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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:47 PM
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This is the "nail in the coffin" that puts the blame game to bed
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 01:57 PM by Horse with no Name
in the Emergency Declaration issued by the President on SATURDAY.
The President himself put FEMA in charge on Saturday.

The President's action authorizes the Department of Homeland Security, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), to coordinate all disaster relief efforts

What part of ALL do they not understand?:shrug:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/20050827-1.html
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:48 PM
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1. Wish the media would point this out!
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ecoflame Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:49 PM
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2. Link? (n/t)
n/t
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:51 PM
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4. Here it is
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:50 PM
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3. It's on the White House and FEMA web pages, too
The audit trail is as clear as it can be. Thus explains the hurricane of spin.

--p!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:57 PM
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5. Watch for a page revision
That has an asterisk after that sentence.

At the bottom in 4 font will be a disclaimer: "Except when we really screw it up...then it will be someone else's fault."
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:57 PM
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6. I sent the whole statement to Olbermann.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:58 PM
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7. Thanks.
:)
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:43 PM
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30. Good going!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:00 PM
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8. It's only 4 paragraphs, you can post it in its entirety:
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 02:01 PM by Straight Shooter
Dated August 27, 2005.

The resident today declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered Federal aid to supplement state and local response efforts in the parishes located in the path of Hurricane Katrina beginning on August 26, 2005, and continuing.

The resident's action authorizes the Department of Homeland Security, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), to coordinate all disaster relief efforts which have the purpose of alleviating the hardship and suffering caused by the emergency on the local population, and to provide appropriate assistance for required emergency measures, authorized under Title V of the Stafford Act, to save lives, protect property and public health and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in the parishes of Allen, Avoyelles, Beauregard, Bienville, Bossier, Caddo, Caldwell, Claiborne, Catahoula, Concordia, De Soto, East Baton Rouge, East Carroll, East Feliciana, Evangeline, Franklin, Grant, Jackson, LaSalle, Lincoln, Livingston, Madison, Morehouse, Natchitoches, Pointe Coupee, Ouachita, Rapides, Red River, Richland, Sabine, St. Helena, St. Landry, Tensas, Union, Vernon, Webster, West Carroll, West Feliciana, and Winn.

Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency. Debris removal and emergency protective measures, including direct Federal assistance, will be provided at 75 percent Federal funding.

Representing FEMA, Michael D. Brown, Under Secretary for Emergency Preparedness and Response, Department of Homeland Security, named William Lokey as the Federal Coordinating Officer for Federal recovery operations in the affected area.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:06 PM
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14. Aren't there some parishes missing from that list???
Why would that be?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:13 PM
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19. read post 17 eom
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:14 PM
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20. Exactly.
Point I was making that as soon as Bush put it "ALL" under FEMA...there was no further arguments. The buck stopped RIGHT there.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:02 PM
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9. Wait... look what's missing here, and tell me if it was in the original...
Not all the parishes are listed: Jefferson, Orleans...
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:07 PM
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16. That changed on the 29th
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:03 PM
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10. MEDIA Please please talk about this
Pretty please with cherries on top
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:04 PM
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11. I have already fired off an LTTE on it
Walt Starr had posted it this morning on DU... great catch by him.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:06 PM
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12. But, all doesn't mean "all"
I mean, the mayor first has to declare an emergency, then go up to the governor & then the governor has to sign some form giving the feds control of the National Guard, right?

:sarcasm:

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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:43 PM
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29. That Depends on what the definition of "all" is
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:06 PM
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13. This FEMA declaration doesn't include any of the southern parishes!
What the hell? I'm looking at a map of the parishes of LA (here: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/louisiana/lacty.htm )

I'm comparing it to the FEMA declaration...

None of the hardest hit, southern parishes are in the FEMA declaration?! wtf?!!
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:07 PM
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15. jinx n/t
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:11 PM
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17. You aren't reading this correctly
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 02:12 PM by Horse with no Name
On the map on their page--green are secondarily affected parishes, white are affected parishes.

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Michael D. Brown, Under Secretary of Homeland Security for Emergency Preparedness and Response, today announced that Federal resources are being allocated to support emergency protective response efforts response efforts in the parishes located in the path of Hurricane Katrina.these are the white parishes on the map.

On the secondarily affected counties:The parishes of Allen, Avoyelles, Beauregard, Bienville, Bossier, Caddo, Caldwell, Claiborne, Catahoula, Concordia, De Soto, East Baton Rouge, East Carroll, East Feliciana, Evangeline, Franklin, Grant, Jackson, LaSalle, Lincoln, Livingston, Madison, Morehouse, Natchitoches, Pointe Coupee, Ouachita, Rapides, Red River, Richland, Sabine, St. Helena, St. Landry, Tensas, Union, Vernon, Webster, West Carroll, West Feliciana, and Winn were designated eligible for assistance(because of the high probability of rain, tornadoes, floods).these were the parishes designated in green on the map.
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:33 PM
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27. Actually, I think they are reading it correctly....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4680990#4682095

I am not trying to start an argument. I agree totally with you that the buck stops at the White House, and he gave FEMA authority to respond, because it says in the original declaration that they can change it if necessary.

The point I am trying to make is that the omission of the coastal parishes in the original declaration very likely meant two days of confusion on the ground, while the FEMA people tried to figure out what they could, and could not, do.

I think the omission is a large part of the reason for the slow federal response, and is therefore evidence of either extreme incompetence or criminal negligence on the part of this Administration. Or, more likely, both.

I think it's a smoking gun.



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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:13 PM
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18. It is in the first paragraph of the President's declaration
The President today declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered Federal aid to supplement state and local response efforts in the parishes located in the path of Hurricane Katrina beginning on August 26, 2005, and continuing.

"parishes located in the path of Hurricane Katrina"

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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:20 PM
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22. Spazito and Horse With No Name, thanks....
I hadn't seen the map that was associated, and I hadn't seen the additional letter from Brown discussing those named parishes as 'available for assistance'.

Thanks! I just read it from the White House page, without the FEMA maps, and focused on why the individual parishes were being identified...

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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:24 PM
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24. Yes, did the same thing, thanks
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:15 PM
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21. This IS the blame administration. They have NEVER taken responsibility
for ANYTHING.

These people are acting just like the childish babies over at Freeperland.

There really IS no hope for Republicans, they either rule by fear and intimidation or don't rule at all.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:23 PM
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23. Repunks are the opposite party and the projection party
whatever they say they mean the opposite

party of responsibility - party of pass the buck
culture of life - only if you're in the womb or on a feeding tube

whatever they accuse the other side of you can be sure they are guilty of it.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:30 PM
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26. rethugs should rename thier party "teflon"
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 04:00 PM
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31. It's amazing isn't it - that they have been able to get away with it for
so long!!

We are not such a smart country after all. This sucks.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:25 PM
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25. Yes it is-using the 50 firefighters for a photo op doesn't help either
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:37 PM
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28. This is inarguable.
We have to blast this far and wide.
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Ratty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 04:03 PM
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32. "The President BEGGED the governor to declare a State of Emergency"
Man I'm getting sick of hearing that one again and again.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:34 PM
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33. kick
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