Did I hear Tucker Carlson correctly?

[mnmoderatedem]

I was channel surfing last evening and happened on his show (making me one of the six or eight people that actually watch him) and could have sorn I heard him admit invading Iraq was a bad idea. Has he waffled on this, or did I not hear him correctly?

[Hugin]

1. Well, at this point... I don't give a **** what he thinks.

Really... Waffling.

:nopity:

[charlyvi]

2. You heard him correctly.

Tucker has said the Iraq war was a mistake for a long time. He's a hardcore Libertarian--live and let live. He hates Karen Hughes and it pissed him off when shrub flew everywhere but DC on 9/11. Tucker is an asshole, but not a shrub-loving asshole.

[SoFlaJet]

7. yea but.......

he STILL voted for Bush.That's what irks me the most about these so-called integrity media um personalities(Andrew Sullivan is another).They sit there only now claiming that they disagree with what Bush is doing,and somewhat to what he has done and the damaged incurred.NOW-they knew then,but still chose to vote republican.

[charlyvi]

8. Sullivan voted for Kerry last time.

Sullivan is appalled by the torture, really appalled. He felt shrub was more moderate (which shrub claimed to be in '00) than he really is. I don't know who Tucker voted for, but he probably hates shrub less than any dem.

[SoFlaJet]

10. Really?

wow I am truly impressed-maybe he didn't sign it or something-or voted down here...something ya know where the votes don't count or get counted

[charlyvi]

15. He voted for Kerry because of the torture and the

mishandling of Iraq, but don't think he isn't a diehard conservative--in the "old" sense of the word. He also hated the way the shrubbies played the gay card to rein in the religious right. But don't think for a minute he's a Democrat--not in this lifetime.

[DistressedAmerican]

14. In The End, I Do Not Care That Sullivan Voted Kerry.

He spent the entire campaign telling America how great the guy is. He is a sickening hypocrite. He should be ashamed of himself.

I also hope he never gets laid again. What gay man would want to be with a Bush lover?

[charlyvi]

16. In '00, he did spend his time glorifying shrub,

with that romance-novel type prose of his. But in '04 he left the reservation due to the gay bashing, torture and mishandling of Iraq. Of course, he's a conservative through and through and will crawl back on his knees as soon as they throw him a bone or two. (heh, no pun intended)

[SoFlaJet]

18. that's what I meant

I NEVER heard Sullivan say one GOOD thing about Kerry or one bad thing about Bush.He can SAY he voted for Kerry,but what he did or does behind that curtain is a whole nuther thang

[charlyvi]

23. Um. Here goes:

Real Time with Bill Maher, Episode 35:

"And the truth is, you read their platform, they think that gay people like me are disgusting people that try to attack their families. Well, we've got news for them. We are your families... We live in your families. And this administration is anti-family and anti-family values for doing this, dividing families up on the basis of religious ideology. It disgusts me and appalls me. And that Dick Cheney, whom I respect, would sacrifice his family for his politics, is, I think, one of the lowest acts you can do. And he should be ashamed." – Andrew Sullivan

www.andrewsullivan.com
We need investigations into the actions not just of Miller but also of Rumsfeld, and indeed all those who sanctioned the breaking of U.S. and military law that led to the debacle of Abu Ghraib. The JAG memos show a deliberate conspiracy to break the laws of the land under the specious argument that the president is above the law in times of war. The response of the government was to scapegoat a handful of grunts who were just doing what they were authorized to do - from the very top.

Some criticism on shrub's debate performance:
BUSH'S BLATHER: But he was also evidently flailing at times. Throwing around the old "liberal" label was hackneyed and seemed a substitute for argument. His distortion of Kerry's healthcare plan didn't flirt with being mendacious; it was an outright lie. His answer on the environment sounded okay but isn't going to convince anyone. That he has to concede the complete absence of WMDs in Iraq is inevitably brutal on him and his argument about the war. The facts are simply against him, and it shows. He had absolutely no answer on his spending spree. None. If you're a one-issue voter on fiscal responsiblity, Kerry is obviously your man; and this debate rammed that point home. And then there were some simply bizarre moments. Does anyone in America ever use the term "internets"? Plural? I've never heard anyone in my life use this formulation. The mandatory malapropism: Bush promised at one point that he'd be more "facile" in future. That's going to be a hard promise to keep. After four years of defending the homeland, the president should also not be giving soundbites like "I'm worried. I'm worried about our country." Hey, Mr president. Join the gang. And then ythere was the hilarious answer on the judicial appointments. Bush won't appoint anyone who still believes in the Dredd Scott decision. That's a relief. But, to be honest, it's the kind of question a high-school president might give, not the president of the United States. Bush's biggest failure was to detail Kerry's record, rather than just describing it as "liberal". "Show, not tell" is a good rule of thumb for effective criticism. And then there was the inevitable "mistakes" question. Bush didn't answer it - except to say he wish he hadn't hired Paul O'Neill. You'd think by now he'd have some kind of answer. But he seems to think he is incapable of error. That, in fact, is an obvious part of the problem.



I don't like Sullivan, but credit where credit is due. At least he doesn't babble on with rationalizations of any lie shrub tells as does Rush, Hannity, Coulter and Ingraham.

[jobycom]

12. I wouldn't be sure he voted for Bush. Remember, Carlson is the one

who did the interview for Talk magazine where Bush mocked Karla Faye Tucker's death. He wrote an article that exposed Bush as a spoiled, immature frat boy with no experience.

He's never liked Bush. One reason he sucked so bad on Crossfire was because the producers made him support views he didn't hold. When he left the show, he said he wanted a format where he could write his own views, instead of saying what he was told, and said he wanted to be more like Pat Buchanan.

So I'm not so sure he voted for Bush. He may have said he did, but I know he was really bothered by having to support him.

I'm not saying that makes him a nice guy or a good analyst or anything. Just that it explains some of what he says.

[drduffy]

13. great pic

I wish there were a way to turn this into a small poster that I could post everywhere in my small town.

[Cleita]

17. Yes, before the November 2004 elections,

he said on Larry King that he was voting for John Kerry. :wow:

It's too bad he still takes a position defending the right, which makes him a Bush supporter defacto.

[Mr_Spock]

20. Yeah, he shocked me a few times back when I used to watch Crossfire

He has at times been very critical of the Bush administration - then he supports them when the chips are down - he's schizophrenic.

[bushisanidiot]

3. You're probably right. Tucker Carlson is a big phoney. He is a bandwagon

jumper and will swing the other way if it looks inevitable that the country is turning on AWOL Bush.. which it IS!!

[annerevere]

4. He has said before that the war was a mistake

I've heard him say this more than once on Crossfire.

[thebigidea]

6. which makes his constant whiny defense of Bush seem pretty fucking mental

what a snivelling little phony.

[charlyvi]

9. Agreed. He gets paid for representing the rw position.

But he doesn't always agree with it, which makes him an even bigger hypocrit in my book.

[Mizmoon]

5. Fucker is such a weasel

I just had to say it ...

[DistressedAmerican]

11. He Generally Opposes The War. He's Still A Giant Fucking Douchebgag!

Fuck you Tucker!

[Buns_of_Fire]

21. Another "Douchebag for Liberty"???

Is there some kind of organization like that? douchebagsforliberty-dot-com or something? Or is it just a auxiliary organization to the GOP/PNAC? Did Novak recruit him? Did he at least get a free toaster oven out of the deal? (So many questions. So little time.)

That being said, I have to admit that T.C. was pretty consistent (while he was on Crossfire) in opposing the Iraq War Bush's-Wild-Hair-Up-His-Ass War.

[kliljedahl]

19. Who?

Keith’s Barbeque Central

[Swamp Rat]

25. This creature:

Just finished it. :D

[kliljedahl]

26. Another masterpiece from Swampy

Keith’s Barbeque Central

[Ilsa]

22. I don't mind Tucker anywhere near as much as

I despise The Douchbag for Liberty (Novak) and I hated to see him leave Crossfire, but glad he's back on MSNBC. I'd rather have him representing the right than Nofacts. I also appreciated the fact that he didn't hide that story about Gov. Bush making fun of Karla Faye Tucker after executing her when he did his 1999 interview for Talk magazine.

[BIG Sean]

24. Tucker has not waffled on this

He has been against the war in Iraq since before we invaded.