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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:25 PM
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Maria Shriver is pissed!
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 01:33 PM by cat_girl25
She doesn't like all of the puke politics that is going on. Well, she should have persuaded her dog of a husband not to run for office, imo.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:27 PM
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1. But...but..she wants to be First Lady of California...
She is not a disinterested party.
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:30 PM
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10. I saw her last night
on some news program about Ahhhhhnold being attacked and was SHOCKED by her appearance. What has happened to her? She looks like some anorexic teenager, her facial skeletel features were so pronounced, and she looks starved. She was so shrill - I actually cringed. I bet the Kennedy's would love to disown her, she must either be totally dominated by that freak she is married to, or she has gone off her rocker.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:36 PM
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20. she has eating disorders...i recall Arnold making a comment about it
a few years back.
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 02:31 PM
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50. Yeah
I feel bad for her. She's still a Democrat, as far as I know.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:08 PM
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54. Her appearance is a telltale sign of methamphetamine use.
Protruding cheekbones, wrinkled, cracked lips, sunken eyes, short temper...
I been there done that and seen it in others for 30 years.
Maria is Tweaking!
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:49 PM
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59. I'll tell you what happened....
....Arnold did.

In his "Oui" interview, he mentioned "not caring", even if the girl was 150pounds, as long as she "was a good fuck".

150 POUNDS!!

He thinks of 150 as if it were obese!

Maria LIVES with this, knowing that if she cracks over 120, he's going to think she's fat.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:27 PM
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LearnedHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 02:05 PM
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41. Did you forget the...
...</SARCASM>? I sure hope so.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 02:06 PM
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42. Hey. At our age youth has it's own appeal. n/t
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:27 PM
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3. And poor thing...
...she can't even blame it on the "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy," like Hillary, since her husband is part of it!
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:31 PM
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12. In fact Arnold(aka Hitler) denounced impeachment
so that isn't true.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:42 PM
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27. But his candidacy is backed by the VRWC
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 01:43 PM by JaneQPublic
And you can bet they're holding his nose at all his moderate-to-liberal views.

(Edited for a typo.)
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:47 PM
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Why not focus on them?
instead of being like them?
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:28 PM
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4. She's pissed!? What about the women Arnold groped?
Does the media care what they think???
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:31 PM
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14. Typical. Variation on cheated-on wife blaming the "other woman"
n/t
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:41 PM
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25. Actually it's a variation of Bush strategy "this hurts me"
which is the opposite of the Dem/Clinton general strategy: I feel YOUR pair/government is for YOU.

When that hit and run congressman had that press conference, he talked a lot about how it was affecting him. He killed a man, and he spent 99% of his time in that press conference trying to make it all about him and his feelings and his pain.

It's a common Republican strategy -- if the implications of thinking about how their policies or behaviour affect other people are extremely damning, then turn it around and try to make it seem like how it's affecting you is the most important thing.

And the media is playing right along if they're interviewing Maria, and presenting her story like this, rather than talking about how the victims of Arnold's tortious and criminal acts feel about what he has done, or talking about the social and political implications of behavior like that.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:28 PM
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5. Being related to the Kennedy family...
she knows damn well that this stuff was going to come out! She is just playing for the media, imo! Don't forget she is not a neophyte in the media world, she knows the score.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 02:17 PM
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45. oh..but Maria wanted to be first lady of California on the Kennedy name...
that's powerful enough, so she thought. Maria, you forgot that your husband is a criminal and that does not go well with Californias. The repigs are desprite, and they accept your criminal husband. Maria, you love the Kennedys but your husband loves the Nazis and Hitler. What are you going to tell your children?
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:28 PM
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6. Why would she even want to be associated with this recall?
It would be an entirely different story if he were running for office in a regular election. How can she be so dense as not to recognize the view that this "recall" is seen as nothing but an illegitimate power grab?
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:46 PM
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30. californians should have repealled the recall law but since it's there
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 01:48 PM by bearfartinthewoods
the recall is legal and legitimate.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:49 PM
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35. I didn't say it was illegitimate...I said it was PERCEIVED as illegitmate
As one of DU's champion word-parsers, I'm surprised you didn't notice that. :eyes:
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:51 PM
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36. Technically, yes
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 01:53 PM by diplomats
but it's obviously an effort to help Bush win the state in 2004. Of course, if Gray Davis weren't so damned unpopular, we wouldn't even be in this situation.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:28 PM
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7. She mustered up anger ? amazing
all 89 lbs of her. Arnold made sure she had an extra piece of celery for her press conference, evidently.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:33 PM
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16. harsh
}( but I was about to post that maybe if she ate a decent meal it might help out with the anxiety she's experiencing.

:o

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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:29 PM
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8. I was hoping that she'd file for divorce today.
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 01:30 PM by revcarol
She probably had some kind of agreement with him that he would "stop," after previous allegations came out.But it seems he's still at it, and that crack about "dirty politics" made that "apology" false.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 02:34 PM
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51. thank you, revcarol...ahhhnold did not "apologize"
he distracted first, then he minimized what he did...then he 'apologized' for "being playful"...it was totally FALSE.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:29 PM
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9. Tough shit, Maria!
You married the bonehead.

Besides, growing up Kennedy, she sure as hell should have known that everything - EVERYTHING - will be exhumed if you stand for public office.

Piss on her.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 02:11 PM
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44. Tough Tit -e Maria...
that's what your criminal husband stole from other women.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:30 PM
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11. Link?
I don't disbelieve you, and certainly the idea that Ms. Shriver is pissed about the treatment her husband is getting appeals to me, but what is this based on?

If she is well and truly upset about this, I have serious questions about whether she has been living in a cave for the last 15 or 20 years. Or did she honestly think that political games wouldn't be played with her husband's candidacy? And, would she really believe that I can sell her the Brooklyn Bridge? At cost?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:33 PM
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17. it's a ploy...
...and I'm surprised Maria agreed to do it.

When all else fails, drag out the Little Woman so she can support her man and shame everyone into silence. From the beginning of politics, it's an old tactic.

The last resort is usually the candidate's mother.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 02:23 PM
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48. Yep, the little woman gets trotted out, backed by Oprah
My wish-come-true on Tuesday is that Arnie falls on his ass and takes his wife and Oprah down with him for trying to pass "the groper" off as something resembling a legitimate candidate. Far from it.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:39 PM
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23. I saw a snippet on MSNBC and she was really looking upset.
And the others are right, she does look like she hasn't eaten in a while.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:49 PM
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cnn, msnbc both showed her being pissed
in the last hour.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:31 PM
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13. She knew her husband had this reputation when she ran which is why she
appeared on Oprah with him and what is she pissed at? The fact that it didn't work. Tough shit Maria.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:34 PM
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18. Yeah - she can just chew harder. n/t
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:32 PM
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15. Does anyone else think this is a perfect example of the
Madonna/Whore complex? Arnold obviously treats her like a queen (except for the starving part) and expects her to look and dress and act like a "lady." Then the minute she leaves he is all over the closest thing with breasts and talking the nasty and expecting prostitution-like behavior.

This has gotten so out of control, I think I must be having a nightmare.

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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:40 PM
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24. Maria
I think her inner self is humiliated. I think her inner self is stupid. What did she expect? I read somewhere she tried to talk him out of it. He probably told her he would divorce her if she didn't go along. And, yes she looks so thin a strong breeze would blow her away. I do feel sorry for her though. Her taste in men is awful.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:45 PM
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29. Didn't she used to have a big TV career?
Where is she now, I never see her on TV, except as the little woman. I don't feel sorry for her. Hell, we all make mistakes, but then you FIX IT. She could have left him any day of the week.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:49 PM
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34. She took a leave from her TV career
when the campaign started.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:40 PM
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58. i thought they let her go because of viewer comments about "anorexia"
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 03:43 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
and until she gets it under control and adds a few lbs she can't do air time....maybe i read it in the "Enquirer" :shrug:

and if you think she looks emancipated on TV just remember the camera lens makes you look 20lbs heavier...so imagine seeing herup close and personal out stumping for Arnold...
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:36 PM
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19. She's pissed?
Well tell her to spend some time in Hillary Clinton's shoes. She should be very thankful that democrats don't typically go after a candidate's spouse.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:57 PM
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Or Valerie Plame's shoes
Boo-fucking-hooo, Scarecrow.

Try watching your sources and friends get whacked as your covert career comes to an end, because the Imperial Family wanted revenge.

Please.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:57 PM
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 02:39 PM
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52. Touche! nt
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:37 PM
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21. My crystal ball sees Arnold dropping out
Arnold's megalomania craves to be the center of attention. But not this. He'll be the object of ridicule and a endless joke. Maria will not put up with it.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:38 PM
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22. She needs to redirect that anger
onto its proper target. Did they really think this shit wouldn't come out when he decided to run? Of all people Maria should have known better.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 02:08 PM
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43. I agree. She should have known.
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 02:51 PM by cat_girl25
Her disgust in all this makes it seem as if this type of stuff never happens.

Woman please!
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:42 PM
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26. And I am pissed at Maria for subjecting her children to the TRUTH
of what their father is: predator, deviant, violent and now a confirmed hitler lover.

MARIA had the responsibility to protect her children from this. She chose to stand by her man at their expense.

Those kids cannot go to school today -- or any day for a very long time.

She sacrificed them to allow her egomaniacal husband to get his ego stroked.

Burn in hell, Maria.
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einsteins stein Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:47 PM
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31. gee, thats a progressive, compassionate view
Blame the wife cause the husband is a dog.

And "Burn in hell, Maria"? WTF?

You need to relax. get some sleep. double your dose. Something.

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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 02:21 PM
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47. She can't even take care of herself
I wonder how her children are faring. The pic in this post demonstrates how deep into a different world she has gone:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=461462

Sad, no?

Julie
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:44 PM
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28. It gets pretty hot in the kitchen
and she knows what to do if she doesn't like it.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:48 PM
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32. speaking
3:00 to a womans club something or other...seen this on either CNN or MSNBC....
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:49 PM
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33. I'd be pissed....
Knowing that win or lose, I'd be know as the wife of a Nazi Sexual Predator for the rest of my life.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:52 PM
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37. The poor thing is deluded
She is diverting her anger to US????

Hey, girl, focus!! Keep the anger to HUBBY.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 01:56 PM
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38. Low Blow comment on my part....
Arnold and Maria are so ugly. Is this the reason why they keep their 4 children in hiding?

Last year I heard Arnold (the pig) on the ... that late show with women doing all types of sexual stuff as requested by the discjokie... Stern.. Anyway, Arnold was on talking about a lot of dirty stuff, and Stern kept asking Arnold how did Maria performed sexually in bed. He kept saying, 'she's fantastic that's why I keep her.' I had never watched the Stern show but I was changing channels and heard Arnold talking about his wife, and I was totally furious. Next day, I sent a letter to Senator Kennedy telling him about Arnold's grossness.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 02:01 PM
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40. Well, ****I'm**** Pissed at Maria SHRIVER ! n/t
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 02:19 PM
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46. Shes NOT on the Bus
tour with arnold.....she MAY meeet up with him later...isn't that kind of funny?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 02:30 PM
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49. She's probably pissed off that she quit her job for her schmuck
of a husband.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:03 PM
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53. who thinks she didn't know all along?
i don't believe she didn't know. she knew. she lied. in effect, she smeared the women, Arnie's victims, who were telling the truth. these revelations are nothing new to her, she's just pissed that the cat is out of the bag.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:16 PM
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55. She probably can't eat now because she hates herself ...
Isn't that a part of anorexia? Wanting to die, hating yourself so badly that you want to die and are in reality killing yourself?

She hasn't ever faced the truth of Ahhhnuld and now she can't escape it. Seems reality has hit her square in the face. We will see if she survives. If she does survive, it will be interesting to see HOW she digs herself out from the hell.

By not facing what/who Ahhhhnuld truly is, she's helped to create the monster that is HER husband and the FATHER of her children. That would make me sick enough to want to die!

I hope she can find the truth and the ability to deal with her inner demons and come out swinging for TRUTH n/m what consquences she must face.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:18 PM
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56. Of course she knew...
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 03:19 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
Arnie's people had threatened Premiere Magazine to keep them from running that piece a few years back on Arnie the Barbarian.

As others have said, Hollywood is a VERY small town -- these stories about his behavior are as common knowledge as Rock's sexuality, back in the day.

That's what I find so disgusting about her-- her willingless to fuck over her own sex to protect/support her husband.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 03:38 PM
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57. question: is it anorexia, or cocaine addiction? or both?
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 04:15 PM
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60. She'll divorce him eventually - right now she's in stage 1: denial
She will divorce his ass:

http://www.york-united-kingdom.co.uk/funerals/grief/

The stages of grief:

1) Denial
In the denial stage we refuse to believe what has happened. We try in our mind to tell ourselves that life is as it was before our loss. We can even make believe to an extent by re enacting rituals that we used to go through with our loved one. Making an extra cup of tea for our loved one who is no longer there, rushing back to tell someone that you have met an old friend. Flashing back to times and conversations in the past as though they we here with us now. They can all be part of this stage.

2) Anger
We get angry. The anger can manifest itself in many ways. We can blame others for our loss. We can become easily agitated having emotional outbursts.

3)Bargaining

4) Depression

5) Acceptance
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