Thom Hartmann coming to AAR!

[clbuck]

No joke...

http://www.airamericaradio.com/thomhartmannpage/

Looks like Franken is going to go bye-bye, or else his time slot is moving...

This is the best decision AAR has ever made...

[Cassandra]

1. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now I don't have to choose. Sometimes Franken has guests I want to hear, so I catch up with Thom later.

[Gabi Hayes]

2. sux for ME.....I have sirius

I'm really getting pissed at them

no replacement for AAR, and they have THREE RW stations, including some ABC radio BS, which is all wingnut

[klyon]

10. I am getting upset also. I guess I could get XM also.

very disappointed
Can I get my prepaid money back if I cancel?

KL

[Rosco T.]

19. Yes, XM refunds pro-rated if you cancel.... n/m

[still_one]

23. I cancelled my sub to Sirius 3 weeks ago, and I got my refund

[klyon]

143. Thanks I'm getting close

any market on e-bay for equipment?

KL

[liberalnurse]

39. Me too...I have Sirius....but....

I get local AA here in Ohio. I can have the best of both worlds.

[Gabi Hayes]

80. yeah, but is it Cincinnatti or Columbus? I get 1530 at night, and they

SUCK....Lionel, then maybe an hour of Malloy, then RELIGION all night

my AAR goes off at dusk, and they have fatso instead of Randi, and NO Majority Report at all

[Hun Joro]

124. I know...I cancelled Sirius when AAR left. n/t

[libnnc]

3. happy-happy joy-joy, happy-happy joy-joy!!

[marbuc]

4. They are listed for the same time slot

What gives?

[LTR]

7. They're launching a separate syndication division

Keeping their fingers in a few pies.

http://ltradio.blogspot.com/2005/09/aar-branches-out-signs-hartmann.html

No time slot changes, but they're going into actual syndication.

[shireen]

11. i wonder if Franken is pissed ...

Thom is my favorite talk show host, light-years ahead of Franken in so many ways. Now that he's on AAR's syndication network, more people are going to discover him and go, "wow!"

[NYCGirl]

30. Why would he be pissed? This means AAR makes more money. NT

[Eric J in MN]

50. Yes, but wouldn't he prefer if they put their first show

for single-show syndication in someone else's time slot?

[NYCGirl]

59. Maybe if there was another comedian, but Hartmann's show is very

different.

Franken's been in show business a LONG time. He understands these things.

[demo dutch]

146. Anyone has to be better than Al

[drbtg1]

135. That makes me think Hartman can still stay on Sirius

Interesting article. Sounds like this is a new venture outside the XM-exclusive agreement. (Rosco T., do your sources tell you anything about that?)

Actually, this new venture, to expand, have a quality bullpen of substitute hosts, and possibly corner the market on liberal talk, sounds like the smartest business move AAR has made since...well, this is probably the only smart business move AAR has made.

[CanOfWhoopAss]

5. I bet Franken is going to run for the Minnesota Senate Seat '06

[Eric J in MN]

53. 2008 maybe. He already said he won't run in 2006. (nt)

nt

[never_get_over_it]

62. Are you sure

the Frankens just bought a house in MN - I thought that was in order to gear up for a Senate run - to replace Mark Dayton who isn't running again.

[NYCGirl]

63. Franken wants specifically to take the seat from Coleman. NT

[never_get_over_it]

72. Because of Wellstone

that would make sense

[NYCGirl]

75. Exactly. On the set of his Sundance show, Al has a photo of Wellstone

on the wall so it's right over his shoulder when he's doing the broadcast.

[Eric J in MN]

70. Yes, I'm sure. Al Franken announced on the air shortly after

Mark Dayton announced that he wasn't running for re-election that he won't run in 2006 because he wants to help Air America.

Franken is moving to Minnesota in January in preparation for a possible 2008 run.

[ikojo]

104. Franken is hardly the Democrat Wellstone was...

When I saw Al Franken in Clayton MO a couple of years ago he said he was a DLC Democrat. Maybe he's changed but I doubt it.

[Prodemsouth]

112. Provide proof of that-please? Instead of of just taking your word

for it.

[ikojo]

121. I did not tape the speech at the booksigning

but he did admit to be a DLC type Dem.

I googled Franken DLC and found this among the comments following an interview Franken did with Buzzflash.

http://www.bluebus.org/archives/000297.php

Nice blog (from a fellow ultra Doors fan, and pretty liberal too). I missed the Franken/O'Reilly interview, but i've been reading about it in the blogosphere and it keeps striking me how smart Franken is, and yet, he identifies himself as a DLC-style democrat...what gives with that?

Posted by: Jonathan at June 13, 2003 11:11 PM
Thank-you very much! I'm not sure why Franken identifies with the DLC, they certainly don't fit his brand of liberalism...

Posted by: Lizard Queen at June 16, 2003 09:47 PM

http://www.realdems.org/columns.htm

While Franken is a self-proclaimed DLC Democrat, the Air America line-up also includes progressives such as Janeane Garafalo and Mike Malloy (Malloy's stated mission involves ridding the Democratic Party of DLC influence).

[K-W]

130. He mistakenly thinks the DLC is on the same side as progressives.

He puts Clinton on a pedestal and to him that is the DLC. Franken is always trying to be as inclusive as possible and identifies himself with the DLC.

But he also identifies himself as a Wellstone Democrat.

If you want the truth you can look at his actual opinions, which show that he is a progressive who is simply wrong on some issues because he is niave.

Since he says he is both a DLC democrat and a Wellstone Democrat, why would you conclude from this that he is not a Wellstone Democrat, and is a DLC Democrat?

Isnt it much more likely he is confused about what one or both of those groups actually stand for?

[Prodemsouth]

145. Haha, I need better sources. I don't believe Franken is DLCer

because of the way he goes after Credit Card Companies and other economic issues. I heard him described as between Wellstone and the DLC. Wellstone is his hero. He gave one of the best tributes to Wellstone in his book.

[Mizmoon]

148. I once heard him say that Democracy Now! was too radical for him

To each his own, but I didn't really like that comment.

[K-W]

152. Yep, a good example of where Franken goes badly wrong.

its important for us to remember that it takes a certain level of awakening for most people to get past the biases that our society ingrains in them.

Franken is still carrying many mainstream liberal biases.

[Prodemsouth]

156. AL is a supporter of the state of Israel. Democracy Now seems

biased against Israel to many including those who have been very critical of Sharon. Supporting Israel does not mean he is DLC which is what I am commenting on. Much of the Franken bashing is motivated by the Israel Palestine conflict. I am just asking people to be honest and not pretend they are motivated by using terms such as too moderate or DLC.

[K-W]

151. He has claimed to be a DLC democrat.

But as you point out, he has also claimed to be a Wellston democrat.

So clearly Al believes there is no contradiction between the two. So to actually find out where he stands you have to go off his actual positions on issues.

My take on his actual positions is that he holds progressive values, but is sometimes on the wrong side of issues due to trusting the wrong ifnformation and the wrong people.

He has a certain mainstream bias, but he tries to be a good progressive and to me that is what matters.

[K-W]

128. Or maybe you could look at all the facts instead of jumping to conclusions

The key here is that AL buys into the DLC's progressive rhetoric.

Al is niave. And there is no point in denying it. And this does, on many issues lead him astray. He absolutely has too much faith in establishment democrats. He absolutely puts too much faith in establishment intellectuals. He absolutely goes too far in trying to be fair to conservatives.

But to derive from this that he shares the values that those of us who arent so niave know are behind the DLC is folly. For his flaws Franken is an earnest progressive. He aspires to be a Wellstone Democrat even if he sometimes falls short.

[Prodemsouth]

157. No conservatives don't like him. If you want go after someone

for being too soft on conservatives go after Jerry Springer. "Rush is a Big Fat Idiot" was soft on Conservatives? Bullshit. He refutes them with rock solid research. Makes all the conservative talking heads look like complete idiots who don't know what they are talking about. Is Al perfect? NO he uses too many talking heads. Tom Olphiant annoys me. I wish he would do more exchanges with callers. (But the research showed conservatives would be too afraid to call him.) No he does not sound like he is about to cry through out his show. I like Malloy and Randi too, but Malloy loses it a little too much for me but I still listen. Randi engages in hyperbole which sometimes causes her to state incorrect information. She said Al Gore was not allowed in NO when he was. My point all of them are not perfect I am willing to accept them warts and all. AAR is better as is than Defeatist Elitist NPR which has to watch what they say or talk in coded language because Delay et all can cut their funds.

[Eric J in MN]

155. did he use the term "DLC?" nt

nt

[CanOfWhoopAss]

99. He realizes the urgency we now face based on NOLA and election fraud.

He may realize that it is best to grab the first available seat and then help someone else get Wellstone's. He may be preparing for '08 but if he loses '06 he can apply lessons learned to '08. If he loses '08 another seat doesn't open until '12 and the problem compounds. If a Dem is the incumbent for the '12 seat then he has to wait until '14 and that means he may never run. He'll be well into his 60's by then.

I don't think he ever submitted to election fraud possiblities publicly but I don't doubt he has questions privately.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

106. He just bought a home in Deluth. nt

[nyhuskyfan]

6. I guess it means one of two things...

Al is going to get into politics and wants to leave the station now to focus on his new goals.

or

Jerry Springer is abandoning the radio idea and Al is moving into that slot.

[Parrothead Terp]

9. Syndication

They are going to allow other staions to synidacte programming. This could me you have AAR with Franken and some other station picks up Hartman in syndication.

[Rosco T.]

21. both AL and Jerry are considering '06 runs (Senate/Gov respectively)..n/m

[NYCGirl]

28. Coleman's seat (the one Al Franken is thinking of running for) isn't open

until 08.

[Rosco T.]

32. I meant '08.. finger fumble.. but as soon as he declares he's going to run

I believe he has to get off the air??

[marbuc]

44. The Fairness Doctrine is gone

thanks to Reagan. He isn't legally compelled to give it up, but logistically it could be difficult. They are moving the show to MN aren't they? So who knows. I'm not a big Thom Hartman fan, I'll be sad when Franken leaves. I hope they can find a better replacement.

[Prodemsouth]

108. Self Delete-

[Prodemsouth]

110. Hartman's show is boring. That is why they call it no boring

zone. They try to tell you hey this is not boring when it is boring. Typical maketing to overcome a weakness. I felt like I was in college again listening to a mildly interesting professor. It will not make interesting radio. I don't like hearing right wing bullshit (I already know what they are going to say)and even if it is being refuted. When Hartman is talking half of America will not understand what the hell he is saying. Look at his picture, what a stereotype!! Typical old school liberal looks from the eighties. He looks like the father from "Family Ties".

[cascadiance]

46. I'm not sure about that... Nancy Skinner stayed on Doug Stephan

I think while she was running for state senate in Illinois...

http://www.ilsenate.com/candidate.asp?ID=19

Practically speaking though, it might be harder for Franken to be on full time if he's trying to campaign at the same time. Perhaps they'll move him to a weekend show if he's too busy to do a monday-friday slot.

[Ilsa]

8. I love Thom Hartmann!

It'll be great for me to pick him up at 11 am.

[shireen]

12. Thom's an energizer bunny!

Before the national show, he does a 3-hour local show in KPOJ.. 6 hours of non-stop radio!

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. Cool! I like Thom

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[kansasblue]

14. link to Tom

http://www.thomhartmann.com/

[mzmolly]

15. As an Al Franken fan I'd like more info.

:(

[Rainscents]

18. You would really love Thom also!!! He really is great... very educational!

[shireen]

22. have you heard Thom?

He's very very good. I totally love his work. And a nice guy too.

Franken will still be on the air, this is just a syndication deal. But I suspect many people will switch to Thom once they hear his show.

[mzmolly]

26. Franken is doing very well in the TC, I hope they will open up Liberal

talk radio so we can have many choices. But, I don't expect I'll want to give up my Franken for anyone "frankly." ;)

[NYCGirl]

27. I like him, but find that if I'm listening in my office or at lunch time,

I can't concentrate on what he's saying. He, IMO, can get a bit pedantic.

[NYCGirl]

25. If you listen to streaming or to those stations with the basic AAR lineup,

Hartmann will be on AAR on Sundays,according to this article:

http://ltradio.blogspot.com/2005/09/aar-branches-out-signs-hartmann.html

AIR AMERICA RADIO is launching a new syndication division to offer shows separate from the network's regular offerings to both Progressive Talk and other talk/music formats. The new AIR AMERICA SYNDICATION's first offering will be KPOJ-A/PORTLAND's THOM HARTMANN's national show, which will be sent out live Noon-3p (ET) weekdays (and will be aired SUNDAY middays on WLIB-A/NEW YORK). JONES MEDIAAMERICA is handling sales for the new venture.

AIR AMERICA RADIO President GARY KRANTZ said, "THOM HARTMANN has shown enormous success in many markets around the country, from SEATTLE to PITTSBURGH. "We are thrilled to have THOM be a part of AIR AMERICA's unmatched line-up of talent and are looking forward to helping him grow in affiliations, audience, revenue, and most importantly, as an important progressive voice in the media landscape."

[Rosco T.]

29. JONES MEDIAAMERICA??? Isn't that Jones Radio? Schultz/Stephanie???

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... :D Sooner than I thought...

[LTR]

35. Jones handles ad sales for AAR

They've had a marketing agreement with them for the last year or so.

Jones sales reps sell airtime for AAR. Thus, AAR doesn't have to deal with running a sales department.

[BrklynLiberal]

88. Maybe he will start out on Sundays and then move to m-f when

Franken goes to work in the Senate.

Right now they play a lot of repeats on Sunday AM or some stupid show called "Satellite Sisters".

[never_get_over_it]

69. Hartman is SO MUCH BETTER than Al Franken

and Hartmann is probably the SMARTEST liberal talk show host out there - he is a brainiac - Al is too moderate for me - I do like a lot of the guest Franken has on - If you like the DLC you'd like Al - if you find the DLC annoying you'll like Thom. Also he has a GREAT spot on Friday - Brunch with Bernie Sanders - only independent member of congress from VT running for Jeffords Senate seat next year I love Bernie Sanders

[NYCGirl]

78. Depends on what kind of show you like. I prefer Franken. And if you

think he's so DLC, how is it that Paul Wellstone was one of his closest friends (and political inspiration)?

[never_get_over_it]

83. Well he is also really good friends with that ditto head guy

he is just too moderate for me - he wouldn't even touch the election issues of 2004 - now some of his caution might be due to his run for the Senate - I have actually sensed him being cautious and have felt that he is doing that because of the Senate run. Lets face it who ever runs against him will comb through those shows to find anything against him.

Don't get me wrong I like Franken and he has great guests except that ditto head guy he makes me crazy - but sometimes Franken frustrates me.

The great thing is we can have both until Al hangs up the program to run for the Senate which I truly hope he wins. Who knows maybe Franken can get the DLC Dems heads out of their asses!!!! or maybe Katrina has done that for us.

I think you will like Thom - as I said he is VERY SMART and I have learned a ton from him

[NYCGirl]

92. As I mentioned above, I've listened to Hartmann, but I prefer Al Franken.

Hartmann, IMO, can be too pedantic. I enjoy entertainment with my politics.

Edited to add: As far as Al and his friendship with Mark Luther, that means nothing to one's politics. I have a dear friend (and former business partner) who's a Republican — we have some interesting conversations, and she actually listens to Al's show and likes it; she confesses great admiration for his research team! She also listens to Morning Sedition and Springer.

[Prodemsouth]

114. As a Franken listener I have to agree with you on the ditto head

guy. And Franken even said most of his listeners hate that segment- but Franken takes apart his right wingers. Franken and a guest really tore apart a guy that recently wrote a Hillary bashing book. Thom Hartman tries to be too much of a college professor. But if you don't like Al for the ditto head segment. Why do you like Thom's polite conversations with his right wing guest? He is boring and I hate his right wing guest. I already know what they are going to say, and he irritates me when tries to come off as an "intellectualoid" when arguing against them. That really brings in the converts- not. Bio even says that he only has right wingers on his show besides Bernie Sanders (I Vermont). So if Al's little ditto head segment bothered you I don't see how you like Thom Hartman.

[Rainscents]

16. I am sooooooooooooo happy!!!

:bounce:

[Rosco T.]

17. Lemme see.. Schultz + Hartmann + (phff) Colmes + Stephanie + Young Turks..

yup... just about enough to fill that second channel :D

[Eric J in MN]

54. On "Air America Minnesota," we get Ed Schultz instead of Randi Rhodes (nt)

nt

[B Calm]

105. Damn, do you get Mike Malloy up there?

[Eric J in MN]

158. Mike Malloy is on Air America Minnesota from 9 PM- midnight,

local time, Mon-Friday.

[Prodemsouth]

150. How about syndicate Jay Marivn - instead of Colmes.

Jay was great when he filled in for Ed. He did Jerry Springer's show for a week. He was much better at dealing with the right wing callers than Jerry. He didn't try to be nice to them, he wasn't rude, but busted their arguments to shreds in short simple to understand sentences- thats what we need. Jerry talks to them like he is running for office, being polite is ok but he is too nice and it makes him look like just another old school liberal push over from the Reagan era.

[Maat]

161. Oh, yeah ... I loved listening to Jay Marvin.

Good idea.

[clbuck]

20. Speaking of KPOJ...

If Franken does indeed drop off the lineup, I wonder how KPOJ's schedule would be like, since they already carry his morning-drive show. I'm sure they're not going to do carry 6 hours of Hartmann in a row.

I'm guessing they'll delay his national show, and put it on at night, which is similar to how KXL (a right-wing station here in Portland) carries both of Lars Larson's shows.

[cascadiance]

42. I wonder if they are setting up Hartmann...

to carry him at the 10:00 PM slot that they now have Malloy delayed to if and when they get Colmes moved over to Ask! or someplace else and have Malloy back in his live slot. Then you'd have THREE hours of Thom Hartmann at 10:00 PM instead of the TWO hours he's "delayed" on that slot on Sirius! Makes a switch for Sirius listeners to XM that much more desirable. Then of course, if and when Al Franken leaves for his political career, Hartmann can be moved to his live slot at 9:00 AM, and something else can be moved to 10:00 PM (Bernie Ward? HOPING!).

Maybe if Sirius decides not to buy off ABC Radio Network, XM can beat them to the punch and buy off rights to KGO radio hosts and get rights to Bernie Ward and Ray Taliafierro too. That would really set up the two station lineup too if that might be a longer term plan.

[Tom Kitten]

60. welcome to DU, CaseyBuck!

from a fellow Portlander...

Yes, Thom is great, we're lucky he does a local show for us...

(ed-sp)

[stevedeshazer]

24. Very, very interesting.

I'm in Portland and listen to KPOJ a lot. It is the FLAGSHIP West Coast AirAmerica station.

Thom Hartmann's local show is GREAT! He started here not long ago, and it took something like, oh, two minutes maybe to win me over.

Franken is running for a Senate seat in Minnesota. He won't be around much longer on radio.

[Eric J in MN]

57. Al Franken will run in 2008, maybe, but not 2006 (nt)

nt

[stevedeshazer]

94. Yes, I know

2008, Coleman.

[bunny planet]

31. OMG, I wrote to them every dayam week suggesting they get Thom on

to replace Franken or especially Jerry Springer. I am thrilled!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great news.

[ourbluenation]

33. Best news I've heard all day! Yippeeeeeee

[NYCGirl]

34. Looks like a new lineup for Seattle's KPTK:

KPTK-AM (1090) is shuffling its weekday lineup to emphasize West Coast hosts beginning Monday. Stephanie Miller's Los Angeles-based show takes over the 6-9 a.m. slot currently held by "Morning Sedition," which moves to 3-5 a.m. Thom Hartmann's show, originating in Portland, takes over the 9 a.m.-noon slot currently held by Al Franken, who moves to 3-6 p.m. Ed Schultz stays at noon-3 p.m., while Randi Rhodes takes the 6-10 p.m. slot and Mike Malloy is heard 10 p.m.-1 a.m.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/tv/239704_radiobeat08.html

[krkaufman]

61. That's cool. Morning Sedition will be live, then, eh?

What about Rachel Maddow? Is she on at 2am, then? Nearly 24 hours of non-repeat programming, if so.

[Rainscents]

66. OMG... That is great!!!! I never listen to AL because I listen to Thom

via internet!!! I am soooooooooooooo happy!!!

[mirandapriestly]

102. oh good, I like Stephanie Miller. I like Morning Sedition, but

it just isn't political enough for me - I want to hear all Bush criticism, all the time!

[mirandapriestly]

103. Franken Does an ad for a mattress where he talks about his new house in

Minnesota. So I think that is where he is going. He is brilliant, but he is way too safe for me.

[benburch]

36. No... Hartmann and Franken will be on simultaneously! nt

[still_one]

40. that is even better

[Darkhawk32]

120. Umm... ex-squeeze me?

[benburch]

137. AAR will also be syndicating shows that are not part of the main network.

Thom's show is the very first of these.

[Darkhawk32]

164. Ah cool. So affiliates will have a more pick-and-choose lineup choice?n/t

[cascadiance]

37. Ah! I feel even better about cancelling Sirius this week!

Now if XM would just get Malloy back on live at night in his live slot 7 PM to 10 PM PST, I'll start subscribing to XM then.

Thom Hartmann's podcast is OK, but podcasting it is a bit more painful to manage through iTunes than other AAR podcasts now without a sub to WhiteRose, and it does include the ads too. If the rumors of Springer leaving are also true, I wonder if Stephanie Miller will get added later to AAR too, though she's more likely to wind up where Schultz went, with the same syndicators.

Sirius I think has just been officially "outed" as a solution for progressive talk listeners. They've sure fallen since the XM announcement. I've think they've slept too long in responding to this deal. I wonder if they are feeling that Howard Stern will "suffice" as a replacement... NOT!

[benburch]

43. Well, a subscription is as little as $1 per month...

We are on a sliding scale; Pay what you think it is worth. The subscription podcast has all ads removed. (a process I do manually)

[cascadiance]

45. Don't get me wrong, I was considering doing that...

I was just playing a wait and see to see if Sirius was going to do something constructive with its lineup that might get me back on Sirius (it doesn't look like it now) or move to XM. Now if Thom Hartmann is carried there, I might get him from there. But if I don't get Thom Hartmann through whatever service, I'm thinking of subscribing. $1 a month sounds worth it. I was hearing from someone else that The Young Turks was around $10 a month, which didn't sound worth it for them, and was extrapolating (without looking closely) that Thom Hartmann would be the same price.

Right now I'm just trying to find a decent piece of hardware to use. I was tempted to get an Alpine unit, as I'm not then locked into either XM or Sirius with it, but they don't have a nice portable unit like Delphi's SkyFi that I might like to run it in the office for basketball season. Now though, with Hartmann coming to AAR, I'm more inclined to just jump on an XM only portable unit.

[benburch]

58. Well, feel free to subscribe for $10 if you like! :-)

We'll take any amount over $1. :D

[krkaufman]

65. Hartmann podcast sans ads

Strange, I'm grabbing Hartmann's show off of WhiteRoseSociety.org, via paid subscription, but it doesn't have any ads.

[benburch]

74. Yes... That is as it should be.

There is a free podcast with the ads.

[bbgrunt]

126. me too.

i got sirius for aar and got royally screwed in july. no way will i get xm unless they put molloy on live time.

[benburch]

38. Thom Hartmann will CONTINUE to be archived at White Rose!

The Thom Hartmann show live and repeat streaming, subscription archive, and free and subscription podcasting will CONTINUE to be available at http://www.WhiteRoseSociety.org even after Thom has joined Air America.

I thank Thom Hartmann and Air America for their courtesy and consideration in this venture.

-Ben Burch
White Rose Society Webmaster
http://www.WhiteRoseSociety.org

[jazzjunkysue]

41. Please explain: 2 AAR's from noon to 3? On what frequency?

Is Thom running on other stations for AAR?

I think he was great while Randi was out. But I don't want to lose Al: He gets all kinds of important people on because of his status. I also really believe that he brings in listeners: Independents and libertarians who trust him to be rolly-polly and silly and soft-focus. Don't get me wrong: I adore and worship Randi, but, not everyone starts out hard-core like me, so, I think he's important as a bridge towards Randi and Jeannine and Sam.

I'd personally like to see springer go. I don't see what he brings to the discussion. He does nothing for bringing on guest talent.

Having heard Marc in person, he's my absolute fav! He's a wild man! He says everything I'm thinking, but, never loses his heart and compassion. He's become an anchor to the station that no one expected. He upstages Al by miles.

You go, Marc!!! Eat the fish!!!

[Eric J in MN]

56. I think that stations which want to change formats will get a choice.

Either buy multiple AAR shows, including Al Franken's.

Or just buy one AAR show: Thom Hartmann's.

[jazzjunkysue]

91. Ok. Thanks. So we'll have to see what wlib does here in NYC.

[NYCGirl]

93. According to an article posted above, WLIB will continue to broadcast

Al Franken weekdays from 12-3, and Hartmann will be broadcast on Sundays.

[checks-n-balances]

107. I love Mark Riley too - they are the best team on radio & I love their sho

Lawton Smalls & Mort & Cardinal Milfington can be a hoot too. Their political guests are also top drawer.

Go, M&M on AAR!!

Love Hartmann too - this is great news!

[Armstead]

47. HERE's THEANSWER

http://www.radio-info.com/mods/board?Post=535113&Board=newstalk

Radio Info.com

All Access:
AIR AMERICA RADIO is launching a new syndication division to offer shows separate from the network's regular offerings to both Progressive Talk and other talk/music formats. The new AIR AMERICA SYNDICATION's first offering will be KPOJ-A/PORTLAND's THOM HARTMANN's national show, which will be sent out live Noon-3p (ET) weekdays (and will be aired SUNDAY middays on WLIB-A/NEW YORK). JONES MEDIAAMERICA is handling sales for the new venture.

AIR AMERICA RADIO President GARY KRANTZ said, "THOM HARTMANN has shown enormous success in many markets around the country, from SEATTLE to PITTSBURGH. "We are thrilled to have THOM be a part of AIR AMERICA's unmatched line-up of talent and are looking forward to helping him grow in affiliations, audience, revenue, and most importantly, as an important progressive voice in the media landscape."

[tsuki]

111. And today is lunch with Bernie. Never miss it.

[Eric J in MN]

48. Thanks. I added this to SpeakSpeak News,

in response to your post:
http://www.speakspeak.org/speak-blog/index.php?p=1116

[oddtext]

49. thom's daughter is friends

with a friend of mine. she told me a while ago that they were looking at thom to place in franken's slot when he runs for senate.

a little, very little, inside dope.

[rocktivity]

51. I think it's for the best that Franken goes if he's serious about running

It's really affected his game--he's turned into this bland, bookish, Ivy League type. He has to be careful what he says and who he hangs around with, and it shows.

Wait a second--the guys at Morning Sedition say they have a big surprise announcement to make tomorrow...

:headbang:
rocknation

[krkaufman]

52. MOST excellent. Hartmann is great.

He really hits on policy basics.

Thanks for the info.

[ShrewdLiberal]

55. I bought a lifetime subscription to Sirius

I'm a Howard Stern fan and shelled out $277 for the receiver and Sportster Boom box and $517 for the lifetime subscription. After 3 years & 4 months of $12.95, the lifetime subscription will have been paid for, and Stern's first contract at Sirius is for 5 years, so I'll get the last 1 year & 8 months for free, plus the rest of my life. I'm 33 years old.

Anyway, when I first turned on Sirius Satellite Radio on May 29th, the lifetime membership offer ended on June 30th. Sirius no longer has a lifetime subscription offer; they only offer 6 months, 1 year, and 2 year subscriptions.

Air America left Sirius in mid-July, and I was kind of bummed out because I only had Web tv Plus and couldn't download the streaming audio at Air America so I couldn't listen to Malloy. About a week ago, I bought a brand new Dell computer, so I've been listening every night to Malloy. Thank God. I guess what I'm trying to say to Sirius subscribers pissed off at losing Thom Hartmann is this. If you can't listen to him on a computer, at least we know he's becoming more successful. He certainly deserves a broader audience. The guy is one intelligent, coherent progressive. He's become my favorite on Liberal TalkLeft. Hopefully, Air America listeners will come to love the guy like so many of his fans. I'll miss him at Sirius, but at least I can listen to him on streaming audio on Air America.

Good luck Thom! Knock those right wing fuckers for a loop!

[Rosco T.]

82. Actually if you check the fineprint on the Sirius agreement...

the "lifetime" is the lifetime of the receiver, not yours :( same as the old TiVo subs... I think I heard that they may transfer it to another receiver one.. but I could be wrong...

[ShrewdLiberal]

90. Lifetime Subscriptions on Sirius allow 4 total receivers

So after the original one I bought, I can buy 3 more. I don't use the receiver in my car, so I think it will last over 10 years. I'm looking to buy a spare romote control on eBay. I've seen spare remotes going for $40.00 to $50.00. Must be lifetime subscribers buying them, or something.

[Rosco T.]

95. ok, wasn't sure... (I hope you live longer than 10 years :) ) n/m

[ShrewdLiberal]

96. :-) So do I. LOL.

That would suck if I am being a non smoker, drinker, drug user as well as being a vegetarian all for nothin'. The point is to live a long and healthy life. If I don't make it, hell, I should've partied it up and had a great time. I quit all that in my teens.

Now I feel like buying a bag of buds and gettin' stoned, while listening to HARD ATTACK on Sirius. LOL.

[in_cog_ni_to]

117. I have a Sirius receiver and boombox with remote I will sell you for CHEAP

CHEAP, CHEAP. Want it? I bought 2 receivers and boomboxes and bought a Lifetime subscription, but never use my Sirius now. I'm hanging on to ONE set just in case AAR goes to Sirius again. :) I'll sell the whole set for $60.00. Anyone want a good deal?

I like having the boomboxes in different rooms. AND, you can run it on batteries and take it wherever you go. I take my new XM boombox in the car to listen to Randi when I pick my son up at school. It works great!

[drbtg1]

134. A few points

1.) Sirius still offers the lifetime subscription. I know their last offer expired 6/30/05, but they renewed the offer to 1/31/06.

http://www.sirius.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Sirius/Page&c=Page&cid=1065475754240&

2.) You could have one radio on "lifetime" and addition radios for $6.99/month for radios 2-4. Even if the lifetime radio breaks, you could still have the $6.99/month radios since satellite radio is a one way system (unlike TIVO).

3.) I've read from a few folks at avsforum.com that you can transfer the lifetime sub to another radio three times for a $75 fee, or for free if the radio is stolen (police report needed). YMMV.

[ShrewdLiberal]

153. Yeah, that's true.

That's what I meant, without the details of the $75.00 transfer fees per receiver transfer. We can change the SIRIUS ID (SID)# on the account three times for $75.00 each time--that's the receiver ID. So over time it would cost a lifetime subscriber another $225.00 total if the three extra receiver IDs (SIDs) were implemented.

I'm 33, so I'll try to make each receiver last 10 years each with moderate use, then by the time I need to actually pay monthly subscription fees again, I'll be in my late 70s or early 80s. Plus, I have the streaming-audio password, so I can listen to Sirius online for free. So no matter what, if I were old and the last receiver went, I'd never report it and just listen to Sirius at home on a computer. I think by then, computers will be so small, we'll be able to carry them in the palm of our hands and clip them on our belts like walkmans, so not having a receiver wouldn't be a problem; albeit, I'm speaking in a counterfactual conditional, or subjunctive conditional, if you prefer. Nonetheless, I think I'm justified in my possible-worlds' senario. It's a pretty good bet that computer technology will progress to my prediction's outcome.

[nc_liberal_lady]

64. Now when is Colmes LEAVING?

After listening to Franken for awhile I ended up back with Thom. He really does provide more insight on issues without so much drama. But then, speaking of drama, when oh when will Malloy get the XM 10 p.m. spot (here on East Coast). I complained via e-mail to XM. Who makes these decisions anyway?

[NYCGirl]

67. Colmes doesn't work for AAR, but has an existing contract with XM

that AAR had to honor. I guess it just depends on when the contract is up.

[krkaufman]

73. Couldn't they just move him to his own channel?

All Alan, all the time!

[NYCGirl]

76. That you'd have to ask XM about, I guess. NT

[nc_liberal_lady]

77. Do they have to keep him on at 10 p.m. too?

It's such a shock to the system to have Majority Report end and suddenly be jolted into Faux land. His topics and guests are beyond sorry, in my opinion.

[ShrewdLiberal]

79. I get Colmes on Sirius LiberalLeft, Channel 144

I get bad vibes listening to Colmes. I get the sense the guy gets off being a punching bag for the neo-handjobs. I mean, what is up with the opening of his show and the right wing nutjobs calling him names, like "commi" and shit. He must be a closet sadomasochist, or something.

[Rosco T.]

84. Correct..... the 'out' that they had with Schultz...

.. was that he was on the old 'ASK' channel when he first started on XM... so they could move him over (and it's REALLY PISSED OFF THE FREEPERS that they stuck DR LAURA over to the AMERICA RIGHT channel and dropped BILL BENNETT and MICHAEL MEDVED).

Now, that being said, there is still a vacant channel after Air American on XM 167 (that is 168).. about 8 weeks ago it lit up BRIEFLY and said AMERICA LEFT, then went away...

Now.. this could very well portend Thom LEAVING SIRIUS, since his program will now be AIR AMERICA and XM has the EXCLUSIVE for SAT radio of AAR (I am not saying this WILL HAPPEN, just that it could be in the wind given the circumstances).

let's see... program XM 168 AMERICA LEFT

Stephanie
Thom
Schultz (move off ASK 165 when he goes to 4 hours... and that's on the place)

Colmes
Young Turks(?? they HAVE been filling in for other AAR hosts)

I'll have to snoop about a bit...

[XOKCowboy]

71. Amen to that

XM needs to dump colmes to ASK or just dump him all together and give Mike his time slot. Our emails helped get Randi on all 4 hrs so I'm going to just keep on sending them asking for Mike.

It's all we can do. Keep the faith.

[nc_liberal_lady]

81. Simple solution - move him to ASK - 10 p.m.

But can't do that because Rollye's there and I kinda like her.

[librechik]

68. damn,does this mean he's leaving Sirius Talk Left?

he's the only one I really like there!

[Rosco T.]

85. Theoratically possible...

since XM is the 'exclusive home' of AAR and he will now be AAR... I don't say that for a certanity, but it is possible.. time will tell.

[BrklynLiberal]

86. That is so cool.

[LincolnMcGrath]

87. It is about damn time!

[stepnw1f]

89. Thom Hartman and Mike Malloy are my Favorites

then Tony Trupiano, Maddow, Sam and Jeneane ROCK, Mark and Mark, etc. I love AAR...

With Thom Hartman, AAR is going to make alot of money. The man is brilliant and knows how to market himself.

[B Calm]

97. Mine too

[ShrewdLiberal]

98. Mine, too

I'm a "truth seeker." From the first time I listened to Malloy, I was hooked. The dude kicks ass. Hartmann is an intellectual's intellectual. His knowledge of unions and trade policy is mind boggling. I love his analyses.

[BlueEyedSon]

113. AND..... much more progressive than Franken

[FreedomAngel82]

100. Are you serious?

For the most part I like Franken and enjoy his show on the Sundance Channel. I like Thom Hartmann too. It should be interesting. I also wish they could get Bernie Ward. I really love him and his passion. Or Stephanie Miller (we need more females!).

[renate]

101. I think we owe Al a HUGE HUGE HUGE debt of gratitude

He was instrumental in getting AAR on the air. That was a life-altering experience for me and, I suspect, many other liberals.

I disagree with him on some major things (specifically, election fraud) but I will cut him much much much slack because he helped bring AAR about. (And I do get such a giant kick out of Katherine. She so rocks.)

On KPOJ in Portland I love Thom but I do miss Morning Sedition, who got bumped from their 6-9 am slot for him--after a bumpy start they really started hitting their stride, and I had many laugh-out-loud moments listening to them. I miss them a lot, actually. But Thom is awesome, no question.

Too much excellence on AAR, that's the problem. Randi used to get on my nerves the way she talked about herself all the time, but that's gotten better... really it breaks my heart to lose anybody on that station just because there are only 24 hours in the day. It's so unfair....!

Anyway, THANK YOU AL and Godspeed in whatever you do.

[BlueEyedSon]

109. OMFG, it's how I listen to AAR at home (streaming!) I always substitute

Hartmann for Franken!

[Norquist Nemesis]

123. Me too!!! This is the BEST NEWS to start the day with!!!

I am thrilled and ecstatic!!! Our local AAR is actually CPT owned by Jones network. So, instead of Randi at her regular time, they run Ed Schultz then Randi. Surprisingly, they also run Mike Malloy. But since they air both Springer and Franken, I'm really, really, really, hoping they'll air Hartmann in the time slot he's taking at AAR.

I know people are listening from around these parts...they call in to Ed Schultz from Naperville/Aurora! Hartmann as lead in to Schultz would be HUGE!

Best decision they've made! :applause:

[in_cog_ni_to]

115. OMG!! That is AWESOME, AWESOME news!

:bounce::bounce:

NOW, GIVE ME MIKE MALLOY LIVE INSTEAD OF TAPE DELAYED AND I WILL BE A HAPPY, HAPPY CAMPER!

I wonder if Franken is leaving to run for office????

[LTR]

116. Here's a new article about it

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntry.asp?hid=130402&pt=todaysnews

Air America Radio has formed Air America Syndication, a separate division designed to offer additional programming and services to both Progressive Talk and other talk/music formats. The announcement was made by CEO Danny Goldberg, president of Air America Radio Gary Krantz and president of Programming Jon Sinton.

Air America Syndication will distribute the nationally-syndicated, The Thom Hartmann Program, and will expand its weekend network line-up of progressive talk beginning this Sunday (September 11).

[Prodemsouth]

118. Lets not kid ourselves here. If Hartmann does a segment on

Israel Palestine and he comes off as too pro Israel; he will be "too moderate," "DLC," or "Air America's worst host" to many of these same posters you see cheering this today.

[KaryninMiami]

119. Great news- I wish they'd move Rachel Maddow to a better time slot also

I've had enough of Al so this is a good thing. He's occasionally good (like when he has interesting guests), but mostly he's pretty annoying. But Rachel has been sub-hosting for an array of different shows these past 2 weeks and she is terrific. I was going to email them about this today since she really deserves to be given a better time slot.

[marbuc]

127. Al is still the best thing going on AAR

He has the best guests, and is the only one that doesn't spend most of his time talking, and trying to prove how smart and knowledgeable he is.

[Maat]

162. I love Rachel too!

I'd love to listen to her on the way to work.

[deutsey]

122. This is GREAT news! I love Hartmann...he deserves a broad, national

audience.

[oc2002]

125. Excelent, I still want to hear Al Franken though.

His show has been a big hit because of his wit and hummor.

[LaPera]

129. Can't wait Hartmann is one of the absolute best, up there with Malloy &

Rhodes!!!

[Festivito]

131. Don't get Tom yet, I like Al a lot, Jerry can go, not Al.

What we have is working, slowly working. I feel we are hanging by a thread, and that thread has lengths that disappear altogether.

Any change scares me.

This change scares me.

[demo dutch]

149. Jerry is liked by a lot of moderates and a slightly older group

[clbuck]

132. From what I can tell...

It appears that Thom Hartmann won't be a part of the "official" AAR lineup, for example, he won't be on the AAR stream. All this means is that the individual affiliates get to choose between Al Franken and Thom Hartmann on the 12 PM–3 PM time slot. So, Al Franken will still have a show, but it probably might not be on as many affiliates as before.

Apparently, it appears that Air America Radio is going to become a more traditional radio syndicator, with the stations picking and choosing between the individual programs, instead of having the stations carry the entire lineup all at once.

[glitch]

133. Very good news, step one to perfect radio. Step two: get Conason his own

guest interview show.
Gotta say: can't wait! Streaming is annoying now with all the disconnects.
PS anybody else really, really hate "Imagine" with Bushes voice?

[geomon666]

136. It makes me gag hearing that

but I feel a lot better knowing Frankenbore is gone. :D

[glitch]

138. You don't like Conason? I do.

Actually, I would like a lot of people in a serious guest interview type show. There are a lot of people I'd like to hear explain their views for an hour. I would love to hear something like that on AAR, but with a host who knows better than to interrupt and talk over their guests.
Bob McChesney would be another good host.

[geomon666]

139. No I love Conason

I think he and Palast should do a Majority Report type of show. I was referring to gagging with Bush over Imagine.

[glitch]

141. Sorry! Forgot I asked that. I know, ewww. I have to mute it everytime. nt

[NYCGirl]

140. You'll be disappointed to know that Franken is not gone...

Hartmann is part of a "syndication package". He will not be on AAR's stream weekdays (only on Sunday afternoon).

[geomon666]

142. Where did you hear it would only be on Sundays? n/t

[NYCGirl]

144. Right here in this article which was posted a couple of times above:

AIR AMERICA RADIO is launching a new syndication division to offer shows separate from the network's regular offerings to both Progressive Talk and other talk/music formats. The new AIR AMERICA SYNDICATION's first offering will be KPOJ-A/PORTLAND's THOM HARTMANN's national show, which will be sent out live Noon-3p (ET) weekdays (and will be aired SUNDAY middays on WLIB-A/NEW YORK). JONES MEDIAAMERICA is handling sales for the new venture.

AIR AMERICA RADIO President GARY KRANTZ said, "THOM HARTMANN has shown enormous success in many markets around the country, from SEATTLE to PITTSBURGH. "We are thrilled to have THOM be a part of AIR AMERICA's unmatched line-up of talent and are looking forward to helping him grow in affiliations, audience, revenue, and most importantly, as an important progressive voice in the media landscape."

http://ltradio.blogspot.com/2005/09/aar-branches-out-signs-hartmann.html

[geomon666]

154. So, he'll just be on Sundays in New York

I hope my station airs him weekdays.

[demo dutch]

147. Anyone better than Al!

[OnionPatch]

159. Wow, this is awesome!!! I LOVE Hartmann!!

I'm one of his biggest fans. Been listening since Day One.
Someone earlier said he was "boring." I have to totally disagree with that person. I think Hartmann is the most interesting talk show out there. He's a walking encyclopedia of facts about government and American history. To each his own, I guess.

[Maat]

160. This is happy, happy news!

I switched from Sirius to XM.

My hubby is using the Sirius; we may keep both.

I'm so happy.

[Gloria]

163. They need to get Bernie Ward on board....even though I'm in

NM, I can sometimes pick up KGO, San Francico....I love Bernie Ward.
He's been great with the Katrina story...