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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:16 PM
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Will they filibuster or roll over (again)?
If this guy isn't an "exceptional circumstance" it's beyond my imagination to think of someone who would be without resurrecting Cotton Mather.

I guess we'll see if the infamous 7 will come out swinging or cringing.

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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:29 PM
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1. I think that they will
continue to hold on firmly to their right to filibuster -- they only have ONE, y'know. And holding on to it with all of their might is extremely important. Because if they use it, they lose it.

Or, um, something like that.




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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:34 PM
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2. Rool over! They have no guts. How did I become the member of
a party with so few fighters?
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MidnightWind Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:35 PM
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3. Amen to that. I predict they'll roll over too.
Remember how hard we had to fight to get them to listen to us re Dean? There's this damned beltway mentality and they seem to think that NOT fighting is the best way to "get along" with the GOP. It's how we've lost the last 2 elections. Well, that and voter fraud. :eyes:
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:46 PM
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4. They need to put their foot down and fillibuster now!
Yes, the Rethugs might go "nuclear" and overrule it. If they do, then the "deal" is out the window. But it won't stop with just fillibustering the hearings on the nominee. It will continue, as Reid had threatened earlier, to fillibuster any other government business being discussed in congress. Pass NOTHING! Now if they go nuclear there, and if this court nominee gets exposed for the extremist he is that a majority of Americans don't want, they will realize that the Democrats are fighting the good fight. This will be what brings the Rethugs that continue to "go nuclear" on Democrats as going down in 2006. If and when the Congress changes hands in 2006, then we don't have to change the rules through creative means to shut down debate from the then minority Rethugs. The "nuclear" effects in other areas of legislation in terms of new rules will already be in place and won't need any creative assistance by Dick Cheney to put in place then. We just shut down the Rethugs after that and undo the damage at that point.

It will be hard to undo a supreme court nomination. Certainly that will be some lasting damage. Make sure and nominate a very YOUNG and HEALTHY judge to replace Ruth Bader Ginsberg when she retires once Bush is out. Don't let the Rethugs advise you to nominate another unhealthy and older judge.

But if the supreme court is extreme enough, history has given us extreme responses to respond to those challenges. Certainly we've had assassination attempts (successful and no) on presidents. Perhaps some nut will go after one of these right wing judges too, once Bush is out of office, if they become to "Rethuglican activist" on us. I'm certainly not advocating this, but with the wide variety of people we have in the world, I certainly wouldn't eliminate this possibility from happening.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:47 PM
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5. I doubt elected Democrats will unite and fight
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 07:47 PM by Democat
Why would they start now?

If they would have fought for the last five years Bush wouldn't even be in office right now.

Didn't they already approve this judge once?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:49 PM
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6. roll now
filibuster the next one.
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JackNicholson Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:52 PM
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7. Maybe he isn't that bad? According the the AP:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050719/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_bush


AP: Roberts' nomination to the appellate court attracted support from both sites of the ideological spectrum. Some 126 members of the District of Columbia Bar, including officials of the Clinton administration, signed a letter urging his confirmation. The letter said Roberts was one of the "very best and most highly respected appellate lawyers in the nation" and that his reputation as a "brilliant writer and oral advocate" was well deserved.
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realms Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:55 PM
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8. back to pre-rationalty
No! you can't compromise with insanity. Just because their lives are lacking in meaning it does't give them purchase over mine. I know I'm right.
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