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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:13 AM
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cspan caller: 'how could all 'those people' abandon their children'?
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 06:26 AM by mopaul
fucking moron said there are 3000 missing children, and then says 'how could they leave their children behind, how could they save themselves and not their children? fucking moron, no one abandoned their children you idiot, they were swept away, drowned, lost, crushed and herded around like cattle.

fucking white racist heartless republican ---sucker
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:16 AM
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1. It's good for those children to be "abandoned", it teaches them
self-reliance. :sarcasm:
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:17 AM
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3. Spoken like a true...
Libertarian.
:sarcasm:
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:26 AM
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7. If only those working mothers could have afforded childcare...
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:16 AM
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2. So many "Santorum types"...
really think the majority stayed to "ride out" the storm out of choice.

What friggin. Blame the victims and run cover for the chimp is their theme.

:mad:
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:43 AM
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11. First impressions
The news people at first DID give this impression very albeit with little depth. The flood got deeper but the news gurus' minds didn't. It missed what was being down, the scale, the communications to the populace, the uppermost crime. It was prone to that interpretation born from Nagin's last exasperated effort to urge people to safety. It did no research or insight into what had been warned about for years. It was surprised by the devastation, surprised by the gutted fed response, surprised by Nero Bush, surprised by poverty and racism, surprised by their own feelings.

Call me floating around the fringes of MSM, but the little that blurbed through gave some sort of impression of a bunch of city folk excitedly partying down at the Dome thinking the storm must blow over. It had barely a shred of the sense of what was going on and I can imagine the redder the news outlet the more indifferent to reality and the more prone to that impression. Thy fiddled with the Emperor.

The presence of shocked and weeping reporters(still incapable of getting a handle on what was actually going on) getting their feet wet in chaos distracts the populace from the failure of the news organizations. The cameras pointed at the truth carried raw power. The words of the media as usual were lost in raw sewage, unable to dispel the myths seeded by their own slant and incompetence.

And when it comes to holding murderous, deliberate incompetents turned exploitive vultures accountable? As incoherent as W in dialog with a normal human being.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:17 AM
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4. Seems to me the Bush parents abandon their children, otherwise....
their children would not be so screwed up.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:24 AM
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5. Made my blood boil....
I'm sure some parent's lost their lives saving their children.
Damn bunch of ignorant callers, every day.:grr:
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:24 AM
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6. Wow, just fucking wow.
Is that the next meme? Are C-span callers THAT fucking stupid, or is this just one of the many faces of Rove?
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:37 AM
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9. the new christians, screw the poor, they're on their own, i got mine
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:28 AM
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8. Many were forced to be separated by officials
Officials did things like put children on one bus and parents on another, if at all.

DHS / FEMA has a web site called http://ready.gov but guess which of the Business or Kids links is ready and which is not ready for Preparedness month (September)?
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:38 AM
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10. Taken by helicopter away from their parents
then dumped out on a road and the parents never gone back for.

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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:02 AM
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12. abandon their children?
Geeze.
So many exactly as you said China_cat. Rooftop rescues, only so much room. What are you gonna do? Send the kids to 'safety' first, of course.

I would do the same - wouldn't almost any parent do anything to save their child, including the possibility of giving up their own lives? Hoist them into a helicopter, shove them on a bus - whatever means of escape was available.

and there's so many other reasons families became separated in the chaos. Here's one with a happy ending:


Ty-Ray is all smiles when he is reunited with his mother. (Photograph by NCMEC)

Eleven-month-old Ty-Ray left Lafayette, Louisiana, after Hurricane Katrina hit with his mother and aunt but soon became separated during the evacuation. His mother was directed to on a bus headed to San Antonio, while his aunt carried Ty-Ray onto another bus. While on the bus his aunt fainted and Ty-Ray was taken out of her arms and separated from her. When Ty-Ray’s mother arrived in San Antonio and saw neither her sister nor her son she became distraught. No one knew who took Ty-Ray or where he and his aunt were. The mother met a Team ADAM consultant in San Antonio, and he helped her find Ty-Ray, who had arrived at a shelter in Louisiana. Ty-Ray and his mother were reunited five days after the evacuation.
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=2114&PageId=2088

abandon their children - what an utterly stupid statement.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:04 AM
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13. you know how 'they' are, they always abandon their kids
it's so comfortable being utterly stupid
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:19 AM
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18. Has anyone ever looked into that? I tell the story all the time. People
are really shocked.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:53 AM
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25. Not that I know of.
If it's being looked at, it certainly isn't being told.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:06 AM
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14. Let's Find 'Em A Roof
Those Repugnicans are soooooo much smarter and tougher and braver than us mere mortals. I think it'd be fitting to take all those who voted for Asshat last year and have them spend three or four days without food, water, electricity, flood out their first two floors and let 'em sit on the roof waiting for their savior to stop playing guitar and eating cake.

What is it with these selfish assholes...are they that ignorant? Guess so. Congratulations...the dumbing down of America has been accomplished.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:10 AM
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16. some kids/infants were handed forward to be rescued-and parent(s)
left behind to save the kids. There were scenes of this on TV.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:16 AM
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17. Some Of These Stories Have Been Heartbreaking
Imagine waking up and your home is flooding quickly with water...you have no clue what's going on. There's no power and nothing but darkness. Total confusion.

Some of those missing kids were plucked off roofs by helicopters and taken to one location, while their parents ended up in another. Or in the mess that was the Superdome/COnvention Center, they were seperated there. The ones I found most maddening were the large number of infants, 2, 3 and 4 years olds...little ones lost in the shuffle.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:10 AM
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15. And just where were their imported nannies during all this?????
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:29 AM
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19. I'm surprised a Republican would care enough to call.
After all, they weren't fetuses.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:05 AM
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20. The stupidity is jaw-dropping.
And what you said.

Peace
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:09 AM
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21. They need to watch Dr. Zhivago
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 08:10 AM by gollygee
I have nightmares about being separated from my daughter. I'd never leave her but I know that sometimes families get separated in dire circumstances.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:50 AM
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22. kick for the uncompassionate, unconservatives
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:39 AM
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23. I'm adding this one to the slander collection...
That spiteful cow! Lord, please send someone to kick her ass!
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:44 AM
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24. There was a CNN interview w/ a guy who took 18 babies from the projects...
In a boat. It was the most amazing thing I ever saw. He said their mothers handed them over to him to take them to safety and the moms stayed behind. The guy was then on the interstate with no help taking care of 18 kids.

I HATE REPUBLICANS!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:55 AM
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26. Until circumstances beyond their control force that unthinkable scenario
upon them, that is. THESE people(I use the term loosely) should really stop and think before passing judgment where they have no experience, nor knowledge of.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:04 PM
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27. Exactly
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 11:28 PM by Art_from_Ark
There are any number of circumstances, even under ideal conditions, where children can be separated from their parents. In a disaster situation like this, the odds of becoming separated are compounded exponentially. I think of that poor woman who saw her 13-year-old daughter and other family members swept away by the flood, and wonder how many other times that was repeated.

May all the missing children be found and reunited with their families.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:23 PM
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28. I visited Germany in 1967--22 years after the war
At that time, there were still posters of people looking for lost children or now-adult people looking for their parents, in both cases, the families having been separated during bombing raids or evacuations.
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tamtam Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:32 AM
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29. Stupid racist ass
Of course we all know what he means by "those people" geesh. I'm sure some of those parents are in some other location or dead. I hate to say it so bluntly but we all know that with all those kids missing parents some of those parents are deceased. I cannot imagine having to lift my children to safety only to realize that I'm not going to make it out alive. Of course I would save my children first what parent wouldn't?

I'm not surprised at the animosity and the desperate attempts to make the Katrina victims into monsters. These people just wont stop their hate is eating at them. Sometimes I think they are feeling so damn guilty because they hate so much but then I have to smack myself back into reality. People like that c-span caller are just vile pukes content to be hateful. I wonder what they shoot themselves up with to sleep at night?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:46 AM
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30. How could a President abandon millions of people
in three states.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:50 AM
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31. Uh...I think it was the reverse, dipshit.
I think "those people" probably put their child on a bus, helicopter, etc., and are now looking for them, seeing as they were separated. I won't say no one abandoned a child, but I think the vast majority were simply separated.

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:52 AM
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32. God, how I hate these stupid, ill-informed, racist fuckheads!
*screams*

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:57 AM
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33. They also mainly said, "Please save my child" and put them on buses and
in rescuer's arms.

The caller has no clue
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 05:41 AM
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34. any fool knows the truth, but they ain't just any fools
they are so filled with hatred toward black americans they can barely hide it.
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