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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:30 PM
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work dilemma - a question of principle - what should i do?
The contract agency I've worked for for years gave me some paperwork to sign for a week long Flash gig at Microsoft (which is now over). I thought it was the usual sort of temporary worker agreement and signed it but forgot to send it to them (fortunately). Well after the job was over they asked for it and I actually read it. It's atrocious.

Not only is it asking for things like a county, federal and state criminal search and an education verification (i'm okay with that stuff since it's job related) they also want a credit report and 'consumer' report (whatever that is).

The fine print reads: "I consent to have a background investigation made as to my character, professional reputation, employment history, credit history, driving record, educational background, criminal record, personal characteristics, and mode of living."

AND MODE OF LIVING!!! What does that mean???

it goes on: "I am aware that the investigative consumer report I consent to have prepared may include information obtained from interviews with my past or present neighbors, friends, associates, employers, or co-workers, among others, who have or may have information about me"

and then: "I hereby forever release, discharge, exonerate, hold harmless and indemnify CIS Inc, its employees, representatives, agents and subcontractors, and any other person, entity, organization or institution furnishing information to them from any and all liabilities of every nature and kind, including but not limited to claims for libel, slander, invasion of privacy, related tort claims, misuse of information obtained from CIS Inc. and any other claim or cause of action arising out of the furnishing, inspection, or copying of any documents" and so on.

Well of course, no way will I sign the egregious invasion of personal privacy. And as a matter of principle - I believe the more people bend over and sign crap like this the worse our society becomes. But - I've put my agency - who I like working for - in a difficult legal bind by not reading and signing it before working the job.

Any advice? Should I cross out the objectionable parts (most of it)? Should I just say no?
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:41 PM
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1. I would suggest some subtle reply such as
You fucking Nazi bastards! Are you out of your goddamn minds?! No way am I signing this fascist pig shit!

Just my thoughts on the matter. You may wish to modify it some. Glad I could help. }(
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:43 PM
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2. well yeah, that one crossed my mind too. thanks.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:43 PM
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3. Too late, job's over.
No do-overs. Say you're sorry, but they should have really asked for it before the gig ended.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:47 PM
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7. the dilemma part is this
i've worked through this agency for 6 years. i'm starting a contract tomorrow that i like and want to keep. although i won't sign it, i'm trying to figure a 'graceful' way to go about it.

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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:20 AM
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12. They have no leverage, already
They don't want to take you from the client because of THEIR issue. There's nothing they can do.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:44 PM
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4. Don't return it! Or if you do, hand-mark it to read the way YOU want
strike out, edits, etc. and INITIAL EACH change and COPY IT and then send it back
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:45 PM
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5. OR dup a contract you used before and LIKE - modify as necessary and
send that back instead
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:45 PM
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6. You doing a job at the Department of Defense? Unless it's for a security
clearance, there is no need for most of that.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:48 PM
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8. ha! you'd think
nope just a week long graphic art job for Microsoft. I've contracted for them before and never had to sign anything this insane.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:09 AM
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9. Be honest, but wait until someone else brings it up.
Don't mention anything until they mention it.

If the paperwork was needed for a previous job and it's over, there is no reason for Microsoft to gather information about you. They no longer have an interest in your background. In fact, if it were that important, they would have held the job until you did sign the paperwork.

If you're pinned down, be honest. Say that you didn't remember the forms before you were hired. Also, that there really isn't a reason to sign at this point and you're uncomfortable signing the paperwork for no reason.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:15 AM
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10. what i was doing
Edited on Wed Jun-22-05 12:18 AM by kineta
today got NEED THAT RELEASE FORM TODAY email. Breach of contract (theirs not mine) and so forth.

Thanks for all the advice. I just crossed all the truly objectionable parts out. Looks like something requested from the B* admin via FOIA ;-)
Meaning there's about a dozen words left.

I'm sure, now that I crossed out the part saying I won't sue for libel or invasion of privacy, the company that does the 'investigating' won't touch it with a pole.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:16 AM
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11. keep "forgetting" it, if that fails, claim the dog ate it/ nt
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