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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 08:38 AM
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This Mem. Day, I'll Remember the 3,000 who were Sacrificed for bushco
Edited on Sat May-28-05 08:38 AM by mopaul
3,000 people of all nations and creeds and colors and religions, who made a sacrifice, but not voluntarily, to set off a chain of events leading us to this day, and the 3 and 1/2 years ahead.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 08:50 AM
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1. Thank you, I'll remember them too.
Edited on Sat May-28-05 08:52 AM by Stephanie


Right downtown from me - I'll be biking past there shortly. 3000 innocents, crushed to death, burned alive, or killed by jumping from 70, 80, 100 stories. 3000 office workers, just like you, your neighbors, co-workers, friends, relatives. 3000 folks just working at their computers, making deliveries, bussing tables, taking a meeting. 3000 whose horrific deaths could have been prevented had George Bush only ACTED on the many, many warnings he received prior to the event. I'll be thinking of them this weekend. Thanks mopaul.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 08:52 AM
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2. i'm still in a state of shock
but most folks seem to have 'gotten over it'
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 11:54 AM
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13. I will NEVER EVER forget!
9/11 is one of the reasons I came to DU. For me, the shock has never faded and while it took me awhile to figure out what had really happened, my only hope is that there are millions of others who, like me, won't let go or give up until they find out the whole truth and nothing but. We all must try and spread the word as much as we can-the 3000+ people who died on 9/11 deserve nothing less.

I will not have closure or peace until the truth is totally exposed to the entire world and the bastards responsible are doing time! :grr:
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:27 AM
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5. Thanks mopaul and Stephanie.
Edited on Sat May-28-05 09:28 AM by Amonester
May I also add:

3000, plus tens of thousands horrific deaths and casualties would have been prevented because President Gore and his competent and dedicated staff would have just raised proper security measures at ALL airports and launched a big investigation into ALL Pilot Training Academies' students background upon receiving THE EXACT SAME REPORTS the criminal "new Pearl Harbor wishing's" PNAC 'selected' ones got and WILLFULLY IGNORED.


Never Forget.
Never Give Up Hope And Work For It If You Can.
The People In The Civilized World Are With You All The Way.

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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 10:43 AM
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8. Not to mention...all death in the south tower could have been averted
If the asshole had put down his book about the goat and done his job for once.



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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 11:24 AM
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11. That wasn't a part of the second Pearl Harbor's plan.
These immoral crooks know no boundaries.

:cry:
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:25 AM
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3. We all need to do more than just remember those poor souls
Look to the following web sites for more info. There are a lot of them some complain that some of them are just to confuse the issue or as in pentagon speak Disinformation ops or as we now say the Corporate Media.
these just scratch the surface their are a lot more including one looking for more info in a RICO lawsuit naming GWB as head conspirator in the execution of 911


http://www.911forthetruth.com /
http://www.reopen911.org.uk/freedvd.php


download (bit torrent) Loose change DVD
http://www.911wasalie.com/phpwebsite/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=22


Who ran this operation look back at the most famous black op coup in the USA http://jfkii.com/order.php

see a prior black op job to prevent world peace
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/SAP.html
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST /
http://www.119-questions.com/media/start.htm
http://www.911truth.org/index.php
A letter by UL
The following letter was sent today by Kevin Ryan of Underwriters Laboratories to Frank Gayle of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Underwriters Laboratories is the company that certified the steel componets used in the constuction of the World Trade Center towers. The information in this letter is of great importance http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/121104easilywithstood.htm
http://www.erichufschmid.net/index.html
http://www.legitgov.org/essay_kane_fema_terror_drill_102904.html
http://www.the-movement.com /

http://www.911truth.org/links.php




http://www.911inplanesite.com /

http://www.911wasalie.com/phpwebsite /




This should prove the case that we been had on 911!
http://www.tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=art...


Missile & remote control systems added to small jets before 9-11; same parts found at Pentagon

Two civilian defense contractor employees--told to remain silent--say other workers quietly retro-fitted missile and remote control systems onto A-3 jets at Colorado public airport prior to September 11 when similar A-3 parts much smaller than a Boeing 757 were found at Pentagon

Presidential candidate says scores of retired and active military and intelligence officials would testify before current grand jury probing government involvement in 9/11 attacks

by Tom Flocco

Fort Collins, Colorado -- May 26, 2005 -- TomFlocco.com --
According to two civilian defense contractor employees working at commercial corporate facilities at Fort Collins-Loveland Municipal Airport (left), in the months before the September 11 attacks U.S. Air Force defense contractors brought in A-3 Sky Warrior aircraft under cover of darkness to be completely refitted and modified at the small civilian airport in Colorado.

The revelations are important evidence for a reportedly ongoing secret 9/11 probe because widely available Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA) photographs taken during the attacks clearly show that the few aircraft parts found at the Pentagon belonged to a small jet very similar to a modified A-3 Sky Warrior--not the American Airlines Boeing 757.

It is not known whether all members of Congress are aware of the under-the-radar-screen grand jury proceedings, who has already testified, and whether the probe is purposefully being kept from public knowledge, according to government intelligence sources.

The two witnesses say that separate military contractor teams--working independently at different times--refitted Douglas A-3 Sky Warriors (above) with updated missiles, Raytheon's Global Hawk unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) remote control systems, fire control systems, engines, transponders, and radio-radar-navigation systems--a total makeover, seemingly for an operation more important than use as a simple missile testing platform for defense contractor Hughes-Raytheon.

The employees asked not to be identified for personal safety reasons and fear of job retaliation; but both told 2008 independent presidential candidate Karl Schwarz (left) "the Air Force brought in separate teams to do top-secret military work unrelated to commercial aviation at our airport, and we were told by our bosses not to discuss what we had seen with anyone."

The witnesses were quite fearful about several recent "suicides, car wrecks--mysterious deaths--directly related to the aviation experts" working on the systems that were installed on the A-3’s at Fort Collins-Loveland--having breached the government-blocked information flow at great personal risk, according to Schwarz--but providing more evidence for a New York 9/11 investigation.

Schwarz, a former Republican from Arkansas now living in Georgia and running as an independent to clean up government corruption and crime told TomFlocco.com that he met with the employees for about an hour in February to discuss the issue.

The witnesses told Schwarz that each jet was placed in a hanger just big enough for a work crew and one A-3 Sky Warrior; and "we were under strict orders not to discuss what the military teams were doing or what we saw."

The presidential candidate told us "there are about 150 retired and active U.S. military and federal intelligence officers who will come forward and testify regarding government involvement in the September 11 attacks--but only if there is a serious criminal grand jury."

Small plane evidence moved at Pentagon

The approximate 16-foot entry hole at the outside facade of the Pentagon on 9/11 has been the subject of countless questions by those who say the hole was caused by an air-to-ground missile (AGM) fired from a small military jet rather than an impact from a Boeing 757.

Interestingly, the Hughes division manufactures the AGMs; and the Raytheon division maintains the last few A-3 Sky Warriors in operation save 2-4 Air Force jets--while also manufacturing the Global Hawk UAV remote control systems.

Some reasons cited to support a missile hole include evidence that a) the wings and rear stabilizer caused virtually no damage to the outside walls and windows at point of impact, b) no 757 interior or exterior parts were found at the scene, c) the soft nose of a 757 would have had difficulty piercing through three Pentagon wall rings, and d) three aircraft parts found were similar to the somewhat outdated but still serviceable Douglas A-3 Sky Warrior military attack jet rather than the much larger Boeing 757.

Air-traffic controllers from the Washington, DC sector originally said the incoming plane was a military jet according to reports; but no grand jury has called them to testify and they have been strangely gagged from speaking out.

One air traffic controller from another Northeast sector revealed to a 9-11 widow that FBI threats were made of both a personal and career nature: "You are ordered never to speak about what you saw on your screen during the attacks; and if you do, things will not go well for you and your family."
Curiously, a large piece of wreckage was found in the entry hole; but the public was kept from closely observing what appears to be a sheared-off piece of wing from a much smaller jet than a Boeing 757.

A group of military personnel and federal officials in suits tightly covered the piece of wreckage with a blue tarp and carried it away to a waiting truck. No reporters or independent aircraft experts have been permitted to examine any of the recovered aircraft parts and no subpoenas have been issued to hear public grand jury testimony from the "movers."

Other government officials who looked more like FBI agents than rescue workers were also photographed moving evidence around immediately after the crash; but none have been subpoenaed to publicly testify as to whether they were bringing evidence to or removing it from a mass murder crime scene.

As if they had prior knowledge, within minutes after the Pentagon crash--FBI agents quickly confiscated a) video tape from a gas station security camera aimed directly at the exact point of impact while recording the size of the plane and/or missile, b) security camera video film from a nearby Sheraton hotel and c) film from a Virginia Transportation Department freeway overpass camera.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:27 AM
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4. Then sign this petition.
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G2099 Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 10:25 AM
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6. And Trump Just Wants To Build Over 3,000 Dead
Donald Trump just wants to build right on the grave of the 3,000 dead like they don't count. "Oh, 3,000 dead? Well, we'll just rebuild the towers like no 3,000 were murdered."

I was at the wall street area recently and the place is like a grave yard - the "spirit" of that area is "gone."

Driving past the site where the "towers" were, you can't help but to "feel deeply" that a great memorial needs to be on that site, no replacement towers, 3,000 were murdered on that site. People were jumping out the widows, right on national TV, for real, no make believe TV it was "real."
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 10:48 AM
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9. What I want to know is.... who would work in a rebuild of the orig towers?
You wouldn't get me to work in them...

I certainly couldn't deal with those types of bad vibes on a daily basis and I doubt I am alone in that feeling!
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 11:16 AM
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10. Most Ironworkers who built the towers were...
... Mohawks, and mostly because they don't feel any vertigo.

<snip>

A few North Country residents are grieveing over a unique relationship to the destruction in New York City. David Sommerstein profiles an ironworker from the Akwesasne Mohawk reservation who helped build the twin towers of the World Trade Center nearly three decades ago.

At left, William stands outside Ironworkers Local 440 in Akwesasne holding a picture of himself as a 19-year-old eating lunch at the World Trade Center construction site.

...<snip>...

http://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/archive.php?id=1313


A Memorial to the Victims of the Biggest Holdup In History.

Oui. Mandatory.
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G2099 Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 11:27 AM
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12. Exactly
Even if the towers were rebuilt on the site, who would want to work in a area with such vibes? It would be like working in a grave yard.

That whole area, in downtown, NY, is now like a graveyard. There's no getting around it. I would not be surprised if the area dies and people and business move out.

The big, pink elephant in the Towers Area is that 3,000 people were murdered in that area. People are working area a murder site and that fact ain't going away.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 02:11 PM
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14. The new Building 7 is almost done and nobody wants to rent there
It's a hard sell renting office space there now.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:24 PM
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15. I totally agree with all three of you who responded
If I were buying a house and I found out that it had been the site of some horrific murder or event for even ONE family...I won't lie,
I would probably pass on buying it.

Bottom line...it would bother me and now add working 1000 feet up into the mix and I have three words "forget about it!"

As one of you pointed out...who in the world will they find to BUILD the thing little alone rent space in it?
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:31 PM
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16. leave the scar there, as a reminder about how bush didn't warn us
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:14 PM
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17. I totally agree
I watched a show on the building of the twin towers and what struck me... is that they were not only not popular when they were originally built, but according to the show they were not very profitable either.

There is something asinine that always comes to mind in regards to 911--remember the original Die Hard? A sky scraper was supposedly taken over by terrorists but it was really just a bank robbery?

I know I am nuts but that has always stuck in my head.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 10:40 AM
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7. I'll remember Marla Ruzicka and Rachel Corrie
Two women who faced down the bombs, the bullets, the bulldozers and worse with simple humanity and dignity.
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