$2000 debit cards PER FAMILY?!!! that's not fair!!

[bushisanidiot]

an unmarried couple gets $4000, while a single mom with 5 little mouths to feed gets $2000??!!!!

what kind of fucked up cracker set this up??!!

they should get $500 per kid dammit

[MSgt213]

1. You are right the single mom should get more we can afford it.

[Warren Stupidity]

2. It is bullshit, but it is easy to implement.. nt.

[NYC]

3. It isn't fair. The allocation should be per person.

Maybe this is not yet final? I heard there was plan for the debit cards, but they wouldn't become reality until next week.

[DistressedAmerican]

23. In Practice It Is. See post #22

[NYC]

27. Thanks.

Going to read post #22 now.

[LostinVA]

4. Well, those poor people didn't need those kids, did they?

They could have kept their legs closed. Then they would have had a car to evacuate with. Right???:sarcasm:

(this is almost verbatim to a post I read on an ENTERTAINMENT board yesterday)

[johnnie]

5. It's $2,000 per household

Did you see it somewhere different?

And what's a cracker?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. A Cracker Is Something You Eat

Silly

[johnnie]

17. That's what I thought

It threw me for a loop.

[bushisanidiot]

19. "per household" is even WORSE because many homes were

multi-family..

i grew up in a multi-family home and i am about to share my home with my brother, his wife and two kids.. i have 2 kids myself. had we been new orleans evacuees, we'd have $2000 to cover 7 people.. 3 adults and 4 kids!!

sorry, but that's fucked up and could only have been thought up by some rich white asshole

[johnnie]

21. So far what I have read

It seems that all of the specifics have not been sorted out. If you have a link with all the specifics then can you post it? I am wondering also how they are going to distribute them and who is getting them.

This is the first time that they have ever done anything like this so I'm sure they are having some problems with it all. I'm not being an apologist, but I think that FEMA even coming up with a plan for cash is better than they were doing last week.

I think blaming whitey for giving them debit cars is a bit much. Of course racism has surly been the "in thing" around here lately.

[bunkerbuster1]

30. I know what an Atlanta cracker is:

http://www.atlantacracker.com/

Apparently there was a Negro League team called... drum roll please...

The Black Crackers.

[Jersey Devil]

6. Single mom may be entitled to other benefits

Virtually all of these people are now out of work so the moms will probably be entitled to ADFC (Aid for Dependent Children). Though not a lot, it will help.

[wellstone dem]

20. Oh please,

Here in Minnesota a single parent with one child gets 437 per month, with two children I think it is 509 per month, that is total for the whole family. While it is true that it will help, it is not nearly enough to make up for the disparity of what they will need. And, that's Minnesota grants. Most states don't give even that much (really only that little)

[Jersey Devil]

34. I said "though not a lot" - what part of that was not understandable?

The fact is that AFDC will help them a lot and they will not be limited to the $2,000 per month as suggested in the original post. There are also food stamps.

Though the right would like to cut it off there is still a safety net to help poor people. Certainly it is not enough but still it cannot be ignored because every little bit helps.

[Cocoa]

7. if this is an injustice

it's a petty one. The point is to get cash into deseperate people's hands fast, not to achieve perfect fairness.

[faithfulcitizen]

33. i agree

[Skidmore]

8. They are trying to buy the people off.

Look like they are being beneficent. The compassionate conservative govt delivers. Do you think it's out of compassion that the governor of Texas became so magnanimous suddenly? The people of Texas, I believe, with the exception of Babs Bush perhaps, are acting out of compassion. However, the Texas R political machine see all these people as grateful voters of the future. This is how these devotees of patronage think. There's no paint that money can't cure.

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[Skidmore]

11. I agree it is a start.

The whole mess did not have to happen. We've put up with Republican funding priorities from Reagan on down through *. The goal has been to boost the wealthy and the corporate structure while cutting off the poor, disabled, and working class at their knees. The creation of a large corporate welfare system has destroyed our infrastructure, from our schools to our roads to the levees in NO. The $2,000 is needed, yes, and I'm glad that those people have some ready cash to put to use. What I take issue with is the cynical, self-serving crap out of this administration as they attempt to cover themselves for their negligence. As long as Karl Rove, Bush, Cheney, Delay, and the usual suspects are involved in any effort, I view any demonstration as partial stagecraft comming out of the mindset which anticipates first how it can best serve the Republican party's image and people's electibility. These people do not know what honor and integrity mean, anymore than they know the meaning of true compassion.

[WildClarySage]

9. If you make it per person then those lazy welfare queens will just go have

more children...:sarcasm:

[LostinVA]

12. Tell me about it

And ABC stores take debit cards, you know...:sarcasm:

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[ToolTex]

14. Give each household $120,000. That would make a good start

toward a new home for each family. Say there are 500,000 households. And a bit over $60 billion has been authorized by Congress. That works out to $120,000 each.

Instead, $2,000 will go to each family and $59.5 billion will go to Halliburton.

[Redstone]

24. No, $120,000 per family would not be right.

Give them a prefab house to replace the one they lost (not a trailer, one of the nice factory-built houses; I've seen damn good ones), figure $80K in cost for the house and site prep and installation...then give them the balance of $40K in cash.

Having a home is the most important thing for most people.

Redstone

[theboss]

28. And if they didn't have a home to start with?

I mean, I imagine there are a lot of people on this board who don't own their own home? Should we give them $120,000 too?

[ET Awful]

15. It needs to be pointed out that Condi spent more on SHOES than is

being given to these families. . . and did so while these families were being destroyed.

[livetohike]

18. Good point-this would make a good LTTE n/t

[DistressedAmerican]

22. I Do Not Believe That Is The Way It Is Being Handeled.

I spoke to Swamp Rat yesterday by phone. He had received a debit card. It was $600 for him and his father.

They are giving a MAXIMUM of $2000 per family. That is not the minimum.

Just so you know. The confusion is a result of how it is being reported.

[elehhhhna]

25. Today @ Astrodome: $360. for singles, Up to $1,600 per family

from local news.

[DistressedAmerican]

26. That Jives Quite Well With What Swamp Rat told Me About His Card.

He said $600 for him and his father.

[bushisanidiot]

29. That sounds a bit more fair to me..

The news reports I've been hearing said $2k per family.. so hopefully all those news agencies will start correcting their stories.

[elehhhhna]

31. Correction: Astrodomers getting RED CROSS debit cards, FEMA AWOL

for 7 to ten days yet.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4694501&mesg_id=4694501

[SillyGoose]

32. We gave $2 billion to Israel to compensate the settlers who left Gaza

just recently. It worked out to about $150,000 per person. But these Americans who lost everything get $2,000 per family. Doesn't seem right to me.