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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 01:56 PM
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"Friends of John Kerry" just called looking for a $110 donation
to support the Kids First act. I told the gentleman that I would not give a dime until JK and all the dems speak publically about whats REALLY going on in our government. I felt sorry for the dude, he sounded shocked, but I am at the end of my rope. Seems like the ONLY person in the Congress who is really making a difference in fighting the corruption is Conyers - I love kids but I don't trust JK with my money.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:00 PM
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1. DON'T GIVE TO THAT ORGANIZATION!
It's a fraud! It is NOT affiliated with the real Kerry organizations, which only ask through email or internet.

Now, on a separate note, Kerry has been doing an outstanding job. But regardless of what your views are on Kerry, NEVER GIVE MONEY TO THAT ORGANIZATION!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:00 PM
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2. "Nothing is more important to kids than not lying to them to start a war"
"When you get our Congressmen to start speaking out against that maybe I will start contributing again."
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:03 PM
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3. Doesn't sound like a legitimate organization
Someone trying to make a fast buck is what it sounds like. I tell people whocall wanting money from me for democrat this or that that I'll go look at their website and if I like what I see I'll contribute there.
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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:05 PM
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4. Damn that guy
Since the election, besides trying to get health care for the kids, he's been campaigning against voter suppression.

He was the first Senator to create a buzz about the Downing Street Memo.

He's been speaking out about the abuses of power in both houses of Congress under DeLay and Frist.

He's spoken out against right wing judges.

He's defended Head start against cuts.

He's been active on several environmental issues.

He's raised the serious questions about appointees such as Wolfowitz and Boulton

However he hasn't managed to totally throw those guys out of office and end all the corrution single handedly, so I guess he isn't good enough.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:11 PM
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6. Why the hell should I give him my money? He has enough already.
I voted for the guy, isn't that enough? And, to date, anything Kerry has done has NOT been visible enough to make a shits worth of difference, and don't expect me to believe that he doesn't know this. He COULD use his clout as the "Former Presidential Candidate" to actually to force the media to cover DSM. Yet again, he is leaving it to others to get things done. He's been talking about this Kids First Act for at least 6 months, what the hell??? Bring it to the damn floor already. Why isn't HE going on "Meet The Pricks" and "Face The Fascists" instead of Biden??? Its like he comes up for air just to jeep the donations flowing. All talk no action.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:16 PM
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7. Yawn
:boring:
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:22 PM
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9. you've used the same "non answers" since Kerry caved in '04
At least you're consistently blind...
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:33 PM
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10. LOL!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 03:41 PM
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13. I beg to differ . Kerry took no leadership in these areas
the campaign for health for kids is an authentic campaign, but it is a useless campaign.

I've gotten the call too, but I told the caller that I won't give a cent more to any future Kerry campaign unless and until, at the minimum he personally confronts the current regime's corruption, immediately calls for an end to the war in Iraq, and makes good on the only promise he had the power to keep, which was dealing with the voter fraud issues in the 2004 election which once again illegally selected Bush as leader of the "free world". This done to the devastation of not only the hundreds of thousands of those whose votes were never counted - but to the devastation of America's democracy and our constitution.

As far as "leading" the way on the voter suppression, I beg to differ strongly with you, from all reports, Kerry was essentially AWOL through MOST of the entire investigative efforts in Florida and Ohio - until nearly the very end, and by then it was too little, too late. I also read and heard about numerous reports that Kerry's people actually obstructed investigations and those results, rather than vigorously pursue discovery in many cases, and in other cases, simply put no energy or effort in enumeration the endless list of lingering, unanswered questions.

And let the record again show that it was Rep Conyers, who took leadership action in holding forums on the Ohio voting issues - no one in congress had done that before Conyers.

And it was Conyers who first brought up the question on the DSM. It was Kennedy who was the first SENATOR to bring attention to the DSM matter - we waited for Kerry to do it, but reasons unknown to me, it was Kennedy who brought the matter up instead. One can speculate about what was going on there - but most likely it was inside politics. Which I'm personally sick of.

So should Kerry be, but he seems to prefer the role of the dutiful team player, yielding to his elders instead of the courageous leader. On the other hand, in this case, I'm personally pleased that it was Kennedy, because he did so with out mincing words - which is necessary.

Even though Kerry was the actual winner of the 2004 elections, because of his broken promise on voting suppression, because of his horrible campaign and position the Iraq war, he has since the elections become a failed candidate in the hearts and minds of most democratic voters that I'm in touch with.

In fact, not one single person I know personally who counted desperately on Kerry to win this past election, has a kind word to say about him now, never wants his name mentioned in their presence again, and are vehemently opposed to any future bid for the office.

This sentiment could change if Kerry reacquainted himself with the soul of the man he was in 1971. He had a lot of opportunity to do that during the presidential campaign, indeed just in the hours, days and weeks following the elections - but he refuses or simply can no longer connect to his former self.

Instead, he chose the role of just another sold out politician, an appeaser to the fascists regime that are laughing at the meaningless toothless, health care for kids campaign.

Again, he is in the privileged position to be bold, courageous and to take leadership on a number of very important issues, health care for ALL not withstanding, but first we have to bring sunlight to the corruptions in this administration and and the big lie about our foreign policies in Iraq and elsewhere, most particularly South America, (which he refuses to do)expose the big lie on the so called moral's debate, lead the fight in securing our civil liberties, and the separation of church and state - denounce evangelicals attempts to blur the distinctions between the "10 commandments and the United States Constitution, denounce the usurping tax payers money to promote their cult ideology - expose the elections fraud etc etc etc etc. The list is endless, but to date Kerry seems to be MIA.


He would have to LEAD the struggle to end the war in Iraq, not shy away from it, he would have to LEAD the fight against the rise of Fascism in America and their scorched earth policies which is pretty much dismantled our Constitution, which I was taught, presidents and Congress had a LEGAL and MORAL obligation to UPHOLD AND DEFEND.

If Kerry should take swift and decisive action on these major fronts, he could change the hearts and minds of millions of American's in no time, and maybe Health Care for Kids (or all)could actually be realized.

Sadly, it doesn't appear to me that Kerry even gets it.


















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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 03:49 PM
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15. Another yawn
Thanks for the Rovian talking points. :boring:
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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 03:56 PM
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16. Untrue
Your are ignoring virtually everything Kerry has done since the election.

There's not much point in taking the time to convince someone is convinced of a fantasy, but I can't let this response go by without noting that the claims here about Kerry are utterly untrue.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:10 PM
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5. This sounds like SCAM to me!!! Please report to TV news station
and let them know there is scam going on out there and let people be aware!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:18 PM
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8. I've heard mixed things about the group
I've heard some say it's legit and some say it's not. :shrug: I haven't had any Emails lately asking for money from Kerry. Maybe I'm not reading them all. I'll have to keep a look out.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 02:36 PM
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11. JohnKerry.com says "Paid for by Friends of John Kerry, Inc."
Is this something different?
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 03:12 PM
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12. Yes, it's different
There is someone out there pulling a phone scam, saying they're from "Friends of John Kerry". But they are rip-off artists who are not associated with Kerry at all. Kerry has recently formed a PAC, called Keeping America's Promise. I think that's the only organization that would be doing any fundraising for him right now.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 03:47 PM
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14. First of all... any fundraiser asking on the phone for $110.00 is a red
Edited on Sat Jun-11-05 03:47 PM by Rainscents
flag. I know for fact, if fund raiser do call, it almost always, either $25.00 or $50.00 or wherever you can give.
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 04:58 PM
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17. I got a call from someone calling for Kerry
I hung up on him. Reegardless of if it is legitimate Kerry gets no more of my money. He has plenty left from the recount fund that thousands including I contributed to, that never got spent.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 06:31 PM
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18. But he plans on using that money for another run for the whitehouse.
Edited on Sat Jun-11-05 06:33 PM by Andy_Stephenson
don't you think he should hold on to that money for his next campaign? I think nexttime he will really have our backs and will make sure all the votes get counted. This last time you know...thew votes were just not there and Bush* won fair and square.

:sarcasm:
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