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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 09:02 AM
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C-SPAN avoiding the Downing Street memo
Someone called in this morning saying they had heard two callers yesterday morning asking about the memo and getting no response. He wanted more information from the host who said he didn't know anything about the memo and suggested google. How dumb are these guys?
It happened before the Amnesty International guy came on.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 09:06 AM
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1. Amazing....how can C-Span have....
David Ray Griffin on there talking about "The New Pearl Harbor" but not know anything about the Downing St. Memo.

It's like someone said on another thread "if we could harness Republican hypocrisy as an energy source, we'd never have to buy another barrel of oil from the middle east"

Add cluelessness and ignorance to that list of energy sources!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:48 PM
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18. I think with the Griffin event
Edited on Fri May-27-05 01:48 PM by FreedomAngel82
they tried to hide it. I looked on the CSPAN schedule list that day it was supposed to be on and nothing was listed. :shrug: Then they aired it again which was strange in itself. Maybe people will just think of him as a "conspericy theorist" and nothing to worry about with him unlike the memo which is proof of Bush's war lies.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 09:09 AM
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2. This also happened on May 13
Edited on Fri May-27-05 09:10 AM by paineinthearse
See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=320x341 for the details.

Basicly, Lamb deflected the question before the guest could answer.

With your addition, it is very clear that CSPAN hosts are under orders to avoid the subject.

NOMINATED TO RAISE DU AWARENESS.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 09:12 AM
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3. DU CALL TO ACTION
Edited on Fri May-27-05 09:21 AM by paineinthearse
1. Watch the CSPAN schedule we post by 10PM every night in the GD forum for an opportunity to call in, either OPEN PHONES or an appropriate guest. Get the daily link at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=320

2. We will post a special reminder next Thursday night about what happened 5/13.

I urge all to make an effort to call CSPAN and follow-up on this CSPAN cover-up.
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snowbird42 Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 09:16 AM
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4. We should all call
C-span was populated by the very worst Hannity/Rush lovers this morning.
I sure didnt believe that the host had never heard of the Downing St memos.

They were insulting to the UN guy and spouted Rush and his ilk by repeatedly praising bolton and his need to "kick ass"
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 10:53 AM
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12. that's because it Fascist Friday!
they need a theme song for that. Something really boppy and retro, don't you think?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 10:47 AM
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26. I suggest "99 Red Balloons" by Nena.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:26 PM
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16. The callers were awful to the UN guy and the Amnesty International guy.
There were a few articulate,liberal callers with intelligent comments and questions. The RW callers were knuckle-dragging, Faux News watching, Rush listening mouth breathers.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 10:11 AM
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10. media reform conference
it's going to be aired this Saturday on C-SPAN:

features AL Franken, Randi Rhodes, David Brock...et al

they do cover the memo if I remember correctly.

08:00 PM EDT and 2:30 (est.) Forum
Freedom of the Press
U.S. Capitol
John Conyers Jr., D-MI
George Miller , D-CA

Don't wanna miss this... I head some of the testimony on AAR but missed the Q&A.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 09:22 AM
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5. Did Anyone Catch Brian's Explanation Yesterday???
First, there have been several callers who have asked about the memo...and one of the other hosts deflected it by saying "we're working on a program about it" or some quick punt...that was over a week ago and still nothing.

I saw Brian deflect that call and cut it off...and I've noticed he is really touchy on the trigger finger on that Democrat line lately. I'd love to clock the time he gives to callers...and weigh them (far right to far left) and see how his show balances out. This would also count for what appears to be a larger number of "Support the president" line calls over Democrats...either that or a lot of Independents seem to be supporting this regime.

And that leads me to something he mentioned yesterday...

Someone called and asked why he had the lines divided as "supports Democrats" and "supports *" as opposed to "support Repugnicans". Brian blew it off saying "we tried that in 2001, but we got a lot of people claiming to be Repugnicans on the line bashing the president...we thought this way would balance things out".

Any comments?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 09:27 AM
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6. you can figure out Lamb's leaning by examing the friday lineups
the ones he hosts - ALWAYS stuffed with Heritage/AEI people.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 09:44 AM
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9. It's More Blatant Than That
I'm convinced this program is used by Rove as the talking point distribution point for hate radio and around the beltway. The MOD ALWAYS comes out on this program and is echoed on the open phone segments. Brian and others move this along by their choice of news stories (Washington Times and New York Post are regular sources) or it'll be planted by whomever shills for the "Hotline". Be assured those points will later be picked up by Rushbo and on into the evening echo chamber.

I've always known this show is not balanced...especially when Brian is on...but at least there are calls from our side that do get through. That's better than most hate radio where the chickenshit hosts can't stand up to truth tellers.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:29 AM
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13. Does each host pick the papers he/she reads?
Because if true, some of them are more liberal than others. I notice Connie and Peter more likely to pick the NYT or WaPo rather than, say, the Washington Times, which Brian and others will favor. And Connie has read more articles about Dems lately. It's subtle, but telling. Pedro seems pretty conservative, and Steve of course. Thoughts?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:17 PM
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21. Steve Skully Could Have Outted Gannon/Guckert
He's on the board of the Washington Press Writers Association...the organization that supposedly the White House uses to accredit "reporters" to their functions. I'd love someone to call him and ask why he never has spoken on this issue. He's not alone. He even went to have his "boss"...the head of this group on WJ one morning and never once mentioned he was on the same board. I've never trusted that weasel.

It used to be that I didn't care the politics of a host on that show. I've always assumed to work for Brian Lamb, you have to be Brian Lamb...and all these folks have that "look" in their eyes...LOL.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 09:30 AM
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7. Brian has actually said on a past show that they get...
far more Democratic than Republican callers, so they split the lines to make it look like a balanced response.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 09:34 AM
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8. that's because rethug sheeple have no interest
in seeing their government at work. they prefer the corporate soothsayers summarizing it for them.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 10:46 AM
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11. Amazing
and who is more likely to put paid shills on a talk line than the GOP or have fanatics with nothing but a phone in their hands? Even so the "balanced" GOP people are so limited in their parrot talk one couldn't tell one from another anyway.

In a real fair and balanced open line format, this phony "two sides" nonsense would gravitate into a more healthy discussion among the sane who deal pretty handily with the the lunatic fringe and the dumb. The illusion fostered is that there is a more substantial and more radical RW presence among the population than there really is- even though they cannot offer real thought or facts anyway.

You can chalk up another crying demand for a REAL news network and REAL forums where such open "journalistic" uncritical self-duplicity is not standard fare in service of raw power.
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bejammin075 Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:28 PM
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22. Affirmative action for neo-tards
The ones that can dial a phone , anyway...

Where does the term "mouth breathers" come from? It sounds funny, but I don't get it.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 07:16 PM
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24. I'm not sure. It fits though. Many of them breath into the phone
while talking. You can hear them. It's as if they are overly excited.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:48 AM
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14. kick
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:24 PM
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15. Kick for freedom of the press!
:kick:
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:46 PM
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17. Send them some links journal@c-span.org
like www.downingstreetmemo.com

journal@c-span.org

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:51 PM
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19. They know about the damn memo.
They would have to be living under a friggin' rock NOT to know about it. Pedro was on this morning and I am a tad surprised he would evade the issue. He seems to be more Liberal-minded as opposed to Fascist Friday's Brian Lamb.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:57 PM
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20. Not dumb. It looks like policy.
I remember when electrions fraud was brought up early right after the election, the measured thoughful response was, "Are we going to have to hear THAT for the next four years?"
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:32 PM
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23. My reply Fuck Ye...ah!
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 10:44 AM
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25. Again (Sat) Morning they played dumb about Downing Street
(Brian?) Asked the caller where he got his info, that it seemed like an organized plan because they had two other call on this. He acted like he knew nothing about it. The caller said it came to light prior to the British election, and that it was leaked from government sources. Lamb asked where the xaller got his information and the caller responded mthat he got it from the internet because it is nowhere to be found on television news. He even mentionet the 88 signatures on the Conyers letter amd Lamb feigned ignorance.

If you believe any serious newsperson doesn't know of this memo I've got a bridge to sell them.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 10:48 AM
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27. important--see this thread and take action against Peter
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:43 PM
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28. Jesus....
They arten't dumb, they know exactly what they are doing; trying to bury it..
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