It isn't about Rove, it is much bigger than that

[still_one]

http://s93118771.onlinehome.us/DU/letter.pdf#search='Valerie%20Plame%20was%20involved%20in%20a%20sting%20operation%20...'

[BeHereNow]

1. WOW! Did you write that?

If not, who did?
I am going to print and plaster my
area with it!
Nominating!
BHN

[BeHereNow]

2. Kick! Must read!

BHN

[still_one]

39. no, found it on the web

[BeHereNow]

44. Glad you made it back to your thread- I was starting to think

You'd been CHENEYED for posting it!

BHN

[still_one]

50. LOL, not yet anyway

sorry for the delay

No matter what the RNC talking points are saying it is out of their hands now, and they know it. They will try to distract us with everything, but it will be the prosecutor who has the last word

[BeHereNow]

55. The last word...

might just come from an angry mob of millions
if America ever knows everything!
Glad you are okay-
I was worried-
You just NEVER know these days...
BHN

[BeHereNow]

3. Kick!

READ IT PEOPLE!
BHN

[BeHereNow]

4. KICK!

I am going to kick this all day long if I have to.
BHN

[BeHereNow]

5. Text of PDF: Cover up of Treason

COVER-UP OF
TREASON
Time magazine’s Joe Klein’s July 5 article, page 21 revealed that Valerie Plame
was “active in a sting operation involving the trafficking of Weapons of Mass
Destruction components” when her identity was exposed by the White House. It
also said “Only a high-ranking official could have had access to the knowledge”
that Valerie Plame was a covert CIA agent.
Since the Republicans refuse to hold investigations
on the Plame matter, our study group believes there
is more to the White House revealing Valerie Plame’s
covert CIA status. Consider this:
1) News records show that in 1995, Vice President
Cheney, then CEO of Halliburton, was fined
$1.2 million for illegal sales of dual-use nuclear
components to Libya. Shortly before becoming
Vice President he bitterly assailed U.S. policy
against selling such components to Syria and Iran.
Apparently the policy hurt Halliburton’s bottom
line.
2) Other countries are investigating Vice President
Cheney for illegal bribery and various other
offenses connected to Halliburton as well as his
paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to secret
Swiss bank accounts
3) The Atomic Energy Commission has said a North
American company is one of 20 being investigated
for black-market sales of WMD materials.
We believe it is possible that Valerie Plame was
outed and the CIA sting operation exposed because
it was coming close to discovering that Vice
President Cheney and the Hallibuton company he
has awarded billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to in
non-bid contracts—violated U.S. laws that restricted
sales of nuclear components to Middle Eastern and
Asian countries, including Pakistan.
In addition, FBI translator Sibel Edmonds—gagged
by Attorney General John Ashcroft—said in her
testimony to the 9/11 Commission that if what she
knows is revealed, it could lead to charges of
TREASON being leveled against elected officials at
top levels of the U.S. government, “Certain elected
officials will stand trial and go to prison”.
If what Sibel Edmonds says is accurate, then
all of those who have been involved in keeping this
information from reaching the public are complicit
in cover-up and this TREASON. The same crime
that brought Nixon down.
There is a question of where the Vice President’s
—and President’s—loyalties lie: to corporate friends
and their companies’ bottom line; or to the laws and
the Constitution of the United States and the security
and well-being of the American people?
In any case, the exposure of Valerie Plame by the
White House was and is TREASONOUS. Americans
should know the truth about Sibel Edmonds and
Valerie Plame.
It is the responsibility of the media and Congress to
investigate and expose these wrongdoings, and safeguard
this country against this type of obstruction
and threat to the American people.
We want to know WHY Congress and the
Justice Department are not fulfilling their
role to the American people?
WHEN will you start ?

[The Magistrate]

15. That, Ma'am, Has An Interesting Ring To It

That Halliburton has been involved in such activity is well known, and it seems quite possible a C.I.A. operation aimed at exposing proliferation efforts could well have threatened to expose serious malfeasance by the company and its subsidiaries.

[BeHereNow]

27. Try this for interesting Sir,

Tried to go to the source and got this:

"error 403: Forbidden!
The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it. Authorization will not help and the request SHOULD NOT be repeated."

Caps are theirs, not mine-
Why is Still_One not responding and WHERE did
Still_One get the PDF link?
Still_One?
Is that you Sibel?
Just check in with us and tell us you can't say-
otherwise we will worry that you have been disappeared!
BHN

[dogday]

28. With all the corruption involved with this

Administration, I am sure it was not too hard to find. They don't cover up their mistakes until they are made public....

[The Magistrate]

35. There Is Something To That, Comrade

A string of successes can breed arrogance sufficient to create sloppiness: in China in the thirties, the Japanese staffs called it "victory disease", and it involved them in a great many difficulties as they pressed their campaigns against the Nationalists and the Communists alike.

Halliburton, under Cheney, has engaged in great deal of evasion of the law, seeking to deal for profit with enemies of this country. The company routinely violated U.S. statutes against bribery in foreign countries. Even today, it is well known that it has gouged the U.S. government on contracts or services in the Iraqi theater.

There is real fodder for successful agitation here. Even people who support the action in Iraq, perhaps even especially such people, do not like corrupt profiteering on the war effort, and despise trading with the nation's enemies....

[BeHereNow]

Sir Magistrate- do you recall during the 1980's

The story that broke about the fraudulent billing
for supplies? I forget the specific items, but recall
the ridiculous amounts that were charged to
the American people.
Wasn't that Halliburton too?
I think so, and Snarl-face was in charge then too
if I am not mistaken.
What a fucker he is.
A treasonous fucker.

Madame BHN

[The Magistrate]

47. Unfortunately, Ma'am

Any such specific incident excapes my recollection. But there is a rich history of criminality in this company, and its predeccessors (now subsidiaries), such as Brown and Root. Some of our members whose skills at rummaging this electronic attic will hopefully be able to provide you an answer.

[BeHereNow]

53. Hey now Sir Magistrate..I PREFER Madame BHN.

Ma'am makes me feel like a teacher or
a waitress.
It MADAME BHN, if you please.
I'm in my 40's, so I can do "Madame."

Madame BHN

[Raksha]

59. Yeah! Thanks for reminding me...

People talked for weeks about those $500 toilet seats and something else (I can't remember what), but I didn't realize it was Halliburton that was behind all that.

[Southsideirish]

6. Like Watergate, this fascinating story just keeps unfolding and turning

this way and that way. Who knows where it will wind up? This is really getting interesting!!

[BeHereNow]

7. Where did the poster go???

Was that a net hit and run or what?
I REALLY want to know where it came from
and who wrote it!!!
Pretty mysterious link...
BHN

[proud patriot]

8. Thanks

:-)

[BeHereNow]

9. Tirelessly kicking again...

CHENEY- of course, it all makes perfect sense.
BHN

[KarenInMA]

11. wow.

Who wrote this? I can't find an author credit.

[BeHereNow]

14. NO source at all and the person who planted it

has mysteriously left the building-
Elvis? Is that you?
LOL
BHN

[shelley806]

36. This would tie SO much together...We know for certain that the US

didn't go to war with Iraq for defense. 9/11 just provided an excellent excuse. Cheney pushed for war with Iraq long before 9/11, and has yet to reveal discussions related to Halliburton and War. All of this makes me ILL.

[BeHereNow]

42. Me too- I wake up at night sometimes

positively shaking.
When you put it all together in your mind,
it is SO repulsive.
I am furious to think that so FEW of our congress critters
and senators have done so little.
You KNOW, they KNOW.
Fuckers-
I'd like to see nearly every one of them
kicked to the gutter so that we could
start over.
NO corporate financing for political campaigns
and lobbying made ILLEGAL.
BHN

[shelley806]

56. would that be WONDERFUL? We can dream.

"NO corporate financing for political campaigns
and lobbying made ILLEGAL"

[derby378]

10. Randi Rhodes beat you to it

She covered it on her show either yesterday or the day before.

Still, that's some explosive stuff.

Nominated!

[BeHereNow]

13. Has anyone at DU posted the text?

Does anyone know the source?
It appears that the original poster has either
disappeared or doesn't want to reveal further
details.
HMMM?
BHN

[derby378]

16. Hiya, sweetie

I wish I had the answers to those questions, too. Where did the OPer go?

[BeHereNow]

29. Here:

error 403: Forbidden!
The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it. Authorization will not help and the request SHOULD NOT be repeated.

?????
Perhaps Valerie and Sibel are contacting DU through
a secret server-
That's what I would do if I were them!
Everybody knows DU is INFO central on the net.
BHN
:hide: ?

:hi: from DU!

[wookie294]

12. Don't forget Halliburton is being investigated for ties to Iran

In January, Halliburton abruptly announced it will not sign new contracts in Iran, but that its existing contracts will continue. They made this announcement after the government began investigating their business ties to Iran. Maybe Plame uncovered illegal Halliburton activity in Iran. More here....

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/iran_subpoena.html

[Imagevision]

22. Seriously, how many times have you heard Halliburton was being

investigated?!! Halliburton wouldn't be calling the shots for rebuilding Iraq if it wasn't for Cheney.

[Imagevision]

25. Question: Who will Rove remain silent for?

Novak said: " he learned about Plame thru two (2_ senior white house officials -- not who else can that be? -- where has Cheney been thru-out thios mess? Is he still embarrassed for stating the "throes of war were over?

[BeHereNow]

46. Yes and we REALLY should start using new verbage.

We need to investigate CHENEY.
I want to hear the words,
"CHENEY is under investigation."
Know what I mean ,jelllybean?
BHN

[Imagevision]

17. Rove is just the tip of the iceberg in this mess - pulling off a phoney

undre false pretenses -- no-one should be fired or allowed to resign -- we need to send those found guilty in this administration to prison.

[FreedomAngel82]

21. I think so too

Earlier this week I had the feeling that Fitzgerald is going after something more then just Karl Rove. Rove is the key. In the end it all leads back to the same person. Karl Rove to George Bush to Dick Cheney.

[FreedomAngel82]

18. Wow

This is big and all makes sense. I hope Fitzgerald knows about this!!! Anybody able to send this to him if he doesn't know? Is he able to get stuff from people? This is really big.

[LSK]

19. so could Roves name being reveal be a way to protect Cheney

All eyes are on Rove, who can take care of himself, and meanwhile, nobody in the media is specifically looking at Cheney.

[WhoWantsToBeOccupied]

20. "It's not the treason, it's the coverup"

If the subject weren't so horribly serious, that might be funny.

[BeHereNow]

23. Okay, this is freaky-

I just tried to go to the home link
and got this message:

"error 403: Forbidden!
The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it. Authorization will not help and the request SHOULD NOT be repeated."
(Caps on should not are theirs, not mine.)

Somebody sure wants to stay anonymous...
Okay then.
BHN

[shelley806]

37. What home link? The one posted at the top of the thread? eom

[BeHereNow]

43. The first part of the link

numbers and online.us-
I cut off the DU/letter part and just went to
the first part of the link address.
BHN

[dogday]

24. Could Fitzpatrick call Ms. Edmounds while she is

under the gag order from another court?

[meganmonkey]

26. Very nice!

:toast:

[BeHereNow]

30. Very Anonymous...

error 403: Forbidden!
The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it. Authorization will not help and the request SHOULD NOT be repeated.

I tried to see if it went to a blog or online journal-
somebody wants to be anonymous...:tinfoilhat:

[yodermon]

31. hey BHN:

I think I remember seeing this PDF last year during the peak of the Plame Indictment Threads. H2O Man (and others)were really whipping up a lot of activist fervor, and someone create that PDF to leaflet various & sundry public areas.

I'll search a bit more for the originator.

[BeHereNow]

32. If it was created by a DUer, then why so mysterious?

And WHERE did the person who started this thread go
anyway?
Hey Still_One...Where are you?
PM me if you want.
BHN:wtf:

[yodermon]

34. OK, BHN: I found a draft of this letter

see http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2123068&mesg_id=2123291
scroll down to "PALLAS' 'GIVE EM HELL' SUGGESTED LETTER"

A lot of similar verbiage, but it is missing the Sibel Edmond's info.

I'd suggest that you begin your inquiry with one Pallas180. ;) Someone else could have modified it, of course.

[BeHereNow]

40. Hey THANKS!

I was beginning to think Sibel was
trying to contact us-
and hey, who know?
Maybe she reads DU too!
BHN

[bear425]

33. Don't know anything about the poster, but

this flyer was available about a year ago. I can't remember who put it together, but I believe it was a group of posters who participated in the MANY Plame leak posts here on DU. H2O Man could probably tell you who put it together.

It's a good flyer. I have it saved on my hard drive and I've left it around town before.

[txindy]

38. Excellent.

Recommended reading for everyone.

:kick:

[BeHereNow]

41. That's what I was saying while I kept kicking it!

I think it is time for a new release of this doc-
Apparently it was composed as a DU group effort
some time ago- it's too timely to let it slip into the archives.
We all need to print as many copies as we can each afford to
and plaster our local areas with it!
BHN

[kskiska]

45. more…

Sent by a friend (cites daily kos as source):

Not only was Plame's cover blown, so was that of her cover company, Brewster, Jennings & Associates. With the public exposure of Plame, intelligence agencies all over the world started searching data bases for any references to her (TIME Magazine). Damage control was immediate, as the CIA asserted that her mission had been connected to weapons of mass destruction.

However, it was not long before stories from the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal tied Brewster, Jennings & Associates to energy, oil and the Saudi-owned Arabian American Oil Company, or ARAMCO. Brewster Jennings had been a founder of Mobil Oil company, one of Aramco's principal founders.

According to additional sources interviewed by Wayne Madsen, Brewster Jennings was, in fact, a well-established CIA proprietary company, linked for many years to ARAMCO. The demise of Brewster Jennings was also guaranteed the moment Plame was outed.

It takes years for Non-Official Covers or NOCs, as they are known, to become really effective. Over time, they become gradually more trusted; they work their way into deeper information access from more sensitive sources. NOCs are generally regarded in the community as among the best and most valuable of all CIA operations officers and the agency goes to great lengths to protect them in what are frequently very risky missions.

By definition, Valerie Plame was an NOC. Yet unlike all other NOCs who fear exposure and torture or death from hostile governments and individual targets who have been judged threats to the United States, she got done in by her own President, whom we also judge to be a domestic enemy of the United States.

Moreover, as we will see below, Valerie Plame may have been one of the most important NOCs the CIA had in the current climate. Let's look at just how valuable she was.

ARAMCO

According to an April 29, 2002 report in Britain's Guardian, ARAMCO constitutes 12% of the world's total oil production; a figure which has certainly increased as other countries have progressed deeper into irreversible decline.

ARAMCO is the largest oil group in the world, a state-owned Saudi company in partnership with four major US oil companies. Another one of Aramco's partners is Chevron-Texaco which gave up one of its board members, Condoleezza Rice, when she became the National Security Advisor to George Bush. All of ARAMCO's key decisions are made by the Saudi royal family while US oil expertise, personnel and technology keeps the cash coming in and the oil going out. ARAMCO operates, manages, and maintains virtually all Saudi oil fields - 25% of all the oil on the planet.

It gets better.

According to a New York Times report on March 8th of this year, ARAMCO is planning to make a 25% investment in a new and badly needed refinery to produce gasoline. The remaining 75% ownership of the refinery will go to the only nation that is quickly becoming America's major world competitor for ever-diminishing supplies of oil: China.

Almost the entire Bush administration has an interest in ARAMCO.

The Boston Globe reported that in 2001 ARAMCO had signed a $140 million multi-year contract with Halliburton, then chaired by Dick Cheney, to develop a new oil field. Halliburton does a lot of business in Saudi Arabia. Current estimates of Halliburton contracts or joint ventures in the country run into the tens of billions of dollars.

So do the fortunes of some shady figures from the Bush family's past.

As recently as 1991 ARAMCO had Khalid bin Mahfouz sitting on its Supreme Council or board of directors. Mahfouz, Saudi Arabia's former treasurer and the nation's largest banker, has been reported in several places to be Osama bin Laden's brother in law. However, he has denied this and brought intense legal pressure to bear demanding retractions of these allegations. He has major partnership investments with the multi-billion dollar Binladin Group of companies and he is a former director of BCCI, the infamous criminal drug-money laundering bank which performed a number of very useful services for the CIA before its 1991 collapse under criminal investigation by a whole lot of countries.

As Saudi Arabia's largest banker he handles the accounts of the royal family and - no doubt - ARAMCO, while at the same time he is a named defendant in a $1 trillion lawsuit filed by 9/11 victim families against the Saudi government and prominent Saudi officials who, the suit alleges, were complicit in the 9/11 attacks.

Both BCCI and Mahfouz have historical connections to the Bush family dating back to the 1980s. Another bank (one of many) connected to Mahfouz - the InterMaritime Bank - bailed out a cash-starved Harken Energy in 1987 with $25 million. After the rejuvenated Harken got a no-bid oil lease in 1991, CEO George W. Bush promptly sold his shares in a pump-and-dump scheme and made a whole lot of money.

Knowing all of this, there's really no good reason why the CIA should be too upset, is there? It was only a long-term proprietary and deep-cover NOC - well established and consistently producing "take" from ARAMCO (and who knows what else in Saudi Arabia). It was destroyed with a motive of personal vengeance (there may have been other motives) by someone inside the White House.

From the CIA's point of view, at a time when Saudi Arabia is one of the three or four countries of highest interest to the US, the Plame operation was irreplaceable.

Third clue: Tenet's resignation, which occurred at night, was the first "evening resignation" of a Cabinet-level official since October 1973 when Attorney General Elliott Richardson and his deputy, William Ruckelshaus, resigned in protest of Richard Nixon's firing of Watergate special prosecutor Archibald Cox. Many regard this as the watershed moment when the Nixon administration was doomed.

[BeHereNow]

WOW, that is some incredible stuff!

If ONLY the average American could read...
BHN

[Emit]

58. Isn't it though!?

edited to add, thanks for that, too, kskiska.

[Emit]

60. Question to those who are wiser

than I when it comes to legalease.

Re: all this info on ARAMCO, Halliburton, et. al., how does the following executive order signed by Bush&co relate, if at all?

Executive Order
Executive Order Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other Property in Which Iraq Has An Interest

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), section 5 of the United Nations Participation Act, as amended (22 U.S.C. 287c) (UNPA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that the threat of attachment or other judicial process against the Development Fund for Iraq, Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein, and proceeds, obligations, or any financial instruments of any nature whatsoever arising from or related to the sale or marketing thereof, and interests therein, obstructs the orderly reconstruction of Iraq, the restoration and maintenance of peace and security in the country, and the development of political, administrative, and economic institutions in Iraq. This situation constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.

I hereby order:

Section 1. Unless licensed or otherwise authorized pursuant to this order, any attachment, judgment, decree, lien, execution, garnishment, or other judicial process is prohibited, and shall be deemed null and void, with respect to the following:

(a) the Development Fund for Iraq, and

(b) all Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein, and proceeds, obligations, or any financial instruments of any nature whatsoever arising from or related to the sale or marketing thereof, and interests therein, in which any foreign country or a national thereof has any interest, that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons.

Sec. 2. (a) As of the effective date of this order, Executive Order 12722 of August 2, 1990, Executive Order 12724 of August 9, 1990, and Executive Order 13290 of March 20, 2003, shall not apply to the property and interests in property described in section 1 of this order.

(b) Nothing in this order is intended to affect the continued effectiveness of any rules, regulations, orders, licenses or other forms of administrative action issued, taken, or continued in effect heretofore or hereafter under Executive Orders 12722, 12724, or 13290, or under the authority of IEEPA or the UNPA, except as hereafter terminated, modified, or suspended by the issuing Federal agency and except as provided in section 2(a) of this order.

<<snip>>
GEORGE W. BUSH
THE WHITE HOUSE,
May 22, 2003.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/05/20030522-15.html

[mwb970]

48. This is a must-read item.`

It is becoming clearer and clearer that the root of America's problems lie in a certain Dick named Cheney. What an awful, despicable "man" he is.

[still_one]

51. ain't that the truth though

[Carolab]

49. Yup. STILL MORE PROOF IT WAS CHENEY. n/t

[Fight_n_back]

52. More info from Bushwatch

http://bushwatch.org/kahn.htm

[BeHereNow]

54. Good point from Jerry Politex

"Given Khan's central position as the father of anti-American nuclear proliferation, it's understandable that Bush is keeping his deal with Masharraf as low key as possible. While Kerry knew that Bush's position on nuclear proliferation has been compromised by his decision go easy on Khan, Kerry did not press the issue far enough when it came up during the debates, and Bush talked around it. I suspect that Bush was releived when neither Kerry nor the media attempted to press the matter, subsequently. --Jerry Politex, 01.17.05"

"..neither Kerry nor the media attempted to press the matter..."

And just why WAS that?

BHN

[Emit]

57. Thanks for this n/t

[Carla in Ca]

61. Randi Rhodes talked about ARAMCO today

It is hard to follow all of it but it seems that everyone in this WH has had dealings in ARAMCO and members of OBL family...
Is all this why the investigation has been going for 2 years now?

Also, Randi said there would not be an investigation at all if the CIA had not filed a criminal report regarding Plame's outing. That was something else I've wondered about. It was hard to believe this would be investigated in the first place since the R's control all of D.C.
I'm going to take some aspirin and then see if I can find the CIA complaint. Any suggestions on how to do that?

Edit
I would also like to see a copy of prosecutor's contract to see if there is a limit to his scope of inquiry.
Wow, I just found this when I googled Fitzgerald
<http://www.wanttoknow.info/ciaresignations>
It is long but covers a lot of ground. Here are some snippets:



Wilson was secretly dispatched in February 2002, on instructions from Dick Cheney to the CIA, to go to Niger and look for anything that might support the material in the documents. They had already been dismissed as forgeries by the International Atomic Energy Agency, the CIA, and apparently everyone else who had seen them. The CIA cautioned the administration, more than once, against using them. Shortly thereafter, Wilson returned and gave his report stating clearly that the allegations were pure bunk and unsupportable.

snip...


It gets better. According to a New York Times report on March 8th of this year, ARAMCO is planning to make a 25% investment in a new and badly needed refinery to produce gasoline. The remaining 75% ownership of the refinery will go to the only nation that is quickly becoming America's major world competitor for ever-diminishing supplies of oil: China.

Almost the entire Bush administration has an interest in ARAMCO. The Boston Globe reported that in 2001 ARAMCO had signed a $140 million multi-year contract with Halliburton, then chaired by Dick Cheney, to develop a new oil field. Halliburton does a lot of business in Saudi Arabia. Current estimates of Halliburton contracts or joint ventures in the country run into the tens of billions of dollars.

So do the fortunes of some shady figures from the Bush family's past. As recently as 1991 ARAMCO had Khalid bin Mahfouz sitting on its Supreme Council or board of directors. Mahfouz, Saudi Arabia's former treasurer and the nation's largest banker, has been reported in several places to be Osama bin Laden's brother in law.
MORE...

You have all got to read this long time-line article.

[Emit]

62. kick n/t