Tucker just said "It may destroy his Presidency"

[unfrigginreal]

Wow! I couldn't believe it, but it sure sounds like this thing may be deeper than any of us have thought! He and Begala were reading emails when he made the statement, Tucker saying that Bush did what he thought was right but "It may destroy his Presidency". One can only hope.

[jenk]

1. yep

Hannity was just blubbering about it on his show, talking about how all this is having an affect! Let's keep the pressure on!

[liberalnurse]

2. Yes, yes, yes!!!!!

This is the good fight!!!!

[Parche]

3. attack repeat attack

No stopping, we will launch more assaults on bush until
he either resigns or is impeached.

[ElementaryPenguin]

4. HOOOOOOOORAY!!!!!!!

Tell me, did his fascist little bow-tie go limp as he said it???

[Zephyrbird]

16. No, it twirled at 100 m.p.h.!

hee hee hee!!!

:7

[Champion Jack]

5. The Rats are leaving...

frantically trying to find a way out...

[Eddie Current]

6. all I can say is...

... a few weeks ago I could hardly bare to watch the news.

now it's like pass the popcorn this is getting good

[KCDem]

42. I'm the same way!

I stopped watching morning TV (Today Show) when the occupation began. Today, I was pissed at Claudette for preempting Katie Couric.

Damn lib'rul media! :bounce:

[OrdinaryTa]

7. And It Was So Promising, Too

Imagine such a well-intentioned, promising presidency brought down because of 16 words. That CIA fellow! It shows you can't get good help anymore.

[bunnyhop]

8. Bush didn't think it was right.

He just loves killing people. All repugs are like that - the party of guns and cars and executions and wars.

[GreenArrow]

13. "guns and cars and executions and wars."

I like that...sounds like it should be in a song.

[leesa]

60. Oh but don't hurt those precious unborns!!!

They want to murder them later when it really hurts them.

[Ellen Forradalom]

64. A Warren Zevon song

'Send lawyers guns and money!'

[regnaD kciN]

67. (to continue...)

'The Bush has hit the fan!'

:evilgrin:

[asjr]

15. Tucker

Gee, the repugs might fire Tucker and try to put Tom Delay in his place. Tom is the meanest man in America.

[ewagner]

35. DeLay

...there's no room for sentiment in the extermination business........


:evilgrin:

[Lorien]

44. More like

he did it for defense profits, oil profits, and reconstruction profits, and to flex our military muscle and gain a new staging ground for other attacks in the region. There are no reasons which were either "nobel" or "right", or even remotely in the best interests of this nation.

I just talked to a friend with an associate who invented a combustion engine that is 50% more efficient than anything on the market today. The manufacturer that was working on getting it onto the market just scraped the whole thing, saying that oil is now so cheap, no one is interested in buying a car with twice the mileage. Thanks *! Helping us all dig our graves a little faster, aren't we?

[ChompySnack]

9. This is the big one

At first it seemed like they may be able to spin out of this, but the fact that they took it out of an October speech has slammed the logical trap on them.

Letting it sink in over the weekend really brings out the magnitude of the criminality in my mind and I'm sure others as well. Critical mass is building on this so quickly I can hardly believe it with our censored press.

Rice for sure is gone, Cheney is most likely toast.

They might be able to pin it all on them and toss them overboard and not get impeached, but forget re-election.

Bush/Rumsfield?
Bush/Powell?
Bush/Jesus?

None of them would fly.

Wooooooooo F*cking Hooooooooo!

I am going to really enjoy watching them dive, crash and burn. I'll be routing for the ground all the way.

[cjbuchanan]

21. I don't want to sound like a killjoy but...

let's not get ahead of ourselves. Remember that some people on the right were saying the same thing about Clinton. I know that this is actually something that matters, but we need to stay focused to bring these folks down.

[zbdent]

30. Not if we can keep harping the fact that Bush sent many American

soldiers to Iraq to their deaths.

And, that France and Germany are correct until WMDs are found in Iraq.

I wonder, if you ask any US soldier who went over to Iraq for his honest reason why he was sent there, I would bet money that it damn sure wasn't on the basis of "liberating the Iraqis". Most would, if they decided to tell you the truth, admit that they were sent there because they were told Iraq was an imminent threat to the US because of WMDs.

[cjbuchanan]

34. Don't forget about Saddam and 11 September

I'm sure lots of them would say that we were serving up revenge for what happened on September 11th.

Just like us, they were lied to, but they are being shot at because of Bush's lies.

You are right; it is up to us to keep the pressure on to make sure they do not have to serve as the enforcers of Bush & Co. agenda.

[leesa]

62. Well if they are that ignorant and vengeful then...

Sounds like you bought that crap too. You probably thought it was an appropriate response to carpet bomb Afghanistan for the criminal act of a couple hundred ALLEGED criminals. Merikkkans are dumb and easily led by the nose

[Pillowbiter]

37. Unfortunately, from newspaper reports I've been reading

the troops think they are over there to get revenge for 9/11.

PB

[Pobeka]

65. And it will take an HONEST administration to resolve this Iraq mess

That point can't be made enough. The lies not killed people in the past, they are continuing to kill people TODAY, because they can't see fit to tell the public the straight truth and resolve this thing like grown-ups.

We really owe it to our troops, and the Iraqi people to get some honest people running the show ASAP.

[Zan_of_Texas]

69. kid soldiers

A lot of 'em signed up for the military because there were no jobs at home, and no way to pay for college. Some were pressured by intense recruiters roaming the halls at their high schools, a high school teacher here told me.

Something like 30,000 of our troops are not American citizens, but in return for military service were promised priority consideration in getting citizenship for themselves and their families. The ones who die at war get posthumus citizenship.

Increasingly large but unknown numbers of military and ancillary operations are being conducted by paid (i.e. mercenary) forces, hired by such military contractors as DynCorp (now CSC), or Halliburton (division KBR). When those folks come home in a body bag, it's less noticeable and not as difficult politically.

[drdigi420]

49. BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED

Let's just keep pushing this.

I've made it easy:

http://www.onwithyourhead.com/bushlied.pdf

We've got them on both our cars and we've been putting them up all over the city: (ATL)

[Skittles]

50. sorry

a consensual sex act in no way compares to lying about WAR that has killed THOUSANDS and continues to kill EVERY DAY.

[Catt03]

54. Right

I remember the Clinton predictions also. I think we shoud just keep it going and adding something new everyday.

[TankLV]

55. Ahhh - but the Clinton bashing had no foundation - just pure hatred.

This has a very firm indesputable foundation. Even our wimpy dem leadership supported this lying AWOL coke snorting bastard (much to my extreme displeasure and disappointment).

No - the repigs had a hard-on for Clinton's ass months before he was even inaugurated for Christ's sake! Never accepted his win (wasn't big enough - bush got more votes than McKinley (or some other such nonsense) - never mind that GORE GOT MORE than bunker-boy and it's now all different!

This time OUR BOYS (& innocent Iraqi's) ARE DYING FOR A BUNCH OF LIES!

God bless the Germans and French for not being fooled/bribed by this bunch of crinimals!

[leesa]

61. Thanks for the RNC tip to not speak too loudly

Bullshit! Pull the mofo's down loudly and with a great deal of gusto. We've done the quiet, reserved route...doesn't work

[Skip Intro]

23. Here's how desperate they are now

There is a thread in LBN about little hitler defending his actions while claiming there is nothing to defend.

He says now that,

1) the CIA expressed doubts about the Niger docs AFTER the SOTU.

2) the war was necessary because he gave saddam a chance to let inspectors into Iraq, and saddam refused.

He is clearly contradicting his staff on number one and has utterly lost reality on number two. The inspectors were forced to leave Iraq to avoid being shock-n-awed to death, all the while asking for more time to finish their job.

If this gets reported widely, and the link was from the Washington Post, especially the tv news nets, I don't see how anyone could give a benifit of the doubt to the liar. Everybody remembers the argument to give inspectors more time vs. bush/blair bomb now! This lie from him today is potentially more fatal to his regime, because it would resonate with more people, imho. Its a cut and dry, black and white lie. I hope CNNABCFAUXMSNBCCBSABC run it big on the eve. news.

[magnolia]

25. And they thought....

...they were so smart...changing the October statement by replacing Niger with Africa...as if that makes it totally different! What idiots!

Poor Tucker...first he has to eat his shoe...now this...

[regnaD kciN]

68. I wonder...

Rice for sure is gone

Do you think she'll suddenly decide to step down in order to run in the California recall election?

[RobertSeattle]

10. So Tucker, maybe Clinton did what he thought was right

when he did all he could do to avoid Starr's investigation of the Monica affair - since it had nothing to do with his Presidency.

[indepat]

20. Let's don't miss the big picture: Tucker says he did what he thought was

right, i.e., it had nothing to do with oil, hegemony, empire, extraordinary cash flow and profits to Halliburton, the Carlisle Group, et al, he only did what he thought was right, had all the right motives. Yeah, Tucker, this invasion and occupation had not been their plans for years. Yeah! Right on Tucker.

[nostamj]

11. KICK 'em while he's down

and throw EVERYTHING at him.

we'll be adding 9/11 soon.

create DOUBT around everything he says (or ever has said)

toss in AWOL, FL vote purges, 'leave no child', behavior at Booker School on 9/11, EVERYTHING...

BushCo was diverting the country with BOOS (Bush Outrage Overload Syndrome). Every time you tried to respond to an outrage, there were five more outrages to respond to.

Let's give it right back. The Dems today were hammering on Iraq and the Economy and deception...

??? NOW MORE THAN EVER Question W * is not invincible and NOW is the time to exploit any sense of 'doubt' in his honor or honest... and there's ammo that will work across party lines. no one likes to be lied to and American kids are dying

[Piperay]

12. Payback time

for what they did to Clinton over a nothing issue like a blowjob. :evilgrin:

[JJ]

43. Not Payback; Justice!

[fizzana]

14. Shock and Awe, BRING IT ON!!!!!

N/T

[cjbuchanan]

17. Get all 9 Democratic nominees together...

And have them call for an independent investigation.

This would unite the party because no matter if you they were pro and anti war with Iraq, they can say that the issue is trust. It would also get huge news coverage. Americans would see that anyone one of these nine would stand for honesty.

Think it could happen?

[KCDem]

45. I think that's a great idea.

And welcome to DU! :hi:

The nominees showing solidarity over this would be good for Democratic cohesion... not to mention, it might get some play.

[protect freedom impeach bush now]

18. started its destruction the day the election was stolen

When Bush Regime stole the White House by STOPPING the count
of Americans' cast votes, WAS THE DAY THAT THE DESTRUCTION
OF THE AMERICAN DEMOCRACY BEGAN.


Bush is a FRAUD and ILLEGITIMATE pResident from the day
he seized the White House.
The 5 TREASONOUS Supreme Court inJustices installed their
candidate over the will of the voters.

Bush's treasonous PNAC cabal should all be arrested and charged
with treason for the lies to 'justify' the Iraq occupation.
An occupation that the PNAC cabal was planning for years.

[enough]

28. Yes! Even while this storm is gathering,

it has to be constantly brought back to the original sin, "the day the election was stolen." This must never be forgotten.

The Supreme Court Five are complicit, and the surrender of the media was completed that day as well.

[Frances]

19. You know, if Bush has to resign

(which I doubt)Cheney would have to go also because he was even more quilty than Bush. Would that mean Hastert would be next in line?

[SeattleDem]

22. not if Cheney went first and another VP was appointed

that might be preferable to Hastert, regardless of who the new VP is!

[nostamj]

26. "regardless of who the new VP is!"

are you sure about that ???

Frist?
Delay?
Ashcroft?
Rumsfeld???

[classics]

29. Bush will never resign.

In his mind he is the lord emperor choosen to be the hand of god.

[Kahuna]

47. He'll resign if he thinks he could face criminal charges...

if his polling goes down to thirty-something, he would be very smark to resign so that he can receive a pardon. But I hope that his arrogant nature prevails and he believes that he can stick it out and steal another election.

[stopbush]

24. And Begala BLEW IT Again!

Begala played the tape of shrub's big mistake yesterday, ie: "Saddam wouldn't let the inspectors in so we attacked." While the applause died down, Tucker came back with the LIE that bush must have been referring to 1998 when "Saddam threw the inspectors out." He then threw in the obligatory "blame Cinton, he did nothing about Saddam" shit.

Begala - unfortunately - missed the opportunity to correct Tucker: Saddam DID NOT throw the inspectors out in '98. They were pullled out by the USA prior to our bombing attacks. This particular repig lying spin point has been debunked more often than sightings of the Loch Ness Monster (Scott Ritter debunks it in almost every statement and TV appearance he makes!), yet Begala allows it to be used yet again, even when he's got the repigs hoisted on their own petard.

So, Begala gets a single rather than hitting it out of the park. Too bad, because in the exchange Begala said something like "when do you know bush is lying? When his lips move." He could have used the same line on Tucker just a few seconds later.

A-A-A-R-R-G-G-H-H-H!!

[Emboldened Chimp]

32. Begala is covering for Clinton, acutally.

Clinton has perpetuated that same lie, too. It pisses me off every time I hear him say it.

[PurityOfEssence]

38. Begala's his own worst enemy

He also said that he'd never heard of a "she-male" or never heard the term. That's just a ridiculous lie. On the odd possibility that he wasn't lying to suck up to the mainstream, he's just so clueless that he should never be allowed to be a pundit.

Yes, he hammers Junior, but he still calls him "a good guy". He constantly shows himself as a hunter (read: sport killer) to appease the right.

He's a smart-ass and not much help at times. (When he had a PETA guy on, he was eating KFC and had his intern pass buckets of the stuff around just to piss the guy off. That's just ugly.)

Whatever. At least he's out there.

He also claimed that Hitler and McVeigh were atheists; they weren't, they were both Roman Catholics, just like he is. (Not surprisingly, that letter didn't get read...)

[TEXASYANKEE]

41. Yes!

This was a MAJOR bitch of mine during the 2000 campaign -- Democratic pundits never stood up and said "Gore DID NOT say he invented the internet" "Gore DID NOT discover Love Canal" etc etc etc. Just once I would like a Dem pundit, upon hearing yet another falsehood about Clinton, Gore, or Dems in general say "YOU ARE LYING!"

[leesa]

63. Begala is just a RW stooge to give the appearance of having a liberal

on the teevee. They never pursue a point logically...they could cream the conservatives every single time but they always somehow manage to come up short...pity, isn't it. Just a waste of time entertainment screaming match.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

27. American needs...

a compitent Leader who will steer the country in the right direction!!!

[skip fox]

31. Don't forget to check out DU's own CAPTIONers on this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=23032&mesg_id=23032&page=

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=22437&mesg_id=22437&page=

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=23252&mesg_id=23252&page=

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=21157&mesg_id=21157&page=2

[PurityOfEssence]

33. Big Drip from a Total Drip

Yes, the rats can feel water rising in the bilge and they're covering their bets.

Tucker is spineless. At least Novak has some guts. Novakula also knows that this little nobody-spawn-of-a-nothing could really screw things up for the haves.

[kskiska]

36. These people won't go down easily

They'll have to be pulled out of the White House kicking and screaming. Think Election 2000. They had absolutely NO plans for failure. Concession was never mentioned. They'll NEVER admit being wrong about anything and will lie and cover up till the last minute. We've got to be resolute and focused.

[mlawson]

51. I would agree, BUT:

--- They no longer have the good will of the CIA, to help them stay in. Exactly the reverse, now.

--- They no longer have the support of the military, either. I would think the top generals are pissed beyond repair, that they had to fight a war based on lies by the WH.

--- The repukes will be more and more embarassed by the scandal. They will want rid of the whole WH lot, before 2004.

Once Nixon lost the support of the Republican senators, he was gone. This will take a while for bush, but it might well be coming.

[Jackpine Radical]

39. Dear Tucker:

Dear Tucker:

I’m writing this slowly because I know you can’t read very fast, and I’m trying to use easy words because I know how reading the big words makes your lips hurt.

You say you think George Bush did what he thought was best for us. I don’t see how that can be true unless he thought it would be best for us to go to war with Iraq at any cost and no matter what lies he had to tell to get us there.

(You following? That sentence wasn’t too complicated, was it? Let’s try some more.)

The Iraqi people didn’t throw flower petals at us. They are throwing bombs. That is because they think we invaded them, and they don’t like that. Would you like it if a bunch of foreigners came here and overthrew our government? I bet, even though we have an unelected dictator who sends people he doesn’t like to Cuba to be tortured and wants to kill people without giving them a trial, you wouldn’t like it if those foreigners came here and started shooting and bombing our things. And they might want to come here and take our bombs and gas and rockets away from us, you know. They might want to do that because we showed the world that we would use those weapons on other people even if we had to lie and make up stories about them.

I hope these ideas aren’t too hard for you, Tucker. If there is something here that you don’t understand, maybe you can ask that nice Paul or that bald guy Jim to explain it to you.

Your friend,
Jackpine Radical, Ph.D.

[w13rd0]

46. Use their perception of you against them...

...they think you are "hard on Bush" just because you are a "Bush hater". Respond, "yes, I despise Bush, I think he acts like a dictator who serves as a figurehead for a corporate socialist state, but if a foreign power invaded my country on the basis of lies, you can be damn sure I'd take up arms. Does that make me a 'Bush sympathizer'?"

[muchacho]

40. Bow tie boy

Tucker giveth with one hand and taketh away with the other.

Whatever...Shrub's toast.

[robbedvoter]

48. Ha!Ha! The third time I saw that in the last 24 h - Broder

said "If he loses he can look back to July 10, 2003, a Daily News article "until now I didn't think so, but he is beatable". Tucker makes the trifecta! The perception bubble has been broken - this is excellent news indeed!

[Catshrink]

52. All it took was for Hillary to bring Tucker a cake

and he melts. Awesome!

[Skittles]

53. HEY TUCKER

think about the thousands of LIVES being destroyed in IRAQ, you bow-tied DIPSHIT.

[JCMach1]

56. This will only get worse for * when the 911 Report comes out

IT will magnify the intelligence mistakes that have occurred more recently...

LIHOP will seem like a real possibility to people beyond the 10%ers...

[spanone]

57. Bu$h & Cheney doin the perp walk

[spanone]

58. Bu$h & Cheney doin the perp walk

I can dream

[Vitruvius]

66. Or doing the last mile -- after their conviction.

If we're going to dream, let's dream big...

[leesa]

59. It better destroy the whole rotten Republican party

Bunch of traitorous slime...including Tucker! Bush probably did think he was doing right because he thinks it's right to invade an unarmed country in order to steal their oil and murder their citizens so his donors can continue to rake in gobs of money. On to the next third world country to loot and murder.

[LuminousX]

70. the New GOP

Maybe if the Republican Party is stripped of all the ultra-fascist extremists we can actually return to governance instead of political warfare.