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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:30 PM
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Arnold's Abused Women. Total =15 (so far)
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Arnold's Abused Women. Total =15

Because you can't tell the women he assaulted, sexually harrassed or abused without a scorecard.

http://www.latimes.com/news/yahoo/la-me-women2oct02001424,0,7786008.story?coll=la-newsaol-headlines

<<<Brackets indicate verbal>>>

6

1975- E. Laine Stockton. Gold's Gym, Venice Beach. Grabbed left breast.

1980- Former pro volleyball player. 19th Street, Santa Monica. Grabbed/squeezed left breast.

Late 1980s- Movie studio secretary. Columbia Pictures lot. Grabbed right buttock.

<<<Late 80s- Waitress. Bicycle Shop cafe on Wilshire Boulevard in West Los Angeles. Said, 'I want you to go in the bathroom, stick your finger in your (vagina expletive, deleted), and bring it out to me.' ">>>

1990- Female crew member. San Bernadino County town of Fontana (while shooting T2). Groped, tried to pull off robe, bathing suit.

<<<1990- Another female crew member. San Bernadino County town of Fontana (while shooting T2). Pulled onto lap, asked, "Had you ever had a man slide his tongue in your (expletive deleted)" (Buttock area. Use your imagination)>>>

1990- Still another female crew member as witnessed by Nancy Tafoya. San Bernadino County town of Fontana (while shooting T2). Grabbed and pulled apart knees, thrust pelvis into her.

<<<1990- Stuntwoman Chere Rae Bryson. San Bernadino County town of Fontana (while shooting T2). Used vulgar words for vagina and clitoris during her contact with him.>>>

Dec 2000- Anna Richardson. Dorchester Hotel, London. Fingered left aureole.

***

3

http://www.latimes.com/news/yahoo/la-me-cases4oct04005421,0,7144433.story?coll=la-newsaol-headlines

Early 1980s- Collette Brooks, an intern at CNN in Los Angeles. Grabbed buttocks and told her she had a "nice (buttock expletive deleted)."

1988- Linnea Harwell. Set of Twins. Pulled her down on a bed while he was wearing only underwear.

1988- Carla Baron, stand-in. Set of Twins. The actor had sandwiched her between himself and a crew member and forced his tongue into her mouth.

***

2

http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-calif041.html

1970s- Dr. Joy Brown. Groped Ankles and knees.

1978- Female TV network intern. Sound stage. Groped.

***

4

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/recall/la-me-women5oct05,1,4083033.story?coll=la-home-headlines

1979- Elizabeth Rothner. A Santa Monica bar. Lifted her sweatshirt, exposing her bare breasts before a crowd.

Mid 1980s- Jan Prinzmetal. Outside a Venice gym. Reached under skirt and grabbed bare buttocks.

1986- Tamee Smith. Studo lot while filming Predator. Grabbed her breast.

2000- A 51-year-old woman. West Los Angeles post-production studio. Pinned her to his chest and spanked her.

***

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/stories/feature.cfm?instanceid=59509

ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER'S LOVE CHILD SCANDAL

On the eve of the California gubernatorial recall election, Arnold Schwarzenegger is embroiled in a love child scandal!

According to an article in the London paper, The Daily Mail, a Californian woman, Tammy Baker-Tousignant, has told pals that Arnold secretly fathered her son while he was already married to Maria Shriver.

Confronted by The ENQUIRER in front of her suburban home in Brea, Calif. -- where she lives with her husband, Tammy would only say: "I don't want to talk about this." Tammy previously denied the claim to the British press, and Arnold insists The Daily Mail story is not true.

But an inside source told The ENQUIRER that Tammy and Arnold were very close a decade ago.

"She was in her mid-20s when she and Arnold first met and struck up a friendship," said the source.

"She was a flight attendant aboard a private aircraft that Arnold frequently chartered.

"While Arnold was married, he was smitten by her bubbly personality.

"She was equally smitten by his celebrity status.

"A pal of Tammy's said that not only was there was an affair between Arnold and the Tammy but that Tammy claimed that her son was fathered by Arnold.

"When I contacted Tammy to ask about her pal's allegation, she denied that her son is Arnold's child.

"But when I pulled her son's birth certificate, I found that the father's name was blank!

"And even the woman herself admits that over the years many people have commented to her on how much her son bears a physical resemblance to Arnold."

The Schwarzenegger love child claim has also been made by several other women who knew Tammy at the time, according to the inside source.

A number of years ago rumors of Arnold's affair with Tammy began to leak out publicly. Several people knew about the rumors and word was getting out.

By the late 1990s, Maria Shriver got wind of it and arranged for Tammy to lose her job.

Reporter Wendy Leigh investigated the love child story for the London paper The Daily Mail and told The ENQUIRER: "Despite Tammy's denials, I researched this story for two months and I think it's right on."

But the inside source declared: "Although Tammy dismisses the allegations that Arnold is the father of her oldest son, she hasn't come forward yet with the DNA test that proves it isn't true.

"Until she does, the verdict is out on whether California's Republican candidate for governor fathered a love child."

***

How low the republicans have come,

and how much they lowered the bar in what they'll overlook in a candidate...

as long as he has an (R) after his name.

DUI, Convicted criminal, ex-convict, AWOL/desertion, drug use in Bush Jr.

Now...

Illegal alien, drug using, racist, woman assaulting, AWOL going, orgy participating Nazi sympathizer in Arnold.

And the republicans who still support Arnold obviously have no shame in how they support his violence against women by dismissing the claims against him,

even though many were backed by his own admission.

(It it any surprise there's a huge gender gap in this election?

What's sad is the self hating women who are supporting him)

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:38 PM
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1. I have to ask a tough question here
And I hope I'm not putting myself in violation of the proscription on "right-wing spin" here, but why have none of these women come forward with these allegations until just now, the final days and hours before the recall election?

Feedback I'm hearing from friends, family, and co-workers is the timing of all of these allegations and accusations calls their credibility into question in a big way.

"Until she does, the verdict is out on whether California's Republican candidate for governor fathered a love child."

Let me 'splain something about Rules of Evidence here in California: The statute of limitations on paternity claims is two years. A woman who wants to sue a man for paternity here has to file her initial claim before that two years is up, else in the eyes of the court there is no paternity case unless the man voluntarily agrees to waive the 2-year limit and subjects himself to a 3-way blood test.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:40 PM
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3. Because
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 04:43 PM by Lindacooks
The LA Times spent 7 weeks investigating this before breaking the story.

And most women are understandably afraid of coming out about this kind of thing, especially to an extremely wealthy, powerful 'man'. Some go their entire lives without telling anyone about it.

On edit: And let's face it, there hasn't been a whole lot of time here for any kind of revelations or investigative journalism, in this sham of an election (actually, right wing power grab).

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:44 PM
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5. Fair enough, but out of that many wouldn't one or two have said
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 04:45 PM by slackmaster
SOMETHING publicly or in the court system about one or two of these very serious allegations by now? We're talking about a large number of women and a lot of heinous acts over a very long period of time.

FWIW I know people who have worked on movies with Mr. Schwarzenegger. From their accounts I've concluded he's an egomaniac and a Neandertal, and none of the accusations by these women of past misconduct surprise me in the least. I just wish some of them had been more timely in taking Arnold to task. The fact that it's all come out at the 11th hour makes the LS Times look like a lapdog for Gray Davis, which serves neither of them nor the public interest.
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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:00 PM
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11. These claims are not new
Check this out: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=481531 . Apparently, Premire ran an article on Arnold's sexist behavior in 2001.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:38 PM
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2. Maybe 16?
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Is this woman included in the total? The caption below the picture states she made the announcement October 6, today.

The Charges Against Arnold
http://incestabuse.about.com/cs/legalsystem/a/Arnoldassault.htm
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:30 PM
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18. Yes, this is a new charge - Total: 16 Women
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:43 PM
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4. ah, freedom. We've come a long way, baby :not:
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 04:45 PM by Heddi
be prepared for comments from those that see the women as much as fault as Arnold is because, you know, they didn't file charges. THey didn't say anything. They must have WANTED it to happen, I mean, Arnie's a big strong guy---all the ladies THROW themselves at him.

They're just gold-diggers.

They're just looking for attention.


of course, who's to say that these women DIDN'T say anything? That when they DID say something, that their complaints were just blown off. They were making a big deal out of nothing. They're just looking for money. They just want their names in the spotlights.

Many of these women were extras on movie sets. Their biggest goal in life is to have a credited role in a movie, even if it's "Waitress" or "Cashier".

For many years, Arnold was THE highest paid movie actor in Hollywood. Go against him, smear him, accuse him, and you go against yourself, you smear yourself, you accuse yourself.

I wish these women HAD come forward, but who's to say they didn't, and that their complaints weren't sent to the circular file with a slap on their asses as they're told "it's part of the business, babe"

In every publicized rape, assault, or sexual harrassment case, the WOMAN bears the brunt of the wrath. The WOMAN must have wanted it. The WOMAN has alterior motives. The WOMAN is a gold-digger.

A friend of mine is in the Air Force. She, and several female coworkers were subjected to very aggressive sexual harassment. SHe was the only one to lodge a complaint----all the other women felt that if they went forward, their ranks, their promotions, their pay, and their assignments would be compromised. They'd seen it happen before, and felt that the career they'd worked very hard at was not negotiable, where as filing a complaint was.

As eggregious as the actions against them were, they felt that they could put the harassment behind them, and be good workers, and get promoted, and not get stationed to shit hole assignments.

Of course, when my friend went forward, SHE was the one under the spotlight. SHE was the one who had her mental health history put under a magnifying glass. SHE was the one who was made out to be the bad guy.

And what happened? Nothing. Absolutley nothing. Offender gets promoted, gets perks and a wonderful office with a window. She gets sent to shit-hole locations, is given menial, miserable tasks, and is treated like an outcast.

We've not yet come a long way. Far from it. We've barely made any progress at all.....

On Edit---I should explain that when I wrote out this post, there were no follow-up comments made to the inital post. I am not making this post in reference to any other posts made in this thread. When I clicked 'reply' there were no messages. WHen I hit "submit message" there were three others......
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:53 PM
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7. The fact that they did not file charges proves they're not gold diggers
Obviously.
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:58 PM
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8. No, but some people would suggest
that because this info is coming out now (as opposed to years ago), then they're looking for something---higher paying jobs, names in the news, financial compensation-----despite the fact that THESE WOMEN didn't come forward with the story---the newspaper did. The newspaper sought them out.

But facts like that don't matter to the "all women want it" crowd that sometimes pervades around these parts
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:59 PM
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9. It's very obvious why they're all coming out now
The don't want Arnold to be the governor of California.
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:23 PM
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17. well, see, what you're basically saying
is that these women are NOT upset at the fact that they were sexually harassed or assaulted, but rather are doing this for political reasons.

I find that to be a stinky reason.

Again--these women did not come forward. They didn't go on Entertainment TOnight, or Extra, or E! Tv---the NEWSPAPER found these women and told their stories.

Have you thought that perhaps it has less to do with their wanting or not wanting him to be Governor, and MORE with the fact that they want him to be held accountable for his actions?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:25 PM
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23. False dilemma and does not reflect my attitude
I'm saying they ARE upset about how they were treated AND the Los Angeles Times sought them out and published their accounts now for political reasons.

Have you thought that perhaps it has less to do with their wanting or not wanting him to be Governor, and MORE with the fact that they want him to be held accountable for his actions?

Both can be true simultaneously. There is no conflict. Any discussion of their mental calculus for behaving as they are now would be pointless.

Regardless of anyone's reasons for printing or saying what they have recently, due to the timing it appears to be political and will be spun as such by Schwarzenegger's supporters.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:55 PM
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20. Blaming the victims for not coming forward sooner is offensive
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 05:58 PM by Woodstock
Just like with Anita Hill, but I didn't expect to see victim blaming here.

A cretin on a movie set vs. a cretin in one of the hightest positions of power in the US.

Let's see, which case would I not come forward about because it would cause me even more suffering, and which case would I feel an obligation to come forward about so his actions don't impact the lives of people in much of the country.

Let's file this under "no brainer" and give these women a break.
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:07 PM
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22. thank you
well said
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:31 PM
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25. yes thank you!
I've been there and back with this sort of thing personally. Did I go to the press? Answer is NO, I was too scared! However, if the SOB that tried to RAPE me was running for Governor suddenly, ah hmmmm, yeah, I'd come forward alright!

Think before you accuse women of being merely in it for revenge. Many women that have been sexually abused/raped/etc. are so freaked out after it happens that they do not tell anybody!

In my case, I quit my job and never went back and never said a word to anyone until sometime afterwards!

To blame it on the women is a total insult!

:kick:

P.S. 16 women ... how many more ???? Probably more like 1600! :grr:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:26 PM
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24. I'm not blaming the victims for the atrocious timing
I blame the Los Angeles Times.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 04:52 PM
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6. monsters --
My Free graphic at Take Back the Media, a picture tells a thousand words --

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oldcoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:03 PM
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13. Do you have evidence that Clinton raped 387 people?
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 05:10 PM by oldcoot
Please feel free to post it here. Just make sure that you use legitimate sources (Free Republic does not count).
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:05 PM
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14. That's "pansies" to you.
Don't go away mad, just go away.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:05 PM
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15. Dupe post - please delete.
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 05:05 PM by Melinda
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:13 PM
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16. LMAO
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 05:14 PM by Cat Atomic
You should stop listening to Rush. Maybe you'll have an opportunity to kick the habit while Rush is kicking his own? :)
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:50 PM
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19. Buh-bye!!!!!!
Go to hell, you sick disgusting freeper.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:03 PM
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12. TheSmokingGun says:
Schwarzenegger was not pleased to be sued over the Butler deal. In fact, when a female employee of the plaintiffs's law firm served him with legal papers during a New York fundraiser, he responded, "You cunt." The vulgarity was first reported by The New York Observer in a November 1993 story about the "Pumping Iron" litigation. In fact, the young woman even testified in detail about the incident during a subsequent court "traverse hearing" regarding a defense challenge to the sufficiency of the process service.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/arnoldpump1.html

His misogyny has been evident for a very long time.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:03 PM
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21. What a pig
First we have a MORON as president, now perhaps a PIG as governor of the largest state. It's very embarassing to be an American these days.
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