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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:10 AM
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Why would * want to force Blanco to cede authority of NG?
My first thought is that they wanted to steal something. What would *co have done if the NG were Federalized?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:11 AM
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1. To push blame off on local authorities. n/t
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:12 AM
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2. So once the feds are in control and things get better...
they can blame all the preceding incompetence on state and local officials.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:12 AM
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3. They also want to
CONTROL THE PRESS, that is the BIGGEST danger to them IMHO.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:14 AM
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5. Not to mention cover-ups out the wazoo...
Can't have people knowing what the REAL death toll will be.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:13 AM
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4. Power Hungry Bush!!!
Wanted to make an issue about her.....there will be one now, but about Bush!!
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:14 AM
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6. They wanted to use this in 06 and 08. I know Karl is thinking that far
forward even if Dubya can't. I will bet you a dollar to a pig with lips that they didn't see a downside to this. If she ceded control they would have said look how us brave re-pukes had to save the donkey asses in campaigns from sea to shining sea. If she refuses well she is clearly hindering efforts. Unfortunately Ray Nagin may have played a unwitting hand in all of this because he was so distraught. But it doesn't matter in the end.
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Be Brave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:15 AM
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7. As Boussard said, to "cover their ass." n/t
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Tammie Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:15 AM
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8. Because it would be easier
to cover up his failure and ineptitude and place blame on local and state officials. I'm glad she's holding her ground. We'll soon see the Swiftboating of Gov. Blanco, I'm sure.
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:16 AM
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9. number one: do you thing he would EVER cede authority Back
to the state of Lousiana?

I don't think he would ever cede authority back once he had it.
So he now has an area in the 48 contiguous states that is under his private, personal control. A beachhead for his dictatorship.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:17 AM
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10. To help Bobby Jindal get elected gov and to control where $ goes.
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 10:18 AM by 1932
They want to make sure the right private security, et al. companies get the contracts.

It's all about money and political power for the cabal.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:17 AM
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11. A question I have is: Did bush also make the request of the Repub
Governors in Mississippi and Alabama? If so, why haven't we heard? If not, why not?

If he did not, it would be more proof that this is all about trying to cover his ass while he let people die.
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:25 AM
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15. There have been complaints in MS & AL about the slow response
of the Feds, but it hasn't gotten the play that the complaints about NOLA have, because the greater population of NOLA, and the continuing flood make it a much bigger story. The affected populations in MS and AL didn't need to be evacuated to save their lives, so there wasn't the same need for the same response.

So, playing devil's advocate, the Republicans can make a case that the reason Smirk didn't ask the Governors of MS & AL is that it wasn't necessary.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:27 AM
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18. I would LOVE to know the answer to that question. I''l bet you
anything the answer is NO. If he had done that, we probably would have heard about it EARLY ON IN THIS DIDASTER. If the press asks the Governors of MS and AL, NOW, they would cover the idiot's ass and LIE and say he DID ask them to federalize the NG in their state. We will probably never know the truth.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:00 AM
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28. I think the answer probably is there is 'no need' to federalize the NG
in AL and MS because the white Repub governors are doing such a great job that this step is not necessary. See the picture being painted?
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:20 AM
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12. Foremost reason: to stop the bleeding
They need to completely control the situation on the ground, in the media, top to bottom. There are still many horrible stories coming out each day that are almost screaming about the negligence of the administration. So they want to stem the flow with concealment and subsequent lies that will be protected by that concealment.

After that, it gets easier. You can manipulate the death count. You can have the EPA wave a magic wand and say everything is squeaky-clean and ready for reinhabitation. But mostly, this gives them the luxury of having all the time and control in the world to make sure that this turns out to be the fault of Nagin and Blanco. They may throw ShortBus Brown over the side, but it will stop there.

That's why they want federal control.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:21 AM
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13. CYA....
..and, come to think of it...i'm not sure if this administration's first reaction to anything is not CYA..and much of their blundering is due to the immense amount of looting they've done that needs to be kept under wraps.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:23 AM
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14. Eventually, if the NG is federalized, they they can be used to suppress
any domestic uprisings, right?
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:26 AM
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16. "If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier,
just so long as I'm the dictator,"
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:32 AM
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22. How long before that happens? nt
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:27 AM
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17. OK, a concensus forms...
I'm putting this reply here as a group reply. Thats for the responses.

The demand to Federalize the LA-NG by the * crime machine was a reactive response to criticism of their lack of response. They needed to control the area to control the message and to allow for tghe coverin up of the severity of death, deaths that are a direct result of their inaction. I still believe that there must be more, but for *co to have that level of crime scene control is a compelling reason for the attempted blackmail.

Duzzat sum it up?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:28 AM
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19. Northcom Commander Keating just said it didn't need to be federalized
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 10:29 AM by CottonBear
live on MSNBC and Fox just now. He was interviewed. He said it didn't matter who told them to go or was in charge as long as they could go.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:31 AM
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20. The military doesn't want it.
Both Gen. Honoree and the Northern Command in charge guy have stated very clearly that it's unnecessary.

So any motive is purely political (as always).
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:31 AM
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21. They want New Orleans, the whole damned city.
It's carpetbagging at its disgusting extreme.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:35 AM
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23. They are being royally shamed and humiliated by them.
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 10:36 AM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
Certainly since that General Honore started geting things done - on a local initiative.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:38 AM
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24. bulldoze the poor side of town and take property for rich -
take away waterfront property
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:41 AM
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25. The would have a rather large "playground' to test out all kinds
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 10:41 AM by SoCalDem
of plans and contingencies.. and would have impugniity too. The governor would be in a weakened state too since "she had to call in the feds to take over the largest city in her state" (because she was not capable of running things)..Of course, she is toast anyway, and probably know it, so she has nothing to lose by saying it like it is and bucking the little tyrant) I doubt she could have been elected without the votes of the New orleans dems, and they are now citizens of Texas, Utah,Pennsylvania,Arkansas, and Arizona, so they won;t be voting in Louisiana anymore.. Their numbers, concentrated in one area made them a force..They are diluted, broken people now, whose votes are gone (probably forever) from New orleans..
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:41 AM
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26. Operation CYA
Say that the Democratic Governor (who also happens to be a woman) was inefective. That way they can blame the debacle on her.

Fortunately the military does not seem to be playing along. Both Honore and Admiral Keating of NORTHCOM see no advantage in a federal takeover.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:43 AM
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27. To play CYA. By taking control at this point - they attempt to deflect
all earlier problems by stating that was the other folks (dems in state).

This is all about staging to try to keep boyking from sinking even futher in the polls. And it is disgusting.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:15 AM
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29. Halliburton got the no bid clean up project for NO...
If the NG is federalized, there will truly be no accountability!
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:39 PM
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30. To control the crime scene,
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 12:47 PM by Psyop Samurai
lock down information, facilitate an ex post facto false flag (fingering local authorities), facilitate further planned atrocities, and to advance domestic military control.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:34 PM
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31. So contracts will go to "repuke donors" rather than the lowest bidder.
After all - they paid for the privilege.:sarcasm:
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