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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:15 AM
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Say it now and say it loud, Real ID is the mark of the beast
Especially for women in Missouri. Starting 1 July anyone renewing their driver license must prove who they are, the preferred method is to have a birth cerificate.
Now, for men this isn't too much of a problem, I still bear the name I was born with, my wife however is a different story. She was married over thirty years ago when she was a girl, it didn't last very long, but, now when she goes to renew her license, she has to prove who she is.

She can bring her birth certificate, but, that's two name changes ago, we figure she must first obtain a copy of her birth certificate, then obtain a copy of her first marriage license, a copy of her divorce decree. Then, more easily our marrige license, and her current drivers license just to prove she is who she is and not a foreign born terrorist, or an ilegal alien.

Now, anyone looking at her could tell right off that she's just another American woman, but she's going to have to do this circus act next month.

She, and several thousand other women from Missouri. It's going to be letter writing time here, to papers, state representatives, and anyone else who'll listen.

Also, since babyface blunt our vastly experienced 33 year old guv, saw fit to privatize license offices they jacked the price from six to twenty dollars.

Have fun ladies.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:17 AM
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1. Real ID IS the mark of the beast!
There, I said it!
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:21 AM
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2. Willing to shout MARK OF THE BEAST
Anything it takes to get people to pay attention to this travesty.

By the way, how can we be sure you 'American' wife isn't a Canadian terrorist? Those people look like us and many of them can fake a Midwest accent, you know.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:25 AM
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3. Psst don't tell anybody ,but,
actually she snuck in here from France because she heard the streets were paved with gold, and that this was the land of freedeom and liberty.
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:35 AM
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4. I've been saying exactly that since Real ID passed
Edited on Sun Jun-26-05 09:38 AM by Proud_Lefty
I suggested to everyone on my email list to discuss this fact with their fundie friends. Amazing how many bible thumpers don't know what's really in those pages. It says that the anti-Christ, the beast, will fool a lot of them into believing that he is a true man of God and possibly even a messenger of sorts. He then assigns everyone his mark of the beast and no one can buy anything or comfortably survive. As a person not sure how the Bible is to be interpreted, doubting it's meant to be taken literally, I find these parallels eerie.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:49 AM
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5. No doubt about it. I have gotten e-mail from Christian friends that are
aware of this. They don't seem to connect this with the false prophet. I wonder who the false prophet could be?
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:18 AM
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7. Some explanation
There will not be a single false prophet. In the last days, there will be many false prophets arising to declare themself Christ. And here is a scripture to support that:

"Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many... Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

Matthew 24:4b-5, 23-24


So the point is, there will be many false prophets.



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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:01 AM
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6. Be careful....
I think we need to be careful before we start saying something represents the Mark of the Beast. Just b/c someone is forcing you to show an ID, or prove who you are, doesn't mean that represents the Mark of the Beast. I think we are well on our way to seeing the Mark of the Beast, but I don't believe we are quite there yet. Remember, when the Mark of the Beast is here, everyone will be forced to accept that Mark, if you want to buy or sell anything.

Here are scripture references:

"He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666" (Rev. 13:16-18).

"A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: 'If ANYONE worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name. This calls for patient endurance on the part of THE SAINTS who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus' " (Rev. 14:9-12).
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:25 AM
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8. women shouldn't change their names when they get married
simple solution. I've never understood why a woman would agree to adopt her husband's name. Seems so submissive.

Drives me crazy. A women at work has been married three times, to make things worse, in between marriages she goes back to her maiden name.

Pick a feaking name a stay with it all of your adult life!
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:57 AM
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10. I "shouldn't" have the freedom
to do what I want?

I hate my maiden name. I changed it with each husband, not because I am "submissive" (what do sexual fetishes have to do with this discussion anyway?) but because I liked their last names better than the one I was born with.

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melv Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:33 AM
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9. American women come in all shapes and sizes
hmmmm...you said

"Now, anyone looking at her could tell right off that she's just another American woman, but she's going to have to do this circus act next month."

snip -
what do you mean?

I had to GIVE my original birth certificate in order to get a passport.
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