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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:25 AM
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CNN just said Edith Brown Clement is name rampant in DC for SCOTUS.
I looked her up on Google.

It's very hard to tell what she's really like.

http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Edith_Brown_Clement
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:29 AM
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1. Saw Novak pushing that name a few weeks ago on CNN....
I take that as a bad sign. If Novak likes her, what does that tell you?
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:29 AM
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2. Well she's part of the Federalist Society
The two Supremes in the Federalist Society?

Scalia and Rhenquist.

Methinks I smell a judge who has avoided certain cases in order to appear to be something she isn't...
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:35 AM
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5. Yeah, but she still seems *relatively* moderate
Granted, it's all relative.

The Federalist Society item doesn't bode well. But compared to Janice Rogers Brown or Pricilla Owen, she appears to be relatively sane.

This might be as moderate as we could hope to get from Bush.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:43 AM
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8. Yeah but my point is it could be a ruse
These bastards think long term. Daddy appointed her to the court in 91, maybe they said "lay low, don't take controversial cases, stay clear of abortion, look moderate...and we'll reward you."

So she does, and 14 years later, sonny boy comes along and says "oh hey you want a moderate? Fine, see how nice I am? Here you go."

Then she goes on the court and becomes the most conservative one there. It's happened before, one way or the other.
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:48 AM
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10. Understood.
But then again, look at O'Connor. She turned out to be far more moderate than Ronnie would have hoped.

I'm trying to remain optimistic here. The idea of shrub having the potential to nominate two or three justices to the court, including a chief justice, literally scares the shit out of me. I'm inclined to count my blessings that he didn't just nominate Owens or Brown or someone equally insane.
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GR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:32 AM
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3. I Could Care Less....To Me It's All Rovergate All The Time....
they want you to focus on the winger he nominates to eliminate privacy from the Constitution but I'm not gonna...
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:32 AM
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4. If this is true, it looks like Bush is trying to avoid a fight
He's been bruised up enough lately.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:37 AM
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6. Google suggest Judge Edith Clement is anti-abortion/very conservative
anti-abortion - but will not directly overturn Roe v Wade

finds from google:

"I received the following email this morning from a reliable source and long-time SA reader:

Morning ....,

Our office got a call yesterday from __________ of the with questions on Judge Clement. She’s on the short-short list, apparently, and she’s one of us. Things are looking good!"

and:

Profile of Potential Supreme Court Nominee - Judge Edith Brown Clement
Brief biography:
Judge Clement currently sits on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. Prior to her appointment by President George W. Bush, she was a judge on the U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Louisiana (1991-2001) and a lawyer with Jones, Walker, Waechter, Poitevent, Carrere & Denegre in New Orleans (1975-1991).

Judge Clement was born in Birmingham Alabama in 1948. She attended the University of Alabama and Tulane Law School. She clerked for Judge Herbert W. Christenberry, a U.S. District Court judge for the Eastern District of Louisiana.

Notable opinions:
A majority opinion in Vogler v. Blackmore, 352 F.3d 150 (5th Cir. 2003), reducing a jury verdict for pain and suffering damages to the estates of a mother and three-year old daughter killed when an eighteen-wheel tractor trailer crossed the highway center-line and ran over their car. The damages to the mother were reduced from $200,000 to $30,000 and the pain and suffering award for the daughter was eliminated entirely based on the lack of specific evidence about the daughter's "awareness of the impending collision."

and
So Long Sandra, Hello Edith?

July 11, 2005 Supreme Court Vacancies

<snip>Edith Jones has the sharper definition as a conservative, tagged as pro-life in her perspective, and she is bound to draw the heaviest fire. Joy Clement, in contrast, would be a harder target: Her own specialty was in maritime law; she has not dealt, in her opinions, with the hot-button issues of abortion and gay rights; and she has stirred no controversies in her writings or in her speeches off the bench. She would be the most disarming nominee, and it would be a challenge even for Ralph Neas or Moveon.org to paint her as an ogre who could scare the populace. The main unease would come in the family of conservatives: If people don't know her personally, they will suspect another Souter or Kennedy. For they have seen the hazard in relying on the assurances given even by the most reliable conservatives, who claim they can vouch for the nominee. <snip>


And what is that most important work? For the conservatives, the most consequential shift would come in flipping the decision on Stenberg v. Carhart (2000) and upholding the federal ban on partial-birth abortion. Either one of the Ediths would guarantee that outcome; and in my own reckoning, such a decision on partial-birth abortion would virtually bring to an end the Roe v. Wade regime. For it would send up a signal to legislatures throughout the country that the Court was now open for business in sustaining many varieties of restriction on abortion. They might be measures to require the method of abortion most likely to preserve the life of the child, or measures actually to bar abortions late in pregnancy, or abortions ordered up because of the likely disabilities or afflictions of the child (e.g., Down's syndrome, spina bifida). Just whether or when Roe v. Wade is actually, explicitly overturned may cease to matter quite as much. For in the meantime, the public would have the chance to get used to a continuing train of laws restricting and regulating abortion. Ordinary people would be drawn in to talk again about the circumstances under which abortions may be justified. And that talk, among ordinary folk, will become more and more common because those they elect, sitting in local legislatures, will be enfranchised again to pass laws and make judgments on these matters.

If that sense of things is right, then it could make a notable difference if the decision that upholds the law on partial-birth abortion -- and the decision turning the law on abortion onto a different axis -- were written and announced by a woman. That is not to give in to the small-mindedness that is everywhere about us. For there are enough clichés abounding, tagging the right to abortion as "a woman's right." The cliché masks the fact that women, in the aggregate, have ever been more reserved about abortion than men, and that the strongest support for abortion has steadily come from middle- and upper-class white men. When the Court begins to explain again the grounds for protecting children in the womb, that account may produce a more lasting resonance if the explanation comes from a woman. At the same time, we could only run the risk of feeding the worst clichés in our politics if the only woman on the Court was Ruth Ginsberg, and if the Voice of the Woman on the Court spoke only in the accents of the Left. The commentators who have been clamoring these days for "balance" on the Court have not exactly been clamoring for a balance between women. And yet it would be no descent into a low politics to show that a woman’s perspective may express itself in an attachment to the moral tradition and to a conservative jurisprudence. <snip>
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The implication is that this is the best Bush will offer up! Does not seem much of a compromise until you think about Edith Jones of the 5th! So should we be cheering somebody who is for reducing liability judgements and would nibble away at regulating abortions to make Roe v. Wade irrelavant?



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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:38 AM
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7. Freepers already disturbed!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1445955/posts

Doesnt sound like their kinda gal...
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:45 AM
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9. Sounds like they want someone who will support the constitution!
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 09:47 AM by calipendence
I say fine! Let's see her do that and overturn Santa Clara vs. Southern Pacific Railroad and get rid of the "judicial activist" head note from that case that has incorrectly interpreted the constitution to establish "corporate personhood". If she's wanting to support that kind of constitutional support, she's OK in my book! If not, then it will expose her for her support of the constitution being only done on a partisan basis.
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:58 AM
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11. Hopefully, She'll Turn Out Like Souter...
Poppa Bush "misjudged" his one honorable tapped judge. Perhaps, dimwitted Junior will follow suit. :thumbsup:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:41 AM
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12. In any case, Clement is kinda pretty...
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 11:45 AM by IanDB1
God save her from Clarence Thomas!


CLEMENT: "No, Clarence, that is not my pubic hair in your Coke. I don't have any pubic hair."

To: gopwinsin04
What are we going to do if there is no fight from the democrats? I will lay awake at night wondering what we did wrong. In fact, if they don't throw a fit, I think I am going to be upset. What is wrong with me?
28 posted on 07/19/2005 7:30:12 AM PDT by Tenacious 1
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:47 AM
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13. Background from slate.com
Age: 57
Graduated from: Tulane Law School.
She's now: a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit (appointed 2001).

Her confirmation battle: Clement doesn't provide much ammunition for opposition groups, but perhaps not much for conservatives to get excited about either. She hasn't written anything notable off the bench, and most of her judicial decisions have been in relatively routine and uncontroversial cases.

Environmental Protection and Property Rights
Voted for the 5th Circuit to rehear a decision blocking developers from building on a site where six endangered bug species lived in a cluster of limestone caves. Clement joined a dissent that argued that the decision's rationale for protecting the bugs—to preserve the interdependent web of species—bore no relationship to Congress' power to regulate interstate commerce.

Habeas Corpus
Over a dissent, ruled that a death-row inmate who claimed to be mentally retarded was entitled to a lawyer to develop that claim in a habeas petition. Clement's ruling followed the Supreme Court's 2002 decision barring the execution of the mentally retarded.

For a unanimous panel, reversed a decision of the district court finding that a police officer convicted of civil rights violation, for hitting a drunk suspect in the head with his baton, was entitled to a new trial because his lawyer was ineffective. The officer argued that his lawyer erred by failing to call character witnesses to rebut testimony that he'd complained about the need to control Mexicans in the United States. Clement said the rebuttal evidence would have been irrelevant because the officer was not charged with a hate crime.

More:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2121270/?nav=ais#ContinueArticle
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