Am I the ONLY one here who gives less than a shit about who * picks

[CatWoman]

for SCOTUS?

We have bigger fish to fry.

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm

fried fish.............

[Mr_Spock]

1. I'm gonna have to care about more than one thing at a time

I think I can handle it :D

[CatWoman]

4. !

McCoy: Shouldn't you be working on your time warp calculations, Mr Spock?
Spock: I am. (He resumes staring into space)

~ Tomorrow is Yesterday

[Mr_Spock]

24. Funny how incredibly important this nomination was just a few weeks ago!!!

I really think the supreme court nomination is, in reality, more important than Rove's stuff - which will not stop since he is going to be indicted at some point. I think it's funny how we can only discuss one issue here, or can we?

I've already pointed out that this is a distraction http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4133237&mesg_id=4133237 - it doesn't meant that it's not important though!

[CatWoman]

28. you can discuss anything you like

I'm just trying to inject some logic.

[Mr_Spock]

31. You are very logical there CAT woman!

Having a cat tell Mr. Spock what is logical - well, I got a chuckle :D

:rofl:

[CatWoman]

34. Live long and prosper

:D

[Mr_Spock]

35. Meow!

:D :beer:

[skylarmae]

2. I'm with you

All this speculation. sickening...

[Raksha]

3. Nope, you're not the only one!

I agree we have bigger fish to fry...all bottom feeders, unfortunately.

[LSdemocrat]

5. Perhaps because I'm a law student, I care about the nominee

We can't afford to let any more ultra right wing ideologues onto the court. Not only is Roe v. Wade in danger, we could also see nearly every government program and civil rights law, going back to the New Deal, become endangered through an ultraconservative interpretations of the Constitution.

[leftynyc]

25. I agree

Long term...this is much more important. The Grand Jury is going to do their thing regardless.

[Just Me]

42. As a law student, you have yet to learn how to assemble,....

,...legal precedent on the books, humanity off the books and the powers that be who don't give a shit about either of the foregoing.

I'm not knocking your passion (am frankly quite grateful for it). However, now is the time to unite in important common causes which are clearly imperative to our future.

Ridding ourselves of this tyranny is on the top of the list (please, believe me on that,...after all, if they remain in power they will nominate more than one justice). Plummeting a profiteering media that no longer values the interests of our people is another biggie.

[theHandpuppet]

53. Thank you!

I can't believe there are folks here who actually don't give a rat's ass about who gets appointed to the SC. Shame on you folks!

[Lex]

6. She'll sit on the bench for NEXT 30 years legislating Roe v. Wade

out of existence not to mention every civil liberty we've come to accept as the norm.

For the next 30 years!

What are the bigger fish you have to fry??!

[CatWoman]

8. I hate to see people falling for this diversion

as that's all it is.

It's not a given that his pick will make the court.

But it is a given that we were lied to. And are still being lied to. The Plame affair is all about those lies that got us into this "war".

[trumad]

9. No Cat... this is important

in my mind this is even bigger than Rove. But why can't to controversy's rage at the same time?

[CatWoman]

11. I guess Dana Bash was right

as all this will do is knock Rove off the front pages.

Knock yourselves out.

[Lex]

29. It is FAR MORE important than Rove, or Bush, or any one presidency.

Jesus, this person will adversely affecting the laws of the country for DECADES.

It absolutely transcends Rove's wrongdoing, but it doesn't mean Rove's lie aren't important.

[theHandpuppet]

54. Amen!

A big ditto to that!

[Just Me]

17. We can't STOP the appointment.

Why focus our energies on something we CAN'T control?

The confirmation hearings aren't gonna happen until Congress comes back in September. Why divert our energy from what is happening, NOW?

[DeepModem Mom]

7. I care. It's bringing home to me the stark reality of the consequences...

of Bush's grabbing a second term. A one-vote change on the current Court can make all the difference. Along with the other justices Bush will appoint, the difference could last a long, long time.

I'm with you in hoping with all I have in me that our bigger fish might bring these people down before they can do even more damage to our country and the world.

[Just Me]

10. Since I have NO control over who he appoints, I don't give a rat's ass.

When the confirmation hearings come up,...who knows when,...then, I'll expend my energy on that particular issue.

Right now, as you said, "we have bigger fish to fry."

I LUV fresh, fried fish. Yummy!!! }(

[CatWoman]

14. I like the cut of your gib

:D

[Just Me]

30. I am VERY interested in highly efficient investments,...

,...of my precious time. Prolly has something to do with the fact that, my investmests aren't about money or politics,...they are entirely about people and the democracy all people really do dream of. These days, everything that is "democracy" is labeled "socialism" by those who are human predators exploiting the rest of us,...those who have royally fucked up the greatest visions of humanity.

BAH!!! I went on a rant. Sorry about that. *blush*

[Booster]

21. Bingo! I'm with you. I only have so much energy left so have to

use it when necessary - right now I want them to concentrate on Rove/Cheney - if we get them fish fried, they can nominate, I repeat nominate, whomever they want. That fight is down the road and if we can get Bush stained as bad as I think we can with the stench of treason, even REAL Repugs won't vote for a bad nominee. Just my opinion.

[Swamp Rat]

12. Rove is a traitor

[jzodda]

13. I care...in fact US Supreme Court is most important branch of gov imo

Its decisons have the longest lasting effect on all of us. So a court which becomes extreme one way or the other is a total disaster. Being an attorney also makes it important to me on a professional level as well, but for me its mostly the long lasting effects good or ill that the court can have on our lives.

[Tactical Progressive]

15. Karl Rove getting canned

is more important than twenty years of extreme right-wing radicals making the laws for this country?

Fry yourself some fish and get over the craving.

[CatWoman]

18. I don't give a flying fuck about Rove getting canned

there is much, much more to the Rove story.

If you have access to last night's Charlie Rose, please watch it.

Now you go fry up something, You seem starved.

[Tactical Progressive]

20. I missed Chuckie last night

Give us a synopsis.

And I had fried fish yesterday.

[CatWoman]

23. I was at a meeting all day, but I did scribble some notes

they are in my car. When the rain lets up I'll go out and get them, and post in this thread.

[Raksha]

22. Under normal circumstances I'd care very much...

...but these aren't normal circumstances. It's much bigger than Karl Rove--there is some serious treason going on.

[Tactical Progressive]

37. There's been treason going on since the spring of 2001

when Bush and Cheney decided to leave America open to a terrorist attack. What all came of that?

Nothing. The establisment media in the country is not about to let anything serious happen to Bush. The best we get out of this politically is Rove 'steps down'. Whether Fitzgerald ushers him into a 9x12 or not, isn't going to stop these monsters.

The Supreme Court is a big, big deal.

[Raksha]

44. I know that, and if the Plame leak case goes where I think it will...

...EVERYTHING the Bush administration has done since December 2000 will be called into question, including their handling of 9/11 before, during and after. That's one of the reasons I think it's so important.

[Just Me]

46. How's about TYRANNICAL PIMPING OF AMERICA!!!!

Karl Rove. He's been the whore that hides his pimp.

Instead of trafficking sex, these pimps traffic humanity: manipulate them and abuse their lives for their profit.

Karl Rove is just an expensive HO riding the tide of his tyrannical pimps. He helped them recruit and was generously rewarded.

[Eric J in MN]

16. I care, but I'd rather wait until after the announcement to

give it a lot of attention.

[Lexingtonian]

19. Agreed....

This one doesn't matter as much as folks imagine.

Next summer is going to be different. Bigger, badder, and our way.

[bowens43]

38. Are you kidding?

O'Conner was the swing vote on the court. A solid Conservative in her position changes everything.

[Lexingtonian]

49. nope

Tony Kennedy is the real swing vote.

[merh]

26. I can multitask!

:hi:

[Zynx]

27. Supreme Court nominees are deadly serious business.

Turdblossom will get his ass in serious trouble in due time.

[bunny planet]

32. We can and we must focus on both the Treasongate and SCOTUS

nomination in the next few days, and can encourage our Senators, Congress people, and the press to stay on BOTH stories. Just because * says he's going to distract the press and knock Rove off the front page doesn't mean we have to let him get away with it.

Make the media continue covering Treasongate. 'It's hard work' but it'll be worth it. If they start to do all SCOTUS all the time, and ignore the other story, we should scream really loud in our letters and over the phone.

I don't know about you guys, but I've just about had all I can take of this teflon presidency and their control and destruction of our way of life and our country. It's now or never people.

[Placebo]

33. No, this is definitely the time TO CARE.

This person will help make or be the deciding vote on decisions and issues that effect Americans for the next few decades.

[bowens43]

36. bigger fish to fry??

There are no fish bigger then the supreme court.

[seabeyond]

39. we crossed this bridge when bush swore in

this was the reason not to elect him. he is elected and this is going to be the repercussion that stays with us for a long long time.

i let this go when he took second term. the people's voice in electing him that we will all pay for

[DefenseLawyer]

40. No offense

but the rulings of the Supreme Court will have a more lasting and substantial impact on our country than anything Pigboy could ever do. I know that is saying a lot, but it's true.

[Just Me]

57. If this tyrannical administration is left in place,...

,...there will be more than one appointment.

If this tyrannical administration is left in place, our civil liberties will be suspended and disappeared.

If this tyrannical administration is left in place, this country's advances over an entire century will be buried.

If this tyrannical administration is left in place, the interests of a powermongering few will be forced upon the many.

If this tyrannical administration is left in place, we may be guilty of allowing a fraud against our people to give their lives and treasure to global fascists who profit and exploit human weakness.

If this tyrannical administration is left in place,...the rest of the world will seek to destroy us and they WILL destroy us because we are merely 2% of the world's population. No matter the superior weapons, we will fall.

BIG PICTURE, "defenselawyer",...it's the big picture.

Are you really a defense lawyer or did you just take that name,...for whatever reason?

[DefenseLawyer]

58. I hear your point of view

but the fact remains that terrible administrations come and then they go. Now this one is terrible, maybe the worst in the history of the nation, but their their ability to fuck things up is limited by time and by some measure of checks and balances in the political system. I would certainly maintain that in the "big picture" the rulings of the Supreme Court in upholding (or diminishing) the Bill of Right and other Constitutional protections have far more impact not only on our daily lives but on the very nature of our society than anything Karl Rove might do. If you are saying that the Rove matter is going to get Bush impeached, therefore we can ignore this nomination and focus only on Rove, I would call that wishful thinking personally.

[Missy M]

41. I want the Rove/Plame story to stay right on top......

with everyone digging deeper, perhaps right to Cheney and we can have another Watergate type scandal with many involved, including bush. This is important right now and must keep going. We cannot stop who bush picks for SCOTUS now and when Rehnquist goes and it's sad but true. We must show what liars bush and his gang are and keep on how they lied to the American people to get us into the Iraq War. This is so important.

[CatWoman]

43. ....

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/07/19/link_to_cheney_deepens_145leak_gate146_scandal/

[Missy M]

47. Thank you CatWoman, I had not read this article and it is great...

to have a newspaper finally writing an oped on what really happened. Do you suppose the Boston Globe is doing this because of Santorum's remarks regarding the church abuses?

[CatWoman]

50. it appears that all of those guys are finally waking up

it started with Dan Rather, and one by one, they were dropping like flies -- all because of the WH sliming them.

[Missy M]

52. I am still not over what happened to Dan Rather...

because in my opinion he merely told the truth about bush's service record in the TANG. I can't believe Rove and company got away with what they did. I think the MSM journalists of today (with a few exceptions) are worthless. How can they be that afraid of the White House. Of course they are employed by huge corporations and the corporations love bush.

[Tactical Progressive]

45. Traitorgate is all of our favorite story.

Find me someone on this board that doesn't want this to play out all the way through Cheney stepping down and Bush being incriminated in the treason himself.

That's quite a bit different than the op premise that this SC appointment is something that we shouldn't 'give less than a shit about'.

[Missy M]

48. I care very much about this SC appointment but as I stated there is..

nothing we can do about it. bush has the position to pick who he wants to. It is very scary regarding the direction of the Supreme Court and we know Rehnquist won't be around long, so that makes it even worse, but that's the way the system works. It will affect us for many, many years to come.

[Tactical Progressive]

51. You've got that pretty much backwards

Traitorgate is a legal proceeding about which there is 'nothing we can do about it'. It is not subject to public opinion.

A Supreme Court appointment is a political action which is somewhat dependent upon public opinion.

I think we should push both issues as hard as possible, but politics isn't going to affect Fitzgerald and the grand jury. It might affect a Supreme Court candidate.

[Missy M]

55. I wish what you have to say regarding public opinion was true....

but I'm afraid most of the American people don't give a damn. I just heard bush is appointing John Roberts, very conservative and very young. Also just heard he is very well liked. Afraid he will probably be confirmed.

[electron_blue]

56. You're probably not the only one, but I think this is big fish

Don't forget how we got into this mess in the first place - SCOTUS 2000