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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:48 PM
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John Roberts said ROE v WADE was wrongly decided in the past!!
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 06:58 PM by Nimble_Idea
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:49 PM
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1. OMG here we go
I was scared of it being Edith Jones but this guy may be another nightmare.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:49 PM
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2. The Dems better fight this guy with everything, including the fillibuster
Robert's is pretty young, isn't he? And replacing the first woman with yet another white male? cm'on.
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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:50 PM
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3. FILIBUSTER NOW!!
!!!!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:51 PM
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6. It Will Be Our Last Filibuster, So Make It Good!
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:50 PM
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4. Since he is a white male
he will be easier to filibuster
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:50 PM
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5. Goodness, I'm surprised John Roberts could even speak...
with his nose shoved so far up Junior's wazoo...
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:52 PM
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7. Do you have any links to that
I can't find that info on him....
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:55 PM
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8. I found some info-he is definitely against Abortion
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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:56 PM
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10. thanks
tk
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:55 PM
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9. Link to John Roberts Bio- Anti Abortion and Anti environment.
Need we say more? We're in deep shit but that's no surprise.

http://www.independentjudiciary.com/nominees/nominee.cfm?NomineeID=5

"Snip"

Reproductive Rights. s a Deputy Solicitor General, Mr. Roberts co-wrote a Supreme Court brief in Rust v. Sullivan,1 for the first Bush administration, which argued that the government could prohibit doctors in federally-funded family planning programs from discussing abortions with their patients. The brief not only argued that the regulations were constitutional, notwithstanding the Supreme Court's decision in Roe v. Wade, but it also made the broader argument that Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided - an argument unnecessary to defend the regulation. The Supreme Court sided with the government on the narrower grounds that the regulation was constitutional.

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Environmental Issues. As a student, Mr. Roberts wrote two law review articles arguing for an expansive reading of the Contracts and Takings clauses of the Constitution, taking positions that would restrict Congress' ability to protect the environment. As a member of the Solicitor General's office, Mr. Roberts was the lead counsel for the United States in the Supreme Court case Lujan v. National Wildlife Federation, in which the government argued that private citizens could not sue the federal government for violations of environmental regulations.

As a lawyer in private practice, Mr. Roberts has also represented large corporate interests opposing environmental controls. He submitted an amicus brief on behalf of the National Mining Association in the recent case Bragg v. West Virginia Coal Association

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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:56 PM
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11. thanks
tk
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:57 PM
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12. Roe vs. Wade is the law of the land
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 06:59 PM by bluestateguy
and has been for 32 years. It is precedent. It is the law. It's conservative to follow the ruling because it is the law of the land. To overturn the law by judicial fiat would be an act of judicial activism.
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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:57 PM
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14. lol
NO they have come to reverse activism!
:eyes:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:57 PM
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13. This guy is only 50 years old...
He's be on the USSC for a looooooong time.

Obviously, the pResident just threw a juicy bone to the fundies.

Who's that calling Harry Reid's cell phone?

Why! It's Phil...Phil I Buster.

Call him back immediately Mr. Reid!

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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:06 PM
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19. Yes, just like the little smurf, trying to install something for life
FILI IT NOW!!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:58 PM
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15. This is the first USSC confirmation battle under the internet's existence
You would think the White House staff at least had the common sense to do a google search on their man.

These bloggers are damn good at what they do when it comes to finding information, and fast.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:00 PM
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16. Careful with that...Ruth Bader-Ginsburg said much the same. Bush could be
throwing this guy out there for the fundies, but, he may be not as much on their wavelength as they believe.

He is definitely a corporatist, though.

In Ginsburg's case, she didn't think Roe v Wade decision was as well thought out as it should have been. Her point is made every time a challenge to Roe v Wade comes up for decision. A decision that addressed every detail and argument would have been preferrable.

Alot of judges have hidden their own feelings about R v W behind their dissatisfaction with the way the ruling was handled and written.
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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:00 PM
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17. THIS IS A SMOKE SCREEN FOR KARL KKK ROVE!!
The worst Pdent ever. Now it is confirmed.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:05 PM
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18. Not to defend the guy
because I don't know enough about him, but the quote about "Roe being wrongly decided" was made in a brief he submitted while in the Solicitor General's Office in the first Bush Administration. That was his client's position. I am not at all saying he doesn't hold the same views, but as to that particular quote, you can't necessarily attribute the opinion to him when he is advocating on behalf of his client.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:08 PM
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20. Wasn't Bush I pro-choice?
Nt
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:17 PM
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22. Maybe personally, but never publicly, and certainly never as
official policy. Again, I am not defending the guy, there are probably other examples where he has shown his cards on his personal belief about Roe. I am only saying that advocating a position as a lawyer is different than taking a public position or even making a ruling as a judge, and I believe that that quote was made in his role as an advocate.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:10 PM
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21. Naral's old fact sheet on John Roberts included the statements below:
Naral's old fact sheet on John Roberts included the statements below:


NARAL: REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM & CHOICE JUNE 2001
John G. Roberts, Jr.
Previously nominated by President George Bush to the United States
Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, 1992.
Principal Deputy Solicitor General of the United States, 1989-93.

"The Court was so accustomed to the Solicitor General and the Deputy Solicitor General arguing for the overturn of Roe that during John Roberts¡¦ oral argument before the Supreme Court in Bray, a Justice asked, ¡§Mr. Roberts, in this case are you asking that Roe v. Wade be overruled?¡¨ He responded, ¡§No, your honor, the issue doesn¡¦t even come up.¡¨ To this the justice said, ¡§Well that hasn¡¦t prevented the Solicitor General from taking that position in prior cases.¡¨Transcript of Oral Argument of John Roberts, Jr., dated Oct. 16, 1991, Bray v. Alexandria Women¡¦s Health Clinic, 506 U.S. 263 (1993) (No. 90-985).

As Deputy Solicitor General, Roberts argued in a brief before the U.S. Supreme Court (in a case that did not implicate Roe v. Wade) that ¡§e continue to believe that Roe was wrongly decided and should be overruled¡K. he Court¡¦s conclusion in Roe that there is a fundamental right to an abortion¡K finds no support in the text, structure, or history of the Constitution.¡¨Brief for the Respondent at 13, Rust v. Sullivan, 500 U.S. 173 (1991) (Nos. 89-1391, 89-1392).
In Rust v. Sullivan -500 U.S. 173 (19917), the Supreme Court considered whether Department of Health and Human Services regulations limiting the ability of Title X recipients to engage in abortion-related activities violated various constitutional provisions. Roberts, appearing on behalf of HHS as Deputy Solicitor General, argued that this domestic gag rule did not violate constitutional protections.ƒnRoberts, again as Deputy Solicitor General, argued as amicus curiae for the United States supporting Operation Rescue and six other individuals who routinely blocked access to reproductive health care clinics, arguing that the
protesters¡¦ behavior did not amount to discrimination against women even though only women could exercise the right to seek an abortion. Intervening as amicus is a wholly discretionary decision on the part of the Solicitor General. Here the government chose to involve itself in a case in support of those who sought to deprive women of the right to choose. Roberts argued that the protesters¡¦ blockade and protests merely amounted to an expression of their opposition to abortion and that a civil rights remedy was therefore inappropriate.

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