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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:06 PM
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The distraction of Supreme Court nomination is working.....even here.
The distraction is working. 8 out of 10 titles on Latest are about Roberts.

Let's not let them do this. I know Bush is paying the religious right back with this nomination, and we will fight it. Don't lose sight of what is weakening them NOW... please?

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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:07 PM
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1. I'm with you 100%
Hoping that Olbermann gives Traitorgate plenty of coverage tonight, now that the "suspense" of the SC pick is over.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:10 PM
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7. oops wrong thread - self delete
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 07:11 PM by kliljedahl
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:07 PM
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2. That's right.
Valerie Plame for US Supreme Court!
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:08 PM
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3. Oh, sorry. I forgot how trivial the Supreme Court is.
A lifetime appointment can't mean much.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:09 PM
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4. Wow.... nice much?
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:12 PM
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14. I didn't intend to be mean, but this is about the 20th thread that has
asserted that the Supreme Court nominee is far less worthy of our attention than the Plame outing.

I don't think that assertion is correct at all.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:25 PM
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26. thanks... I understand that. I didn't mean one is more or less important
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:11 PM
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11. It is important, but I think the point is we can not distract ourselves
from the bigger picture. There is nothing we can do about a nominee, but we can demand the "leaker" stay in the middle ring of this 3 ring circus and that's what we should concentrate on.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:14 PM
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15. "There is nothing we can do about a nominee."
Remember Robert Bork?

I would suggest that there is nothing we can do to influence Patrick Fitgerald and the Grand Jury in the Plame investigation.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:14 PM
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16. Agreed ...
obviously it's very important. I didn't mean to even hint at the fact that it wasn't. That would be absurd. You definetely said it better than I did. LOL
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:10 PM
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5. Yeah, it's just a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land
And it's not like the Supreme Court does anything important like, you know, interpret the Constitution or anything.

:eyes:
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:10 PM
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6. The SCOTUS is big news and while we're "distracted" for a couple days
nobody is going to forget about the traitors in the Administration, certainly not Fitzgerald.

david
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Fiona Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:10 PM
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8. What does it matter?
The special prosecutor isn't basing his case on Democratic Underground, OR on what's being reported on CNN. He'll do his job regardless of what the day's headlines are.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:10 PM
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9. Are you joking? A SCOTUS judge has will have a profound effect on the US
for the next 20 years. The Rove thing will be big when indictments come down. Until then this is FAR more important.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:11 PM
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10. Rove isn't DSM
Rove is a legal process that will proceed with indictments. It won't wither on the vine if we take time to express outrage at the latest decision of the most divisive president in history.
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:11 PM
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12. What we cant fight multiply issues? are we that limited???
last time i checked i can walk and chew gum.. I'm sure we can focus on more than one thing..
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xynthee Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:12 PM
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13. Just give us a little while
We can't afford to ignore this, either. As long as we recognize it for what it is - a distraction - we'll be OK!!

As soon as I find out everything I need to know (hopefully it won't take more than reading a few posts at DU), I'll get back to Rove/Plame/Delay/new Abu Ghraib photos and videos/election fraud/9-11/7-7/Iraq/Iran, etc. I promise!!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:14 PM
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17. Some of us are capable of thinking about more than one thing at a time.
I fully intend to concentrate on the SC nominee because yes, it may be a diversion, but Chimpy threw out a stink bomb and I sure as hell don't want the spend my twilight years living under a crazy fundy court simply because no one was paying attention. He'd get his pick in by default that way.

And even if Rove is indicted (yeah, right) he's never going to serve day one in jail anywhere. And so what if he gets fired. Think that's really going to make a difference? (I doubt he'll even get fired.)

So yes, I'll pay attention to the latest comings and going of Plamegate, but I'll also worry about the SCOTUS, the war, the deficit, the photos that they are supposed to release (but never will), and a million and one things that are, believe it or not, far more important than seeing KKKarl being bailed out by bush*** for outing a CIA agent.

And just in case you were going to say that one of the the main things about KKKarlgate is that it proves how sleezy dishonest these people are, most of us have known that for a long time.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:20 PM
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21. Your last line is ridiculous.
You clearly don't know me, so the assumption you just made reflects on you.

I can see some people in this thread are not insulted by my post which was really sharing a concern, not implying that this isn't important as is, the war..per your example. But some people apparently were not happy with my concern. I can't help that, sorry.

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:40 PM
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30. You're making the assumptions here. You assume that people are
incapable of only concentrating on one issue at a time. You are also the one who's taken it upon themselves to tell everyone what they should be concerned about. And if my post reflects on me, then good. I meant it when I said that there are far bigger fish to fry than KKKarl, which isn't going to go anywhere anyway. Having a boss with the power of the pardon is like having an ace in the hole.

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:16 PM
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18. We could not prevent this; we MUST fight on two fronts now...
if we are going to oppose this nomination.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:24 PM
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25. I know. it's like we are surrounded. One issue on top of the other.
You are right, and I do believe in the people winning in the long run. It's such a long road though, isn't it?
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:51 PM
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35. It is, halobeam -- I completely understand your frustration. nt
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:17 PM
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19. Gee, I'm so stupid I can't handle two issues at once.
Thank you for pointing that out to me.

:eyes:

Don't worry. Rove's not going away. This Roberts thing is a Hail Mary pass with no one downfield. The game's almost over.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:19 PM
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20. How many times will this type of thread be posted??
We can walk and chew gum at the same time. Both issues are VERY important. Rovegate isn't going away.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:21 PM
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22. I hope you're not seriously concerned that...
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 07:22 PM by pmbryant
we are paying close attention to a person who may well be making decisions that affect all of our lives for the next 20-30 years.

--Peter
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:23 PM
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23. We won't lose site of Rove and The DSM but we
must be viligant about this nominee, for women, he is a killer....
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:24 PM
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24. Ummmm....... if I take some time to look into Roberts....
something tells me that won't affect Fitzgerald's investigation.
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DWolper Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:26 PM
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27. Don't be silly
This only happens once a decade (on average). To expect people to be talking about anything else right now is ridiculous. Bush hasn't even officially announced the pick yet! A Supreme Court appointment is IMPORTANT - whether we as a group like the choice or not. Reality check!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:26 PM
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28. you mean Fitzgerald dropped the investigation???
NOT
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:32 PM
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29. Rove and the SCJ pick are of equal importance, its how we deal with
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:46 PM
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31. Nah, this is just an immediate response. One hour does not a trend make.
It's all still speculation. Hell if Ninny-boy actually had the spine he oh-so-wants people to think he does, he'd nominate Robert Bork or Ken Starr.

There will be splitting of focus on this, that's to be expected, but the other major issues like the DSM and Plame-o-rama are on many peoples' minds.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:48 PM
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32. Oh give Rove a break already
I know he's going to be indicted.

The press knows he's going to be indicted.

The White House knows he's going to be indicted.

Hell, Olberman started the Karl Rove Puppet Theater tonight, so he knows this one is going to be dragged out forever.

The story won't go away because another angry white man is going to be on the court.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:49 PM
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33. SCOTUS and Roe v Wade are a "distraction"?
As compared to (maybe) getting Rove fired and Boobya embarassed?

Hell, Rove has been a "distraction" from the slaughter in Iraq.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:50 PM
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34. Would you be happier if every last thread on DU was about ROVE?
Can you trust that we can think about more than one thing at a time... please?
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:51 PM
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36. Quick, let's make it 20. What difference does it make?
This always happens with breaking news, what did you expect?
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cassandra uprising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:02 PM
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37. You think something like this is as insignificant as "a distraction"?
Sure it's politically timed - that's because it's a political move, after all.
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:21 PM
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38. This JUST happened though.
Interesting week ahead.
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