Religious Fundies don't like men either

[CTLawGuy]

It's obvious that fundies don't like empowered, free women... but they don't like empowered, free men either.

Men naturally (on a primal level) want to sleep with as many women as they can. Our cultural and religious institution of marriage hamstrings that by committing a man to one woman for the rest of his life.

Fundies are against birth control, the absence of which makes it hard for men to be promiscuous without fathering children.

Fundies are dead set against pornography, and most men LOVE pornography (though many may not admit it).

Fundies tell men they must support their wives financially (at the same time they tell women they are not allowed to support themselves financially).

Fundies are opposed to masturbation (or at least have been). Any man who says he doesn't masturbate is a liar. (remember most fundies are hypocrites).


What fundies are against is freedom. They are opposed to people (men and women) making choices for themselves. They work to confine people into restrictive roles that they believe are ordained by God for whatever reason. And they do not tolerate those who stray from those roles.

I know about this first hand. I grew up with a close friend who was a fundie. His life was extremely restricted and sheltered. it's not like because he was a boy, he was completely free to do whatever he wanted and they would approve. he was told that premartial sex was wrong (and what else do teenage boys want to do?)

Religious fundamentalism is not a war between genders. It is a war between those who love freedom and those who hate it.

[DanCa]

1. Extremism

In anything is a horrible thing. There are plenty of good and decent Christians out there. Hell I voted for one (John Kerry) in the last election. However as Rev Al sharpton says the christian right arent the right christians. What we as a party have to do is start letting the msm know that there are plenty of good men and women of faith on the left as well as there on the right.
Unfortunately its going to take an awful lot to get through that brain washing. Hopefuly there will be enough of a country left by when they finally wake up.

[CTLawGuy]

6. thats a great quote from Al Sharpton

"the christian right aren't the right christians"

[rudeboy666]

2. yes and no

Remember that there are numerous non-religious reasons for promoting fidelity, respect, self-control, etc....

We as a society (or community) might have an interest in promoting certain actions (and preventing others) for the good of the whole.

The restriction of individual freedom is not limited to the religious.



Granted, the whole notion of individual freedom initially sounds good (and it is!).

However, once you realize that all men(and women) live in societies where all of our actions have potential effects(both good and bad),the notion of unfettered freedom is not a viable proposition.

[CTLawGuy]

3. Im not arguing for unfettered freedom

I am responding to those who say fundamentalism is a mechanism by when men conspire to oppress women.

[Inland]

4. Strictly hierarchical, unfree social pattern.

Still better for men: beta males might be tied down by fundie social mores and tithing to the alpha males, but at least they get to lord over the women in their own house. It's the equivalent of the office boy kicking the cat, but it's still a lot better than being the woman.

[CTLawGuy]

5. "the office boy kicking the cat"

thanks for the great mental picture :(

you could turn that around and say men get the short end of the stick by being forced to work to support another adult human being finanically.

He toils 12 hours a day in the mines, while she stays home.