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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:35 PM
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Open Letter To Hillary Clinton And Chuck Schumer Re: The Kerry Letter.
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 11:44 PM by DistressedAmerican
Dear Senators and Senatorial Staff,

I am writing this to inform you that I am extremely disappointed that neither of you saw fit to accept the advice I sent to you. Namely, that you must, as a matter of conscience, sign onto the letter circulated by Senator Kerry concerning the Downing Street Memos and meeting minutes.

Your failure to sign onto that letter makes me seriously doubt your commitment to either Presidential accountability or bringing the disaterous war in Iraq to an end as rapidly as possible.

I sincerely expected that both of you, being Senators from my state and generally people of good conscience, would have signed and supported this effort by Senator Kerry.

I am, to say the VERY least, extremely puzzled by this decision.

Senator Schumer, I am completely baffled as to what would cause you to act this way. I EXPECT a solid commitment to these two issues in my elected representatives. I'm sure you will do better in future or face significant loss of support from the anti-war community.

Senator Clinton, I sincerely hope that your decision making process did not revolve around ANY petty political issues like the possibility of facing Senator Kerry in the 2008 primaries. Please support the anti-war movement or it's support will likely not exist for you come election day.

Thank You,
Distressed New Yorker
Distressed American
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:41 PM
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1. Firm and clear.
Nominated.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:46 PM
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2. Thanks. I'll Be Sending A Copy To Both Of Them First Thing In The AM.
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 11:47 PM by DistressedAmerican
Too tired right now. But, They will certainly get copies most likely with the link to this thread.

So, feel free to leave something of your own. You never know they might just see it.

DA
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:53 PM
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22. Everyone READ this thread!
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 12:56 PM by ray of light
GREAT ideas, lists, numbers, and send your letters to the editors too! Let's ROLL!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1884487

and this part is a repost but email it to your friends too! WE CAN BE A FORCE TO RECKON WITH!


Listen, please:

HERE is my plan.

1. CALL your senator and representative and find out what their position is on the dsm. Ask them, "What has (insert name) done SPECIFICALLY to call for an investigation of if GWB and DC have violated their oaths of office--if indeed they have committed a high crime and misdemeanor. ASK for them to support an investigation because NO PERSON IS ABOVE THE LAW. Do not let them 'hide' from you...tell them you want to know the specifics: have they made any calls? Have they read the dsm? Have they watched John Conyers and the minority forum? Have they made calls to others asking for an investigation.

2. Write down ALL their answers and post them here and at the democracy cell project http://www.democracycellproject.net at kos and atrios and everywhere else too!

3. Write a letter to the editor, giving your congressman's specific responses, PUBLISH their "lies" or their non-answers. They usually attempt to just hide the truth. Don't let them hide and don't let them dodge. Publish the details in your letter and demand accountability.

http://capwiz.com/pdamerica/mail/compose/?voteid=0&aler...

4. Take a copy of your LTE and fax it to the Senator's or Congressman's office. Deluge the newspapers and the radio shows and the Congressman's offices.

5. Take a copy of your letter and post it at every local business you can. Post it on lights, post it on car windshields. Include the capital's number too.

6. Stand at a busy intersection with a sign...INVESTIGATE THE DOWNING STREET MEMO...CALL CONGRESS TODAY! 202-224-3121!

7. If you live near a college campus, bring the latest information on recruitment numbers and the latest information about private firms soliciting 30 million names, addresses, and grades from 16-25 year olds to give to recruiters. Include the DSM and and ask, "Fight here and now or fight in Iraq later!"

And check out the democracy cell project to get useful hints in writing effective letters to the editor. (Look in the forum under "tool Kits".

Now...how does that sound?
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lasttrip Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:51 PM
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3. think i'll send about the same
if you dont mind.

i was very disappointed with schumer.

you got my vote too.

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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:59 PM
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4. Absolutely. Send Away. We Are The Folks That Have Supported Them.
We deserve a voice on these two important and interconnected issues!
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:09 AM
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5. The tide is turning senators
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 12:36 AM by oxbow
either ride it to shore or get swept under. With or without you, we're going to get answers from these crooks.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:13 AM
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6. Who has signed so far? We need a list here. n/t
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:49 AM
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42. I'd like a list, too
I'm sure Lieberman was rushing to sign... not.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 12:53 PM
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44. See Post 43 Below!!!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:14 AM
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7. If YOU don't STAND UP to Bush* and the Republicans,
then I don't vote for you or send you money!!
It's that simple.

More than 60% of the People in the United States and probably over 80% of New Yorkers believe that George Bush and the Republicans LIED THEIR WAY into an illegal and immoral WAR which has needlessly killed over 1750 Americans and over 100,000 INNOCENT Iraqis!

If you don't STAND UP, you are complicit in the useless deaths of these innocents. Get with the program, or get out! The tide IS turning.

Emphatically,
XXXX


Hey DistressedAmerican,
Look what I saw the other night in St Paul, Minnesota.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:25 AM
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9. I Got Those Pics! Looked Like Fun And Sweet Shirt Model.
Thanks!!!:toast: :bounce: :beer: :loveya: :hug: :applause:
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:19 AM
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12. Do your jobs, or we fire you. That's how simple it is. n/t
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:16 AM
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8. People need to start calling them...
The only way they'll listen is if we bother the crap outta em. It's importantwe make a fuss about it cause otherwise they won't care....
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:36 AM
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10. Kicked and NOMINATED!
Excellent! Clear, concise, to the point... you can sense the smolderin' anger just beneath the surface...
Well done!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 02:00 AM
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11. boot
and nominated... I really dig the DA shirt in the post above! :D
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #11
20. reboot!
Yeah, that thing is killer, ain't it?
d
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 11:35 AM
Response to Reply #20
21. Thanks!
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. What a powerful new gif you've got there, dude!
I think it'd be more effective if it were a bit larger...
But even tiny, it's hard to watch...
d
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 01:48 PM
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24. Seemed Like A Good Reminder...
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. I mean hard to watch in a GOOD way...
(Any excuse for another kick!)
d
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 04:36 AM
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13. I'll sign that
I voted for schumer... and why wont he sign? Hillary has an excuse,
because she's a clinton with all that that implies.

Schumer however, is not representing this constituent with this
behaviour.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 05:42 AM
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14. AM Punt
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 05:53 AM
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15. Excellent! I didn't know that they didn't sign the letter. I am going to
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 06:15 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
write something similar to both of them today.

I never wanted the Iraq war and even with my limited resources knew that there weren't any WMDs and like a majority of NYers was against it. I wrote to both Schumer and Clinton to oppose it. Schumer never replied but I received a "form" email from Clinton telling me why she was supporting it, all bogus, and I swore then I would never vote for her again.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 08:06 AM
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17. Exactly Me Experience. Form From Clinton And Radio Silence From Schumer.
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 08:31 AM by DistressedAmerican
You'd think they would all at least send a generic response if for no other reason than to let you know he received it.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 06:28 AM
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16. That's very good. I need to write them as well although...
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 06:29 AM by WePurrsevere
I can sort of understand why Hillary wouldn't get into this particular issue at this point there's no real excuse for Schumer.

As for voting or not voting for them, if it's between them winning, one of the neo-con Republican's winning or voting for a third party that doesn't have a snowball's chance; I'll vote for those two (not voting is not an option for me). Although I certainly don't agree with every stand they take (or don't as the case may be) overall they've been decent reps for NY IMO, certainly better then turning NY into a Red state by proxy.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 10:17 AM
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18. excellent and well said, they're getting mine tomorrow night...
Thye had better support this.. or my head will explode.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:20 PM
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26. Send It Baby Send It!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 01:52 PM
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39. ...
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 10:48 AM
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19. Kicker!
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:22 PM
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27. Hear, hear, DA!
You rock.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:35 PM
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28. Great letter!
I sent one to Sen. Dayton yesterday asking him to get on board.

I'm also going to call his DC and Minnesota offices.

There is no excuse for Dems not to support Kerry on this.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:39 PM
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29. None What So Ever! BTW - Nice Shirt!
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 03:40 PM by DistressedAmerican
:toast:
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. Nice one back at ya!
:hi:

Keep cranking out that protest artwork, DA. You're doing great!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 05:00 PM
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31. Kicker!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 06:40 PM
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32. ...
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 06:46 PM
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33. Small PNACish item about Schumer
http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies.htm

Why is his name there as a member of the Board of Advisors with the rest of the PNAC guys?
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 07:38 PM
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34. That Is Quite A List....
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 07:38 PM by DistressedAmerican
HE may want to ask about getting away from Zell Miller And Richard Pearle.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:07 PM
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35. Evening Kick!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 10:16 PM
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36. At a Point where I Believe the Majority Doesn't Give a Damn.
Poor Congressman Conyers and his supporters. How they "don't give-up" is beyond my realm. They're the only ones I trust and respect anymore.

Like Clinton does not know. Kerry passed the DSM around to all. You'd think a few more would do something.

Honestly... My Saturday night :rant:
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 10:37 PM
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37. More Power To The REAL Leaders In The Party! Congressman I Love Ya!
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 10:37 PM by DistressedAmerican
That is how! He knows that millions of us support him and these efforts to demands accountability from this administration once and for all!:patriot:
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 02:49 AM
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38. Kick!
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 01:57 PM
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40. Which Senators have
Edited on Sun Jun-26-05 01:57 PM by raysr
signed on? Cantwell and Murray I hope.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:47 AM
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41. Just sent these off to my folks. I figures waiting til Monday was the
best way to get them seen!

Feel free to leave some more messages. The link went out with my message.

DA
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 12:52 PM
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43. The Letter And Signatories For Those Interested Who ESLE Failed...
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 12:52 PM by DistressedAmerican
June 22, 2005
The Honorable Pat Roberts, Chairman
The Honorable John D. Rockefeller, IV, Vice Chairman
United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence
SH-211
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senator Roberts and Senator Rockefeller:
We write concerning your committee's vital examination of pre-war Iraq intelligence failures. In particular, we urge you to accelerate to completion the work of the so-called "Phase II" effort to assess how policy makers used the intelligence they received. Last year your committee completed the first phase of a two-phased effort to review the pre-war intelligence on Iraq. Phase I-begun in the summer of 2003 and completed in the summer of 2004-examined the performance of the American intelligence community in the collection and analysis of intelligence prior to the war, including an examination of the quantity and quality of U.S. intelligence on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and the intelligence on ties between Saddam Hussein's regime and terrorist groups. At the conclusion of Phase I, your committee issued an unclassified report that made an important contribution to the American public's understanding of the issues involved. In February 2004-well over a year ago-the committee agreed to expand the scope of inquiry to include a second phase which would examine the use of intelligence by policy makers, the comparison of pre-war assessments and post-war findings, the activities of the Policy Counterterrorism Evaluation Group (PCTEG) and the Office of Special Plans in the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, and the use of information provided by the Iraqi National Congress. The committee's efforts have taken on renewed urgency given recent revelations in the United Kingdom regarding the apparent minutes of a July 23, 2002, meeting between Prime Minister Tony Blair and his senior national security advisors. These minutes-known as the "Downing Street Memo"-raise troubling questions about the use of intelligence by American policy makers-questions that your committee is uniquely situated to address. The memo indicates that in the summer of 2002, at a time the White House was promising Congress and the American people that war would be their last resort, that they believed military action against Iraq was "inevitable." The minutes reveal that President "Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."

The American people took the warnings that the administration sounded seriously-warnings that were echoed at the United Nations and here in Congress as we voted to give the president the authority to go to war. For the sake of our democracy and our future national security, the public must know whether such warnings were driven by facts and responsible intelligence, or by political calculation. These issues need to be addressed with urgency. This remains a dangerous world, with American forces engaged in Iraq and Afghanistan, and other challenges looming in Iran and North Korea. In this environment, the American public should have the highest confidence that policy makers are using intelligence objectively-never manipulating it to justify war, but always to protect the United States. The contents of the Downing Street Memo undermine this faith and only rigorous Congressional oversight can determine the truth. We urge the committee to complete the second phase of its investigation with the maximum speed and transparency possible, producing, as it did at the end of Phase I, a comprehensive, unclassified report from which the American people can benefit directly.

Sincerely,
John Kerry
Co-signers: Sens. Tim Johnson, Jon Corzine, Jack Reed, Frank Lautenberg, Barbara Boxer, Edward Kennedy, Thomas Harkin, Jeff Bingaman, Richard Durbin
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 12:58 PM
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45. Why the hell didn't Hillary & Obama sign Kerry's letter??!!
Dems to me don't seem to be too well organized -- they sure as heck don't circle the wagons when deadly serious issues are on the minds of countless millions of americans -- but come election day their in your face like they've been there all along?

Senator Boxer has been busting her butt trying to make a difference while Hillary smiles and pats her on the back from a distance??
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:35 AM
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46. It Made NO Sense To Me!
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