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Benbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:28 AM
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Blackwater mercenaries deployed in NO - accountable only to President
- whatever "accountable" means in this context - and with powers of arrest. See Truth Out blog and comments section on Interdictor blog.


Blackwater Mercenaries Deploy in New Orleans
By Jeremy Scahill and Daniela Crespo
t r u t h o u t | Report Saturday 10 September 2005


http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/091005A.shtml


Blackwater mercenaries are some of the most feared professional killers in the world and they are accustomed to operating without worry of legal consequences. Their presence on the streets of New Orleans should be a cause for serious concern for the remaining residents of the city and raises alarming questions about why the government would allow men trained to kill with impunity in places like Iraq and Afghanistan to operate here. Some of the men now patrolling the streets of New Orleans returned from Iraq as recently as 2 weeks ago.

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That raises a key question: under what authority are Blackwater's men operating? A spokesperson for the Homeland Security Department, Russ Knocke, told the Washington Post he knows of no federal plans to hire Blackwater or other private security. "We believe we've got the right mix of personnel in law enforcement for the federal government to meet the demands of public safety." he said.

But in an hour-long conversation with several Blackwater mercenaries, we heard a different story. The men we spoke with said they are indeed on contract with the Department of Homeland Security and the Louisiana governor's office and that some of them are sleeping in camps organized by Homeland Security in New Orleans and Baton Rouge. One of them wore a gold Louisiana state law enforcement badge and said he had been "deputized" by the governor. They told us they not only had authority to make arrests but also to use lethal force. We encountered the Blackwater forces as we walked through the streets of the largely deserted French Quarter. We were talking with 2 New York Police officers when an unmarked car without license plates sped up next to us and stopped. Inside were 3 men, dressed in khaki uniforms, flak jackets and wielding automatic weapons. "Y'all know where the Blackwater guys are?" they asked. One of the police officers responded, "There are a bunch of them around here," and pointed down the road.

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"When they told me New Orleans, I said, 'What country is that in?,'" said one of the Blackwater men. He was wearing his company ID around his neck in a carrying case with the phrase "Operation Iraqi Freedom" printed on it. After bragging about how he drives around Iraq in a "State Department issued level 5, explosion proof BMW," he said he was "just trying to get back to Kirkuk (in the north of Iraq) where the real action is." Later we overheard him on his cell phone complaining that Blackwater was only paying $350 a day plus per diem. That is much less than the men make serving in more dangerous conditions in Iraq. Two men we spoke with said they plan on returning to Iraq in October. But, as one mercenary said, they've been told they could be in New Orleans for up to 6 months. "This is a trend," he told us. "You're going to see a lot more guys like us in these situations."

If Blackwater's reputation and record in Iraq are any indication of the kind of "services" the company offers, the people of New Orleans have much to fear.


From the Interdictor blog entry for 10 Sept 2005 19:29
http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/


Anyway, when I tell you that these guys are armed, I mean they're carrying stuff that I didn't even know the US had in its arsenal as far as small arms go. <Elsewhere, Interdictor has said that he had spent six years in the US special forces.> And full body armor too. The two Marshalls reported that the high end physical security guys were making $500+ per day while he and his buddies were making about $300 per day.


Some commentators on the Interdictor blog think that the security is there to protect the contents of the bank vaults. One who says her husband is a corporate banker and she worked in retail branch banking for 17 years says, "Many people wealthy people in the south tend to purchase South African Rand which is priced by the year that it was issued. The 1962 to 1965 paper un-circulated is valued at about $25.00 to our one dollar. Nothing prevents this money was being put back into circulation by spending it......its all non traceable! ...

The safe deposit boxes have more cash value then the branch cash vault! Usually a main branch vault has a cash drawer of a minimum of $750,000 to $2,000,000 in paper and coin. ... If someone or some group were to hit the banks in NOLA, the money loss would devastate the economy in that area and elsewhere. FDIC would freak out! Just imagine using the money on the black market for weapons to use against the USA!"

So I think that we will go on being told that there are terrorists in NO until all the bank safe deposit boxes have been evacuated to safety. :-(

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:37 AM
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1. A private army for a public tragedy...Impeach them all!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:38 AM
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2. Is this a shadowrun adventure? sadly no
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 04:46 AM
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3. And who is paying these mercenaries...
When will congress get off its collective jingoistic butt and cut the funds for these sociopaths.
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Oerdin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 05:19 AM
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4. Calling them mercenaries is just stupid.
They're basically highly paid security guards. Mercenaries go off and take part in military operations while the Blackwater guys (and others) get hired by private companies to guard their compounds in dangerous locations. There is a big difference.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 06:19 AM
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7. A mercenary is a hired gun. These are hired guns
and not members of a standing force. They are being used as a defacto military force in Iraq and at home now.
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Benbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 06:21 AM
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8. Mercenaries are soldiers who fight for money, regardless of ideological,
national or political considerations.

http://www.blackwaterusa.com/securityconsulting/

Image on home page: four white guys and an Uncle Tom.


Our mission is to provide the client with veteran military, intelligence and law enforcement professionals with demonstrated field operations performance tempered with mature experience in both foreign and domestic requirements. We employ only the most highly motivated and professional operators, all drawn from various U.S. and international Special Operations Forces, Intelligence and Law Enforcement organizations.


Soldiers. Privatised army. I gather that US military are not allowed to be used against US citizens; using Blackwater usa - founded in 1998 by former Navy Seals, according to this web site article "For God, country and wallet: America's privatised armies are here to stay"

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/04/02/1080544691675.html

- is getting around that, by the look of it.

Next stop: military dictatorship.

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 06:31 AM
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10. They are fighting to protect an illegitimately installed government
not to uphold the laws or constitution of this nation so they are mercenaries.
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Benbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 06:12 AM
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5. The US taxpayer n/t
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 06:15 AM
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6. We need to hit the Congress hard on this one.
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Benbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 06:22 AM
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9. A privatised army for the President - the beginning of the end? n/t
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 06:57 AM
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11. And we believe what Blackwater security says because...?
I think these are all just muscle hired by private citizens and maybe some businesses. They're just saying they "work for the governor/Homeland Security" because:

1) Pretending to have an official status gives them a woody

2) It gives them an air of legitimacy when they hassle people

3) Scores them free food/beverage/supplies from aid stations and legitimate soldiers and law enforcement.

This can be hampered by the Governor stating outright that the state has not deputized and private security firms, that anyone saying so is lying, and that people walking the streets (but not private property) with heavy firearms will be arrested and disarmed.
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