Just remember, most current Repuke leaders and pundits

[Maestro]

never even served in the military. They are simply chickenhawks. The thread honoring the vets made me rememeber a bit of info that I copied a while back from here at DU. I can't remember who posted it, but I thought the info was good enough to save. So remember these facts when the repukes are claiming their psuedo-patriotism and spewing comments about how much they support the military. Democrats actually have served this country. The repukes either ran from duty or took very "easy" assignments.

Democrats:

* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sgt, Air Force 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat
V, Purple Hearts.
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star,
Vietnam..
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven
campaign ribbons.
* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze
Stars, and Soldier's Medal.
* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star
and Legion of Merit.
* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze
Star with Combat V.
* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
* Chuck Robb: Vietnam
* Howell Heflin: Silver Star
* George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments Entered draft but
received #311.
* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters.
* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.


Republicans:

* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
* Tom Delay: did not serve.
* Roy Blunt: did not serve.
* Bill Frist: did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: did not serve.
* Trent Lott: did not serve.
* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
* Jeb Bush: did not serve.
* Karl Rove: did not serve.
* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
* Vin Weber: did not serve.
* Richard Perle: did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
* Richard Shelby: did not serve.
* Jon! Kyl: did not serve.
* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.
* George W. Bush: failed to complete his six-year National Guard; got assigned to Alabama so he could campaign for family friend running for U.S. Senate; failed to show up for required medical exam, disappeared from duty.
* Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role making movies.
* B-1 Bob Dornan: Consciously enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
* Phil Gramm: did not serve.
* John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
* John M. McHugh: did not serve.
* JC Watts: did not serve.
* Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem," although continued in NFL for 8 years.
* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
* George Pataki: did not serve.
* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
* John Engler: did not serve.
* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
* Arnold Schwarzenegger: AWOL from Austrian army base.

Pundits & Preachers
* Sean Hannity: did not serve.
* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
* Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
* Michael Savage: did not serve.
* George Will: did not serve.
* Chris Matthews: did not serve.
* Paul Gigot: did not serve.
* Bill Bennett: did not serve.
* Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
* John Wayne: did not serve.
* Bill Kristol: did not serve.
* Kenneth Starr: did not serve.
* Antonin Scalia: did not serve.
* Clarence Thomas: did not serve.
* Ralph Reed: did not serve.
* Michael Medved: did not serve.
* Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
* Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't shoot back.)

[Hailtothechimp]

1. Recommended for Greatest page

I was flipping channels tonight and I saw that asswipe Sean Hannity tear into a guy about how his freedom of speech was a gift from the military. When you consider he never put himself in harm's way, the hypocrisy reeks to no end.

God Bless America. Maybe she'll come back someday.

[Maestro]

27. Thanks. -nt

[JimmyJazz]

2. Excuse me! I'm sorry, but I have family who served during wartime

and, while they might be republicans, they served just the same as the democrats. I understand your need to point out famous republicans who didn't serve, but to call all republicans chickhawks does a great disservice to all those who wore a military uniform. Do you think that in the heat of battle people really gave a shit about political affiliation? They were "brothers in arms." Let's honor all of our fallen men this Memorial Day weekend, not just the democrats.

[FuzzySlippers]

4. I'm with you on this.

Regrettably, some of my relatives who have served in the armed forces have been Republicans. But they, too, served honorably. I would hate to see their service disparaged this Memorial Day weekend because of party affiliation.

[ElectroPrincess]

5. Well that won't stop the Freepers from trashing us, but you're correct ...

We should take the higher ground.

[JimmyJazz]

9. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

The higher ground is a very good place to stand. :)

[Maestro]

21. I love that response!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am going to use that the next time I hear some freak calling on some guy to fry in the electric or receive a lethal injection.

[Jara sang]

6. I agree, while I am completely against the Bush admin's foreign policy

I feel that those poor men and women in uniform have been grossly deceived by our government. They should not be faulted because their emotions run high and their love of their country is too great. The whole world has been duped by Bushco, some of us are just a little quicker to recognize it and it is up to us to show others the fraud that is Bush. It does that cause a great disservice and only creates divisions when you "call out" republicans like that, in fact it is what Bushco wants.

[Maestro]

I can see how some would claim that I might be anti-troops

but really I am not. I support those men and women. They enlisted and are following their orders. I just hope they come home soon, safe and sound. I am not mad at them. I am furious with our leaders. Big difference.

[Jara sang]

24. I hear you, I didn't think that you were being anti-troops. n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

7. Right

My grandfather was in the navy and he's republican. He doesn't like Bush though and thinks he's a moron. Not all republicans are chickenhawks.

[Skittles]

26. yeah

but most chickenhawks are republican

[Maestro]

12. I am simply referring to today's pundits, asshat repuke leaders and

ultra-right freepers. Don't read more into my words. It wasn't meant to offend anyone. I simply pointed out the hyprocrisy of the current batch of rethugs. I too have family members, great uncles, cousins who are republican and served well in the military. Do you think I want to bash the military or leveled-headed republicans? Of course, not. I have many friends who are republican and joke around all the time. This post was simply to show the hypocrisy of the current batch of repuke, PNAC, neo-con freak leaders!!!!!!!!!! Period.

[Vincardog]

16. We have to remember that not all Republicans are

Neoconservative Chicken Shit HaWks. Real Republicans are not leaders of Death Cults. Real Republicans do not believe in looting the treasury for personal gain.

My point is that the enemy is the Rabid Radical Right wing Nuts not the republicans.

They are starting to awake to this fact themselves.

FCK the ChickenHawks. Lets take our country back.

Paper Ballots Hand Counts NOW

Impeach the chimp in 07

[Bandit]

35. There was no politics when the shooting started.

We were just Americans not Democrats or Republicans. Politics was never discussed, we had enough to worry about without politics being involved. I am sure many of those I fought beside and shared grief with turned out to be Republicans but at the time it was not an issue.

[johnaries]

41. I think the point to consider here is about the Leadership, not

the people who just vote Republican. It's these Republican Leaders who never served who are so anxious to send our brave military men and women to be cannon fodder. Perhaps if they had any idea what War is really like up close and personal, they wouldn't be so gung-ho to wage it at the drop of a hat.

And although I agree that Memorial Day shouldn't be political, I can't help to think about how many of these same leaders aer the ones who want to cut veteran's benefits and soldier's pay.

When I think about all of those military families that have to resort to FOOD STAMPS just to make ends meet... :nuke:

[Ksec]

3. You forgot the number one rethug Jeff Gannon: Gay Prostitute

excellent post BTW. Happy Memorial Day all

[Maestro]

17. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!

Boy I'd bet he'd be busy with Bolton, if confirmed, and other swinging PNACers.

[lenidog]

8. I can see you bashing famous Republicans for not serving

and quite correct and I commend that part of your post but to label every Republican a chickenhawk is nothing but utter BS. My uncle served 30 years in the US Marine Corp was a lifelong Republican. He saw his first action at the Chosin Reservoir during the Korean War. I served in the US army during the First Gulf War as a member of a M-1 crew I was the only Dem in my vehicle crew. When the shooting starts no one give a shits what the guy next to them has as a party on their voter registation card.

[Ksec]

10. The military grunt is brainwashed though

Most are anyway. If they knew the truth there would be lots more who would call thelselves Democrats.

[JimmyJazz]

11. That's not the same as being a chickenhawk. That's believing

what you are told by someone you think has more knowledge than you. That doesn't make someone a chickenhawk.

[Ksec]

13. Thats true

But most of these politicians listed are chickenhawks. People who push war on others , but did not serve when they could.

[Maestro]

14. Okay I reread my post

and I can see where some could misread my words and for that I apologize. I will edit it soon. See post 12 as well.

[JimmyJazz]

15. Thank you. I totally admire and respect you. I believe you meant

many current Republicans in office and their admirers in the media. Thank you for editing your post for clarification. :)

[Maestro]

18. No problem

Sometimes you post and your brain is thinking one way but your fingers type it out a bit differently. ;)

[lenidog]

19. I misread it and I do apologize

I am in total agreement with your statement that the Republican leadership are a bunch of chickenhawks and I overeacted. I have seen some posts in the past that have painted all Republicans as Chickenhawks and I know from personal experience that is completely wrong. Again I apoligize and join you in remembering all of those men and women who gave their lives for this country this Memorial Day.

[Maestro]

20. It's cool

I don't know if you actually misread though. I had written it in such a way that it could be interpreted as painting a wide brush over all republicans. I edited it to reflect my true feelings so your reading capabilities I think are still fine. ;)

[lenidog]

23. Thank You

:D

[Hubert Flottz]

22. That's a list of KKKonservative KKKloset Nazis too scared to go

and fight the wars they stir up, the chicken hearted chickenhawks are always too busy practicing richcraft, to do their duty for Gawd, Country and Major Oil Companies! Let's face it...Chickenhawks, nor any other kkkind of shitbirds, have never had any BALLS of any kind! Gawd didn't issue the Chickenhawks any Balls, so they must depend on the red blooded American working mans sons, who do have a pair! I don't know why the Chickenhawks are so afraid of getting their balls blown off, when any ninth grade science student can tell you, that chickens nor chickenhawks never have had any real balls to begin with!

[Maestro]

31. I have never seen such obvious "Wag the Dog" scenarios

with this admin. They are the biggest cowards that I know. They are disgrace to all people who have served.

[Hubert Flottz]

36. And the DoD wonders why there are over five thousand soldiers

who are AWOL right this minute! Look at the example their "leaders" in the GOP have set for them! Even Bush/Cheney's Balls were AWOL back in another "time of war"! Where was the GOPer's "Patriotism" when it was their turn in the barrel??? When I see Bush strutting around in those bits of military uniforms like Hitler or Saddam or Bush's new buddy Momar strutted, I could PUKE!

[Maestro]

39. Exactly!

They are simply living vicariously through the military. I suppose they all have small penises so they feel they have to act strong.

[bvar22]

25. Recommending

especially appropriate for Memorial Weekend.
Lest we forget!

[Maestro]

28. Thanks so much

My father was in the military for 21 years and served in Viet Nam. I have lived on very many bases in my lifetime and support our troops. Unfortunately they are being led by asshats.

[Is It Fascism Yet]

29. kick, n/t

[Maestro]

30. Thanks for the kick

I'll do the same. :kick:

[Coexist]

32. wow - Ted Nugent - hahahahahahahah!!!!!!!

[Maestro]

33. He's such a prick

This is not related to the actual topic at hand but I remember going over to the Damage Plan website when Dimebag Darrell was shot and killed. At the website many muscians posted their condolsences. Everyone had flattering comments about Dimebag and how he will incredibly missed. The mofo Nugent posted something to the effect, and I am paraphrasing, "He was a big fan of mine, blah, blah, blah" Anyhow, when everyone else was posting things that praised Dimebag this asshat made himself the center of attention by saying that he didn't respect Dimebag rather Dimebag respected Nugent. What a creep!

[Maestro]

34. bump

[SpiralHawk]

37. The Republican should hang their heads in shame

Chickenhawks. Sunshine patriots. Theocratic bullies.


If you truly believe in Bush's War of Peace, and Assault of Freedom, then shut up and sign up. Other wise I don't want to hear your saber-rattling BS.

[Schema Thing]

38. Nice list. Wes Clark should be on it though.

And I don't know (recently deceased) David Hackworth's political party, but he was a strong critic of Bush and the chickenhawks.

[Maestro]

40. I can't believe he's not there.

I wish I could edit the OP.

[Maestro]

42. .