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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:21 PM
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Letterman just asked Clinton about DSM
Bill didn't really know much about it but said that it's clear that Bushies wanted to do this from the git-go!
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Hun Joro Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:23 PM
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1. Clinton: "What was that?"
Sorry, I call bullshit. He HAS to know exactly what the DSM is. I am so disillusioned with this man, there are no words.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:24 PM
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3. You're correct, Clinton sElected his words carefully....
Because he helped cover up all the lies for PNAC. I "noe" longer do have any respect for Clinton, minus the fact hes not a completely evil criminal like the ones he worked for.
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:43 PM
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23. Clinton covered his ass
He knows he could be in hot water, but there are more pressing matters...

Namely, Bushit and his cronies.
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Lilli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:24 PM
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4. he phrased it that way
so he could control his response based upon how Letterman defined it...
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:26 PM
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7. No shit!...Its time to go for the jugular...
Why would any dem still be playing nicey with these evil motherfuckers?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:27 PM
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8. Yeah, that was weird
It could have been sincere, but more likely a politcal sidestep
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:29 PM
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He doesn't want to upset his new BushDaddy figure...
You're right to call bull shit. I think the honeymoon with his waffling is over. We need new leaders, new fighters, and enough already of both Clinton (through supporting bLiar) and Carter (through giving election thief James Baker) credibility).

NEW LEADERS FOR A NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY

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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:39 PM
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17. But he didn't dismiss it. He said Bush wanted HUssein before he ever
became President and that some of the people currently in the Administration did as well. He also mentioned Cheney's trips the CIA
and said he wasn't going there for coffee and a chat.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:45 PM
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24. You're not the only one.
I'm disillusioned with him and Kerry too. Just a few minutes ago I was remembering Kerry saying that if he his vote on the Iraq war resolution to do over again, he'd still vote the same way. I just cannot understand or accept that.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:24 PM
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2. Don't forget, he has his head up Poppy Bush's arse ....
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:26 PM
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5. Where is the outrage?
Where are the DUDQs and their accusatory mouthing-offs?

I just had to go shower after a thread that pissed on another Democrat who possibly could take a red statee for the Senate and, yet, Clinton has been acting worse than this other Dem ever has.

Look - I like the Big Dog. I'm just pointing out hypocricy on the board.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:26 PM
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6. Can you say Demopublican? I knew you could.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:29 PM
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9. Depends on what "is........IS". No knowledge of DSM? Just sad...
He danced all around that question....
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:29 PM
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10. They tired to destroy you Bill!
Do you remember that? Do you remember those little impeachment hearings?
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:31 PM
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11. He doesn't care about it...
We need Howard Dean and his senators to come out on the floor, THEY NEED TO BE THE NEW LEADERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!!!!
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:34 PM
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12. Hey remember. They thought he was crazy!! Bill and Hillary
are going to eat it on this!!
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:13 AM
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31. You got that right...
Howard Dean needs to give em' Hell!!!!! :thumbsup:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:37 PM
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16. Yep!!!!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:42 PM
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20. Yup. He needs to be reminded. nt
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 10:16 AM
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39. Yeah but he needs his absent daddy's approval too much.
Just like Bush Sr needs a son worth calling his own.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:34 PM
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13. Tin foil hat time, has anyone one here ever heard of the Tri-Laterals or
the Bilderbergs, etc. Join us, membership is free in the society.

Bill and Hillary, Kerry and Edwards, they are all playing a role. It goes back many years.

Carter was the beginning. After they finished off everyone else.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:43 PM
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21. Jimmy "Vote For Cafta" Carter?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:46 PM
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25. i havent heard this one n/t
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:35 PM
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14. I am so disillusioned
I"m having trouble typing. I didn't watch because I know how Clinton's been acting lately. But my hubby did, and he told me what Bill said. He said that he asked what's that? I couldn't believe my ears, and I'm really sick of rationalizations for this man's obtuseness. It's either "put on" or real; I don't give a * which. Either way, it is disgusting , and to deny it is just putting lipstick on a pig.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:59 PM
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29. You and me both
The republicans tried to destroy him, he doesn't seem to care.

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:36 PM
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15. Forget about Bill. If he's got any interest left in politics, its how
can he get Hillary elected. Other than that, he's got his nest egg so everyone else can go pound sand.

Hey, I know the economy was good during the Clinton years, but a lot of that was luck. And it's easy to be a popular president when the economy is going great. And compared to the guys before and after him, it is a given that he's a much better man and was a better president. But he's a lot like Kerry turned out to be. Looking out for number one first, and maybe he'll throw a few crumbs to the people.

Bill Clinton has had plenty of opportunity to help democrats big time. He's failed us every time.

Let the dream go folks. He just ain't all we cracked him up to be.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:41 PM
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18. "Primary Colors"...
...was on again the other night.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:43 PM
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22. Clinton has never been a liberal
When president he was always Republican-lite...but that doesn't stop getting me nostalgic about those times. It was still 1000 times better than it is today
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:49 PM
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27. Well, Clinton was a better president than Shrub, no question.
Just like Kerry would be a better president. But then, that isn't saying a whole hell of a lot!
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:41 PM
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19. Clinton's a politician.
I've never been a huge fan of the man, and I've always tried to figure out where that opinion comes from. After a lot of thinking, I've arrived at a simplt conclusion: the man is a politician.

An extremely adept politician, but a politican nonetheless. He'll sell people out when he needs to. He'll do what needs to be done, even at the expense of people, and he'll feel little or no remorse for it. He's extremely intelligent. I agree with some of his stances. But, simply put, the man knows, lives, and loves politics.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:48 PM
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26. "Intelligent?" Maybe...
...but "wise?" No way.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:52 PM
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28. You can't *not* be intelligent
and get as for, or be as popular, as Clinton.

Not wise, though. If he were wise, he'd be a liberal. :)
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:01 AM
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30. Clinton and McCain
Edited on Fri Jun-17-05 12:02 AM by gauguin57
Both of them got ROYALLY ROGERED by the Bushies/Republican machine, and both of them crawled right up Bush's ass.
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:15 AM
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32. Hey, guys,...dont forget Hillary may be running in 2008.
and the Repugs hang on his every word
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streblin Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:16 AM
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33. hey not an easy question to answer first time out
sure he politicized his response. the fact remains he acknowledged the DSM - he also mentioned cheney (give bill credit here he was specific as to a@@holes actions, cheney really sucks | truly evil) & BUSHIT's intentions (premeditated). good people this is but day one, let this story grow, keep pushing the truth. it's the end (of BUSHIT) which we should focus upon and any contribution towards that end earns my thanks.
:patriot:
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:24 AM
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34. Ol' Bill's great buddies with the BFEE now. GAG.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:25 AM
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35. If Clinton and much of Washington was aware of what Cheney & Bush
Edited on Fri Jun-17-05 12:30 AM by Dover
were up to (recognized they were manipulating intelligence to support an attack on Iraq) then WHY did they sign onto the War?

When asked this before they claimed that they assumed the intelligence they were presented with by Bushco was accurate and that they were, essentially, tricked.
Most of us here at D.U. were incredulous that they could have been taken in when everything pointed to these sorts of manipulations.
So, apparently, the Dems who signed on WEREN'T tricked. They knew.

And of course Kerry has HAD to take up the DSM cause, acting all outraged, because he had claimed he was taken in, like the others, regarding the intelligence.



So ask yourself....why DID they sign on?

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 02:53 AM
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36. Yeah and Clinton about choked on his coffee when Dave asked him
about the memo. There is no doubt that Clinton is a lying rethug! :puke:
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:55 AM
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37. I actually thought Bill slammed the administration pretty well
He said various members of Bush's team wanted to take out Saddam well before they took office. He also mentioned that Dick Cheney made several trips to the CIA, trips that Clinton mentioned were certainly not to simply have a cup of coffee.

Also remember, he is a former President, and traditionally former presidents don't get too involved in current events. Former Presidents certainly generally don't make political attacks. I really don't understand all the negativity over Clinton's response to the question. It isn't his place to make the most strident political attacks, that is the job of CURRENT elected Democrats.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 10:00 AM
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38. You are right, it was the Letterman Show after all
Did people expect him to rant and rave on such a comic light hearted show?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 10:22 AM
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40. The Responses On This Thread Are A Disgrace... But Typical. Forget
what all else Clinton said... just trash him.

DU'ers can really disgust me at times.
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