall failures. Damage to shrubbery and trees with foliage blown off trees and large trees blown down. Mobile homes and poorly constructed signs are destroyed. Low-lying escape routes are cut by rising water 3-5 hours before arrival of the center of the hurricane. Flooding near the coast destroys smaller structures with larger structures damaged by battering from floating debris. Terrain continuously lower than 5 ft above mean sea level may be flooded inland 8 miles (13 km) or more. Evacuation of low-lying residences with several blocks of the shoreline may be required. Hurricanes Jeanne and Ivan of 2004 were Category Three hurricanes when they made landfall in Florida and in Alabama, respectively.


Take a look at some of what Hurricane Ivan did last year:
http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/news/guides/hurricane/galleries.shtml

True, Cat 5 is much worse, but Cat 3 is still really bad.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 11:02 AM
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11. Simply cut and pasted NOAA text...
not making any judgements...
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 11:04 AM
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12. Sorry, not meaning to rag on you...
Just wanted everyone to see that Category 3 is still a major hurricane.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 11:08 AM
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14. Absolutely, I agree - a big dangerous storm...
Edited on Fri Sep-23-05 11:08 AM by Mr_Spock
I do think this is news though - we may have more deaths due to the evacuation that hurricane though - maybe an interesting twist. We shall see soon enough...
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 11:01 AM
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10. Watch out for a CAT 5 STORM SURGE though!!!
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 11:06 AM
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13. Who knows how good it is?
We heard all this "weakening" stuff about Katrina also.Weakening does not mean weak.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:30 PM
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16. Hurricane Watch Net--also mentioned 25 inches of rain
Edited on Fri Sep-23-05 04:31 PM by Gloria
in the area from Port Arthur LA to Alabama, including Metro NOLA, over the next few days...
if I heard that right via shortwave radio!



details:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4863488&mesg_id=4863488

www.hwn.org


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