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DaveT Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 08:23 AM
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That Monty Python Moment
Edited on Sat Jul-16-05 08:27 AM by DaveT
Just as Mike Moore started his movie with a look back at "the dream" of Florida in 2000, I have to go back to the moment when objective reality was obliterated -- when the GOP's version of Michael Palin, James Baker, told us all with a straight face that you can't trust any human being to count a ballot.

"Bias" will inevitably seize control of the moment, Baker claimed, and your party affiliation will transform the ballot in your hand from the objective manifestation of a citizen's choice for President into a tool for imposing your will upon the outcome of the election. This echoed the infamous reasoning of Joe Stalin who suggested that voters do not determine the winner of an election -- the people who count the votes do.

It was also a self-revealing projection of the work that Lawyer Baker had taken on from the Bush Family Business. His argument of convenience at the time was to proclaim the superiority of a machine count to a hand count -- a proposition that contradicted the prior position taken by his client. As Governor of the Great State of Texas, George Walker Bush had signed into law a statute that called for the hand counting of ballots as the final step in resolving disputed close elections.

In good lawyerly fashion, Baker in Florida argued the superiority of the machine count for the logical if unprincipled reason that the machines had named his client the winner, and Bush's prior position was simply junked. This is how lawyers make their living and it also explains the popularity of lawyer jokes.

Speaking of lawyer jokes, that 2000 election as everybody recalls was ultimately decided by lawyers, for once proving Stalin wrong.

The ludicrous reasoning of Bush v. Gore amounted to a national re-enactment of the Pythons' Parrot Sketch -- with Al Gore playing the part of the hapless John Cleese maintaining the objective reality of the parrot's death in the face of implacable mendacity. "Beautiful plumage," exclaimed the lying sack of shit played by Michael Palin -- an excruciatingly obvious effort at diversion that affected Cleese like fingernails scraping on a chalk board.

Baker and Scalia and Rehnquist in unison blew a big raspberry at Gore and neutral principles of law. The GOP and its lying sacks of shit have been blowing that same raspberry in our faces ever since, over and over and over again.


Weapons of mass destruction were stored in Iraq, and we knew exactly where they were. Then Bush made it into a comedy bit, searching for the weapons of mass destruction in the White House.

Social Security will go bust in a few decades so we need to "reform" it in a way that does nothing to change its solvency.

Teri Schiavo can communicate with her family and has a chance to recover from brain damage. Then we hear that the autopsy demonstrated that she had been brain dead for years, and they can't even come up with a non sequitur for this one, so they just pretend it never happened.

And, by the way, in 2004, machines counting votes still chose Bush as the winner while the actual ballots have been legislated out of existence in about one third of the country.



So, the question is when do you have that Monty Python moment? When do you have that slow burn that sends Cleese into a poetic rhapsody on all the ways to speak the plain truth while the grinning sack of shit continues to lie in your face, daring you to knock his lights out?


Will it be the Karl Rove case? Will America, collectively, turn its face to the camera in frustration as these lying sacks of shit prattle on about the "beautiful plumage" on Karl's carcass? Here is a nice summary of the GOP talking points from Josh Marshall:


Joe Wilson's a liar. Plame's covert status wasn't protected well by the CIA. It was just a short phone call. Rove really wanted to speak about welfare reform. Wilson said Cheney sent him to Africa. Plame sent Wilson to Africa. Rove leaked Plame's identity in the interests of good journalism. Wilson went on too many TV shows. On and on and on.



http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_07_10.php#006117

Beautiful plumage indeed.


The common thread running from Florida through the Plame case is the very post-modern concept that "reality" deserves quotation marks around it because it is socially constructed. Whoever has the power to say what's what has the power to rule the world.

Many opponents of Bush look forlornly to "the media" for help in "exposing" this perpetual scam. Others consider that "the media" are owned by corporate interests who do not necessarily see a problem with the logic of advertising running the world, and then succomb to despair.

I say quit worrying about the media. Quit worrying about who is buying the story that the parrot is "just stunned." Just get mad, like Cleese. Just shout it out, to anybody -- whether they want to listen or not.

Karl Rove is an ex-brain!
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 08:32 AM
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1. Recommended
and a kick!

Excellent post, DaveT.

'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker!
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DaveT Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 08:48 AM
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3. My favorite line
Is "'e's joined the choir invisible."
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:22 AM
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5. if 'e was 6 feet under, 'e'd be pushing up daisies!
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 08:33 AM
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2. Great post! and welcome to DU nt
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 08:58 AM
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4. The 2000 Coup is the original sin of this misAdministration.
The truth is Bush & Co. never should have been given power. Unless and until that is acknowledged by the GOP, the press & the American people - America will never be free.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 09:57 AM
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6. Can't trust a person...hehehe
"I have to go back to the moment when objective reality was obliterated -- when the GOP's version of Michael Palin, James Baker, told us all with a straight face that you can't trust any human being to count a ballot."

But you CAN trust a human to write a machine that counts for humans without political bias!
As a tech nerd, I find the political structure of the voting machines appalling. I mean they aren't partisian at all, they simply favor the party who is most CORRUPT in the district, who ever it is.
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Zorbuddha Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:36 AM
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8. You can't trust people with that mindset.
THAT's the lesson here.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:27 AM
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7. good analogy
:thumbsup: Bush v Gore = dead parrot sketch
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:57 AM
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9. You must be channeling the same vein...
as Mrs Yowza. She was exploring the Parrot Sketch just last night.

Nominate and

:kick:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 12:43 PM
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10. What so many people fail to recognize is this:


The republican "front-people" are EXPERT at "argument-twisting". They have studied up, and are ready and willing to take whatever side of the argument that will prove whatever the "point of the day" is..

There is no need for fact checking, since facts are not the issue. They are after talking points, sound bytes and propaganda. They have learned that people only listen in fits and starts, and just grasp the gist of any "story" or issue with a few salient points, which THEY can then repeat to their friends (so THEY appear to be informed and intelligent about news) Facts are inconsequential..It just needs to SOUND like facts.

There are many tactics employed by republicans...

the lawyerly elder-statesmen rely on legalistic phrases and indignation that anyone could even dare to see the other side.

the barbie/bimbos on tv bat their eyes and toss their blonde manes, cross and uncross their lanky legs, and flirt outrageously, while saying the most obnoxious things. Whenever they are confronted, they either raise the volume or play the ingenue..

Think about it.. when was the last time you saw a really unattractive Republican on tv? The really grotesque ones have "official titles, so their words are taken as truth..Or they are elected politicians.

The cutesy ones are all opinion, but they are given the same credibility as the "official ones"..
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