Who else thinks Bush is deliberately trying to destroy the government?

[devilgrrl]

Appointing veterinarians to oversee womens health issues, a lawyer with no disaster relief experience, Karl Rove to head the reconstruction.... the list goes on.

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. they don't beleive in government

so they are making it fail on purpose

[begin_within]

2. Phase 1 was "starve the beast," now Phase 2 is "stab the beast."

[serryjw]

21. Our 'friend' Grover Norquist............

don't forget drowned it in the (NO) bathtub. After they do all this.....They will privatize the balance

[Kenergy]

3. I do n/t

[drb]

4. No, I disagree. He's trying to destroy...

...the whole fuckin' world, starting with the US.

[politick]

5. Because

That's exactly what they are doing. Insofar as there is a federal government, it is only to be used to insulate the elite; enrich companies and persons in league with the rulers; find, imprison and/or kill defined-criminals; and wage war on the behalf of corporations (and the corporate power structure). Elsewise, there is no room or money for social causes, health care or even education.

[iconoclastic cat]

6. Yes, so that he can easily convert it to a full-on fascist state. n/t

[Seansky]

7. I just can't believe he is capable of thinking long enough or effectively

enough to plan such an undertaken...although, if he has no brains and got so far, what does that makes the rest of us?

[cassiepriam]

9. But Rove can nt

[politick]

10. Bingo

He's the face of the plan, not the architect.

[WiseButAngrySara]

17. I would say Cheney and the neocons more so than Rove, as the

architect for the 'new' american century. Rove is and always has been a bully behind the scenes, making up lies and digging up dirt and studying the lies/propaganda that are required to win over votes (abortion, anti-gay marriage, gun rights, the death penalty, and HA-HA these same people? Moral Majority?) He is not behind the ruination of our Government for Big Business, IMO. The Cheneys, Wolfowitzs, Bush I and Jeb, PNAC members, JINSA and AIPAC members...Bush is a pawn, and too stupid to be able to speak about ANYTHING on his own, without guidance. He even has to ask permission to pee, for gosh sakes!

[politick]

19. Yes, yes

Rove is almost like a freelance killer. Although he is ideologically bound to them, you're right that he's not among the prominent thinkers that have dreamt up this nightmare.

[cassiepriam]

32. Doesn't Cheney seem oddly checked out lately??

He left junior all alone, with no babysitter.
Condi shopping, Rove sick.

[annabanana]

42. It's not him..It's the "folks" that pull his strings

study PNAC

[cassiepriam]

8. Bush will do a domestic slash and burn before he leaves....

there is no doubt in my mind at all.
He is crazy enough to do it. The lower the poll
numbers dip, the angrier and uglier he and Rove will get.

[WiseButAngrySara]

11. Who has profitted this entire administrations' tenure? The rich,

Big Business, and the MIC (Military Industrial Complex). They make money (interms of contributions, negative ads etc) and win votes by cutting taxes for those who can most afford to pay. The war profiteers make way too much money on no bid contracts, and like vultures that clean up after the dead, these same businesses are now being rewarded to clean up after NOLA, while paying workers minimal wages. We are not going to increase taxes, but BORROW money to repair the damage, which means that many generations to come will be repaying the loans that this administration initiated. And the $$$$ keeps rolling in for these evil people.

HOW TO DENY HALLIBURTON, BECHTEL, GE, BLACKWATER MERCENARIES, FLUOR, etc. OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY? IS IT POSSIBLE?

[TahitiNut]

12. Everything and everyone is mere 'collateral damage' ...

... as they follow their insatiable appetites for power, wealth, and privilege. (Bulls have nothing against china.)

The quaint notion of "public service" has absolutely no relationship to what these people are doing - it's a completely foreign concept to them, hardly surfacing even in their hypocritical rhetoric. It's all about them - nobody else. Their base truly is the have's and the have-more's - and only the loyal have any say in tactics. The 'paralysis' and delay we saw in the aftermath of Katrina was wholly about self-serving considerations - devoid of any humanitarian impulses of any kind.

[undergroundpanther]

13. Yes I think they are

Because these people are sociopaths ands want to dominate the masses like the theocrats and kings before them. The Bush admmin are morally inferior people and that is why they cannot handle the mases being free of a dominator and dominatiion system at all.

[KT2000]

14. Reminds me of Cultural Revolution

in China. In an effort to destroy the class structure people were taken out of the jobs and professions they knew and put into jobs they knew nothing about.

In this case, government is being destroyed by putting people into positions they know nothing about, so when people turn to that agency or office, they are stymied and give up.

[Enraged_Ape]

15. Bush's only goal: Create a nation (and world) of slaves

The man himself is an absolute idiot, but he is, as they say, a "useful idiot", for all of the hyperwealthy and powerful that really pull the strings in this world.

George W. is the perfect avatar for the wishes for "the powers that be". He is absolutely amoral, as is his entire family. No suffering, no indignity, no outrage to any human would ever trouble the conscience of the Bushes for a second. But Dubya also has the added advantage of being dumb as a rock. No original thought ever enters his head. He must rely solely on other evil people to tell him what to do every single second of the day. He excels at being dumb and uninformed. It's the only thing at which he excels.

I really believe that the empowered heads of all the multinational corporations of the world have looked upon our country with contempt for many decades, because we once had such a high standard of living in comparison to the rest of the world. They are desperately trying to change that, and as fast as they possibly can. With the help of their chosen Dubya, they are succeeding spectacularly.

[Cookie wookie]

16. There is plenty of evidence to back up this theory

And without a democratic Republic, the filthy rich can basically do whatever they want to the people. The bush administration is moving things toward a police state, moving in the military, the gov as it would exist would have all corrupt judges and all the weapons stockpiles. So how would the people fight it? And the people, everyone would be forced to work for the rich corporations without any protections like environmental laws, labor unions, food safety, healthcare, and on and on.

That's been their goal since Reagan and they've made great progress. All the idiots who've been defending and supporting them and still do, are destroying our country, our democracy and all hopes for the future of all our children.

I've never thought * was ignorant. Everything they have done is carefully orchestrated. FEMA underfunded and run by incompetents - then the stupid American people will turn over more power to * and to the Pentagon and take disaster response out of the hands of civilians and militarize it. Only one step from there.......

Would anyone think this is preposterous if I was describing any South American country in this way?

Of course their hideous plan will never succeed, but if this isn't stopped soon, within the next 10 years the US will look more and more like we've taken a time machine back to feudal/barbarian days.

[tularetom]

18. Maybe some in the admin would like to

but I can't believe bush is capable of planning and carrying through on such a scheme. In a way I hope that is what he's trying to do becasue he's fucked up everything else he tried so there's no reason to believe he wouldn't fuck this up also.

[Cookie wookie]

22. On his own, I agree that he couldn't.

IMO: he is being used as a tool in the process to destroy our democratic republic and is a willing collaborator.

BTW: Anyone else think his face is looking more and more like the portrait of Dorian Gray?

[CrispyQ]

25. The dim son is merely a puppet --

PNAC is pulling his strings. And that group is smart & clever. Their faults, which may eventually bring them down, are arrogance & greed beyond belief.

[jmatthan]

20. Do you really think you have a Government NOW?

eom

[TwilightZone]

23. Not the entire government, just the social programs.

He can't get rid of the entire government, because that would cut into the profits of Halliburton and his other cronies.

But, I certainly think that he couldn't care less about Medicare, SS, education, the environment, etc.

[CrispyQ]

24. They are destroying the government & selling off the Commons

for pennies on the dollar to their rich corporate buddies.

A brief primer for those who have forgotten 5th grade social studies, the Commons are:

Our air
Our water
Septic systems
Transportation routs
Educational systems
Radio & TV spectrums
National health care (in every developed nation in the world except the richest one!)

and the most important of all . . . OUR GOVERNMENT!

Our founding fathers wanted to create a common institution -- our government -- owned by its own citizens, answerable to its own citizens & authorized to exist & continue to exist solely "by the consent of the governed."

We are entering what Thom Hartmann calls corporate feudalism. He states: "When the wealthiest in a society take over government & then weaken it so it no longer can represent the interests of the people, the transition has begun into a new era of feudalism."

Feudalism doesn't mean the end of government, but the subordination of government to the interests of the feudal lords -- CEOs, corporate officers, shareholders. Once the rich & powerful gain control of the government, they turn it upon itself, usually first eliminating its taxation process as it applies to themselves.

Sounds eerily familiar, doesn't it?

[proud patriot]

26. Raises hand

The bush team is an excellent Demolition team.

IMO
they are very good at destroying things, kinda of like
the opposite of the midas touch . Instead of turning
things to gold things turn to crap.

27. doesn't power attract the sociopaths

like Rove, Cheney and Bush. I think this might be a periodic thing that happens to societies where the government gets overtaken by thugs and we will have to really dig ourselves out of this one. I feel like our senators and congress people should be some kind of a shield to our society from this kind of tyranny, but apparently not.

[cassiepriam]

30. with this brand of sociopaths it was about money...

They only wanted power to obtain as much money as
possible, all the rest was a smokescreen. It is about
greed.

[GOPFighter]

28. Nah!

The Presidency was just another lark for the rich frat-boy and the government is just a plaything. What do you get a poor little bored rich boy that has everything? Why a government, of course.

Spoiled bratshit

[YapiYapo]

29. Ruppert "US economy will collapse by December 2005"

"It is Ruppert's opinion that the US economy will collapse by December 2005 (and this was before the hurricane tragedy that just happened in Louisiana and Mississippi). As usual, Mike Ruppert, has much of interest and importance to say."

http://www.suesupriano.com/article.php?&id=81

Tinfoil Theory or not ?

[leftofthedial]

31. yep

they screw everything up

spend more and more and more

create disaster after disaster

spend more and more and more

and sit back knowing that a chunk of that spending ends up in their own pockets

it's a scam

but they have the true wack-job gummint haters on their side.

33. take me to your leaders

I saw this on another website blog, and had to re-post it, it was so funny.


BLIND LEADERS

Passengers on a plane are waiting for the flight to leave. The entrance opens, and two men walk up the aisle, dressed in pilot uniforms. Both are wearing dark glasses. One is using a seeing-eye dog, and the other is tapping his way up the aisle with a cane.

Nervous laughter spreads through the cabin, but the men enter the cockpit, the door closes, and the engines start.

The passengers begin glancing nervously, searching for some sign that this is just a little practical joke. None is forthcoming. The plane moves faster and faster down the runway, and people at the windows realize that they're headed straight for the water at the edge of the airport.

As it begins to look as though the plane will never take off, that it will plow into the water, screams of panic fill the cabin. But at that moment, the plane lifts smoothly into the air.

Up in the cockpit, the co-pilot turns to the pilot and says, "You know, Bob, one of these days, they're going to scream too late, and we're all gonna die."

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/012405.html


:rofl:

[milkyway]

34. The subversion of the federal government has been republican policy for 25

years.

[guinivere]

35. The shrub is just the puppet.

Rove and Cheney are out to destroy it, and make as much money as possible while they do it.

[pinto]

36. I think dismantling social programs is the agenda. These aren't "small"

government Republicans. Federal growth and spending has mushroomed under the Bush administration. It's a reallocation of Federal funds. And a reallocation of Federal influence on a massive scale. Not an annihilation of the Federal government.

And, more to the point of your post - I think this is considered "business as usual" in this administration, to appoint cronies to posts regardless of qualifications. It is a norm for these guys, and not seen as unethical or out-of-the-ordinary. The Federal government is their vehicle, not their nemesis.

[Beam Me Up]

37. Lets call it what it is: TREASON.

The Bush cabal is doing everything it can to undermine this Republic from the inside out. They don't care how many lives it takes.

[mwb970]

38. If he isn't, what is he doing then?

It sure looks like the objective is to completely destroy the government and the military. As I always fantasize about asking a Bushbot, "What would a bad president do?"

[mandyky]

39. It's the GOP as a whole

Grover Norquist has said they wanna pare it down so it is small enough to drown in a bathtub, supposedly. Unfortunately it is not just GWB. What we as Dems have to do is point out the results of what the GOP has done so far and hope American voters get a clue.

[applegrove]

40. They want to change our relationship to government and see it

as mean & useless. So that we will turn our love to the corporations.

[killbotfactory]

41. I don't think, I know

It's called "starve the beast".

[annabanana]

43. nominated...some good, big picture posts here.. . .n/t

[VOX]

44. Trash it to fuck-all; allow a Dem in '08 to take the heat; return in 2012

I can almost see this as if it's already happened. :scared:

For the next three years, * and the PNAC Boys run the government into the ground, rack up the Debt from Hell, and generally scorch the earth.

Then, they allow a "patsy" Democrat to win the presidency in '08, and blame the fallout of **all** right-wing escapades from 2001-2008 on this person.

They return to office in 2012, and pick up where they left off. :evilfrown:

BTW, I'll be happy as hell if this scenario doesn't come to pass.