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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:25 AM
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Why isn't the CIA dealing with Bushco?
I don't mean the hierarchy - that was dismantled by Cheney already.

I mean unofficially, why aren't some agents who have been around and know what's up taking steps to deal with an administration that has turned on them? Why aren't there leaks of information?
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:27 AM
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1. Things that make ya go hmmmm...
:shrug:
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:27 AM
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2. would it be because of..
.. the Porter Goss purges?

Sue
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Options Remain Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:28 AM
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3. who says they are not.
i suspect there is a lot going on that nobody sees.
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MajorFlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:32 AM
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4. Yup.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:38 AM
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7. I always thought "yup" too, but now I'm beginning to wonder. Just
WHEN does the CIA think it might be a good time to expose these traitors??? in the next millenium?? The country's bleak future was secured when these assholes got a second term. Someone tell me -- just when does the CIA plan on rescuing us??

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MajorFlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:46 AM
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8. Has the revelation that Watergate was not the result of deep
investigative reporting but a backlash by the old guard in the FBi changed your thoughts about that event. Felt simply handed the evidence to Woodward/Bernstein. He was no whistle blower; merely a messenger. Catch my drift?
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:05 AM
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12. felt was deep background and confirmation only
guidance and support, really. hence 'deep' throat.

he didn't supply and evidence at all, as far as i know.

woodstein got all their evidence and original facts from other sources.
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MajorFlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:12 AM
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13. That is not how I understand it. After Hoover died, Nixon tried to put
his own people in charge. The old guard at the FBI resented it and leaked the evidence to hang Nixon to the presumably least likely source, TWP. The evidence which sunk Nixon was handed to WoodStein on a silver platter.


BTW, :hi:
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:53 AM
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22. definitely not on a silver platter
Edited on Sat Jul-16-05 11:57 AM by unblock
woodstein got rather frustrated with deep throat's lack of specifics. 'follow the money' was the famous advice, which did serve to keep them motivated and work in the right direction.

but for the most part, deep throat's main contribution was to say hey guys, look, there's something over there, look for it. i'm not saying what and i'm not saying who and you didn't hear it from me, but there's something there if you can find someone willing to talk.

'deep' background, hence the name.

woodstein were surprised that hollywood made him into more of a key component than he was.

oh and :hi:
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MajorFlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:41 PM
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27. I do not seriously consider the possibility that Felt, then the #2 at the
FBI decided on his own to leak to W/B. The convoluted meetings and deliveries of evidence to W/B required someone to be able to keep tabs on the comings and goings of W/B, including placing certain items in certain places with confidence that they would not be intercepted. The kind of stuff that only someone with the resources of an organization like the FBI could have done.

Face it, the revelation of the Watergate breakin was an inside job. Felt was only personally involved because he had a personal connection with Woodward; without that personal connection, W/B would not have been willing to trust their source and story. And, Woodward's original name for his source was "My Friend", which sort of resembles the initials of Felt and indicates his reason for trusting him. As Paul Simon wrote, "Why deny the obvious, child."
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 12:53 PM
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23. Check this out......
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ScamUSA.Com Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:34 AM
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5. cuz their significant other would be 'fair game'
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ChiDem Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:37 AM
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6. I truely believe ...
there will be some leaks coming concerning the 'fixing of intel' and DSM will be front page news again.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:50 AM
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9. Because they are just as corrupt as Bushco?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:57 AM
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11. Looking for the CIA to save us?
:wtf:

The CIA is generally an Ivy League clique that bears little resemblance to Joe and Josephina American and has more in common with ChimpCo.

Come to think of it, most of the American power structure fits this model. :think:
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:19 AM
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14. It's the same as agreeing with Pat Buchanan sometimes
You die inside a little more each time.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:21 AM
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15. True, but I still think the intelligence folks.....
don't like presidents dicking with them. They tend to be around longer
than any Presidential Administration, and arguably have more power
than any President. I think their instinct is to clip any President that
gets out of control.

This doesn't mean they are good guys.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:26 AM
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18. I like your assessment.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:07 PM
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24. But I'm not talking about virtue - I'm talking self-interest.
One of theirs was outted by Rove, they were scapegoated and taken over.

Our of their own pride or self interest, why aren't they doing something?
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:51 AM
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10. Last summer was their big chance
before the election. In retrospect, I think they tried but the media wouldn't bite. The landscape is shifting now with the Plame investigation ramping up and leaking buckets. Maybe we'll hear from them shortly.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:22 AM
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16. Because domestic counter-intelligence is the FBI's job nt
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:24 AM
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17. What makes you think they aren't?
I don't mean leaks from the CIA. Remember, this is an agency that operates covertly, and always behind the scenes.

I'm sure there a lot of people in the CIA that are really pi**ed that one of their own was outed, and I don't think it's going un-noticed.

I still say ShrubCo should be very concerned about making enemies at the CIA. If any agency knows where the bodies are burried, it's those guys, and I sure wouldn't want them on MY bad side!
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:09 PM
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25. Only the fact that not much has happened. But maybe CIA agents are
more patient than I am.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:35 AM
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19. Maybe we should ask Agent Mike
Agent Mike; how many have to die because of exposed CIA officers and how many of our military must die because of a war played off of cooked up intelligence. Dubya mostly gave you guys the blame for 911. Doesn't that piss you off? Cheney came to see that you guys would cook up some bogus intelligence for Colin to spew to the world.
Agent Mike, when you get a chance, could you respond here or have one of your minions do it.
We need the mess in Washington cleaned up. Thanks in advance!
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:52 AM
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21. *snort* I thought he was busy harrassing patriots who were
trying to expose election fraud. Silly me.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:37 AM
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20. I think they are, we just aren't privy to what they are doing.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:10 PM
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26. Checkoff and the dismantling of CIA by neocons
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 03:43 PM
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28. Because only E Clampus Vitus can save the 'agency' now....
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