CNN reporting that White House is stunned

[notadmblnd]

I'm loving it today... they want bolton ASAP. IMO, that's gonna put a damper on their plan to attack Iran.

[wtmusic]

1. hahahahaha

The Chimp got a big 'ol Taser in his ass...'bout time!

:toast:

[babylonsister]

2. And Frist is prob on his way to church, searching for

the error of his ways. What a great week!

[triguy46]

88. Nah, he's on his way to buy another pair of $300 shoes

[Nite Owl]

3. Hope they get used to this!

[journalist3072]

4. Just made my freakin day!!!!

I'm waiting for someone in the White House to have a massive coronary, because FINALLY, they are learning that their agenda just can't be rubber stamped through the Congress!!!!!!!


Ooooooh what a feelin'!!!!!!!!! :)

[Shadowen]

100. I hope the media learns this, too.

Just the other day, CNN was saying that Bolton was "probably going to be confirmed".

Whoo!

[democrat in Tallahassee]

5. nah, they're only ragged out after a long squawk.

Ha I love this. Somebody's heads;s gonna roll!

[aeolian]

42. No, they're just pinnin' for the Fjords.

[Avalux]

6. Looks as if the June 6 deadline for Iran will have to wait

too bad for shrub. He's probably throwing a tantrum and breaking things - then he'll go on a bender. I expect to see visible facial abrasions in photos over the next few days. :applause:

[calico1]

9. ROFL! And a bandaid or two on his face? LOL! n/t

[Avalux]

14. Yep! Keep a look out! n/t

[KansDem]

85. Actually, I believe those wounds were not caused by "the pretzel"

or by his drinking, but rather by someone in the shadow government slapping him around. Perhaps some PNACer was upset over his progress in getting the New American Century in high gear.

[saltpoint]

7. Bush & the other hacks in the White House need to get a clue --

-- on Bolton:

He's a 5-star asshole and it's time to withdraw the nomination.

[natrat]

39. he is a rapist

[ComerPerro]

87. But that's why they nominated him in the first place

[wryter2000]

8. Lordy, I hope that's not BS

I'd love to think this was some nasty surprise for them and not just, "How could someone turn down such a wonderful candidate?" BS.

[Singular73]

10. What a wonderful week.

Frist is done.

[faithnotgreed]

15. welcome to du singular73 - and everyone else who is new here

we need all hands on deck!

[Clark2008]

57. I keep hearing a bunch of popping in the neighborhood...

not sure if it's Frist's veins or all my Tennessee (blue city) neighbors opening champagne. :bounce:

[Nikki Stone 1]

11. Me too

Though even Republicans might have reached their limit with Bolton. Any internationalists among them would know that Bolton would be the ultimate "screw you" to the rest of the world, even our allies.

[immoderate]

13. That's why I support Bolton.

Let the rest of the world know what we have to put up with.

--IMM

[Nikki Stone 1]

20. I don't think that would be the message, unfortunately

The Europeans think we actually voted the Shrub back in office because we approve of him. God knows what they would make of a Bolton confirmation.

[BelgianMadCow]

29. well not all europeans

at least I know better.

I remember the huge lines in Portland I believe it was on the day of the 2004 vote.

But I have never seen so much as a hint regarding fraud in the major media over here, so in general you are right...

[immoderate]

33. So how do they think Bush got in?

I don't see how Bolton can really do any harm. Whoever gets in will just follow white house policies anyway. Bolton has the "virtue" of being a visible embarrassment. He could facilitate whatever opposition there is to Bush at home. A Colin Powell there does us, the opposition, no good.

Why should we offer Bush camoflauge? Bolton's what he wants, and that's what he should have (for now.)

--IMM

[wtmusic]

36. John Bolton is a diplomatic disaster

Your "reverse psychology" would result in more terrorism and an even smaller role for the UN than it already has.

No chance. Bolton gotta go.

[immoderate]

43. Maybe, but I don't think so.

While I originally suggested that Bush should have Bolton to be snarky, (I'm not sure if that's how to use that word) the more I think about it the more I come up with :wtf:

Are there potential terrorists waiting for the Bolton appointment to go into action?

The UN might do better to write off the Bush administration.

I think we're looking at a chaotic system here, and Bolton is a "strange attractor."

Bolton is surely the worst choice for this position, and that is bad for Bush. Who would you suggest that would make any difference? Who is so bereft of self-respect that they would take this job?

It's Bush that's gotta go. His choice of henchmen is largely irrelevant. Anyone you might approve would have no power in this administration.

--IMM

[Nay]

50. I'm with you, IMM. The crappier the nominee, the better for us.

That asshole Bolton reflects exactly the nastiness of his Pretzeldent, and he would be perfect in the job. He also serves at the pleasure of the President, and a Dem prez would throw his ass out in the street ASAP. What WE have to worry about is Bush appointing extreme RW judges to state and federal LIFETIME positions.

We can get rid of Bolton; we can't get rid of judges.

[immoderate]

65. Absolutely right about the judges!

Let's concentrate on them.

--IMM

[wtmusic]

62. WADR

the UN can't "write off" the Bush administration. First of all, there's this 39-story building in Turtle Bay where it lives, breathes, and works...

Second--although the UN may not have much significance here, it has a huge significance in other parts of the world. You want a putz like Bolton representing us to the world through the only truly international government agency?

America's foreign policy problems can't mend until America is back in the fold of the UN. The UN Charter is a beautiful document. Read it, if you haven't. Appointing Bolton will make that impossible for the near term. Virtually anyone would be a better choice...Colin Powell? Richard Clarke? Hell, I'd rather see James Baker in there. The list is endless.

[immoderate]

67. Clarke or Powell wouldn't do it. They have some decency.

You're right, anybody would be better than Bolton. But they would want to do a good job. They would be frustrated and marginalized. Bush wants Bolton because he sucks, because he projects Bush's desires. Bush hates the UN. Nominating Bolton is proof of that. Even Baker has a reputation to consider.

I opposed Bolton. But the more I thought about it, the more it seemed fruitless to do it. Why do you think that Bush is purging the State Department and packing it with Neocon political hacks? Bolton will at least put an honest face on the Bush regime. It might help him get impeached, a very long shot.

--IMM

[leesa]

90. Powell has no decency. He lied in front of the UN and he KNEW he was

lying. He lied us into an illegal war.

[immoderate]

91. Call me sentimental...

But I think that someday he might express a little regret. I just somehow don't put him in a class with Bolton. I think he knew he was doing wrong. In other words, I think he's bad but not psychopathic -- if it makes a difference.:shrug:

No, I'm not writing him any recommendations.

--IMM

[Frederik]

86. I think the reason for sending

Bolton to the UN is that it will ensure that a diplomatic solution over Iran will not be found. Bolton has the rare quality of antagonizing anybody he meets.

And, he's in on all their devious plans, which a moderate might object to if he knew of them.

[immoderate]

93. Sounds right to me.

A moderate just might object. He'll get the Colin Powell treatment. Go along or get out.

--IMM

[catzies]

97. You got it exactly right. He's the man for the job, when the job means

destroy the UN, neuter it, and put it in a kennel. And that's why they want him. They'll accept nothing less than its total detruction. That's what this is all about. Oh, and more wars.

[johnaries]

99. PNAC and the neo-cons want us OUT of the UN! It's obvious that's why

they want Bolton in there. He'll piss everyone else off, and then cry that the UN is not cooperating and is against America. Then, Bush can start a populist movement to withdraw from the UN.

Then the UN can't hold us back as we advance American Imperialism, saying nasty things like "illegal wars" and such.

[journalist3072]

12. A song is going through my head right now

The one that goes "I'm walkin' on sunshine...oh, I'm walkin' on sunshine."

Since Shrub has been President, there haven't been many reasons to be proud to be an American. But right now is one of those rare moments. I feel good!

[LunaC]

16. Now they're really, REALLY dangerous

They have a bad habit of staging diversionary "Events" to force the unsuspecting public in the direction of their desires. If they planned on attacking Iran in June, they'll make it happen with or without Bolton.

[William769]

17. One of life's little pleasures.

[converted_democrat]

27. Welcome William769!!!!!!!!!!!

I love this site, I hope you enjoy it too.

[umtalal]

74. Tell us about your conversion, please.

:patriot:

[sojourner]

30. welcome to DU William 769!

:toast:

[umtalal]

73. Welcome to the DU,William!!!!!.

[IChing]

18. I'd love to see a quote and a picture of them being

STUNNED!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lisa]

19. but -- hasn't their frontman always had that kind of look about him?

How can you tell?

[gratuitous]

21. Well, right up until a couple of minutes ago

MSN was reporting that the Bolton confirmation was expected by an easy margin. Why wouldn't the White House think they were once again on the path to another easy victory?

Watch for the spin: The White House never really wanted Bolton, this isn't a setback, Bolton will eventually be confirmed, why won't the Democrats give him an up-or-down vote, blah-de-blah.

Don't believe any of it. The Democrats hung tough and whipped their asses. Bolton's nomination would be withdrawn under ordinary circumstances. The Bushistas will continue to try to ram him through, these not being ordinary times.

[northzax]

84. righton- any other president

with any other Senate, would have withdrawn, and any other nominee would have withdrawn to save the President the embarassment of losing to his own party's senate.

but not these guys.

[donkeyotay]

22. A whole week to stonewall another investigation into wrong doing

So give the nice Senators the names of the people Bolton checked up on. I'm sure it's not related to any OTHER cover-ups by this maladministration, so what's to fear?

Yes, we're all stunned to find out that even Republican loyalty has a limit. Amazing. Who knows what's next.

[FreedomAngel82]

35. Maybe it was all Voinovich's tears??

Maybe he pulled some heart strings?

[Zen Democrat]

49. The Republicans were loyal as ever. But for a change the Dems were loyal

(except for Landrieu, Pryor, and Ben Nelson.

The Republicans ranks didn't break. Even Voinovich voted to end cloture.

What's amazing is the Democrats held together by just enough votes to defeat cloture. This could be the start of something big.

[deadparrot]

23. hehehe.

Poor babies.

[MuseRider]

24. I was listening to

Randi Rhodes as the vote came down and it was really funny. They kept playing a crying baby since apparently Frist was the 42nd vote.

Feels good. Wonder what else they have up their sleeves?

[Blue_In_AK]

25. Stunned. STUNNED, I tell you. Hahahahahahaha!!!! n/t

[mcscajun]

26. Hmmm...I thought there was a typo: I thought "White House is stunted."

:rofl:

[Jim Sagle]

28. If w dropped dead, the White House would be stented.

;)

[SalmonChantedEvening]

31. How can you tell?

Bush has had that stunned look on his face since 1964.

:rofl:

[formercia]

32. Too late now, Summer coming to the desert.

and even the piss ants carry little umbrellas.


Sorry, Fearless Leader, The parade of Virgins had to be cancelled. One is sick and the other refuses to march alone.

[sendero]

34. LOL...

... "parade of virgins" :headbang:

[DeaconBlues]

37. they're stunned that America still has some democracy left in it

Stunned, I tell ya!

[BigBearJohn]

38. we better be careful or Georgie is gonna take his bat & ball home

[ailsagirl]

40. Awwwwwww.... tough luck, guys

:nopity: :rofl: :nopity: :rofl: :nopity: :rofl: :nopity: :rofl:

Bet the freepers aren't having a very good time of it, either.

:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

Definitely a good week for the Dems...

:yourock:

[Az_lefty]

41. Could bush make a recess appointment over the holiday weekend?

This recess appointment stuff is a little confusing as to how long the Senate has to be in recess for this to be invoked.

[journalist3072]

44. Good question

I think he probably good. If there is anyone here on DU who is a student of Senate rules, please advise. Could Shrub do a recess appointment this weekend?

[barbaraann]

45. C-span: Frist is very unhappy and Allen is not smirking!!!!!

Wow! I'll bet you Bush is screaming and Cheney is barking orders for retaliation.

[lala_rawraw]

46. Something happened today, no? I mean today

Was like a three year marathon:

Pentgram admits to Koran abuses
Delay friends go kaka
Citizens demand Impeachment inquiry
Bolton get back in closet
Amnesty says "hague this"
and more...

Am I seeing stars or is justice starting to penetrate the air again?

[Just Me]

58. Whoah!!! I missed ALL that?!!?!?!??!?!!??!!

Gee whiz,...the one day I turn everything off and the sun finally peaks through the clouds!!!

HMPF!!! *grin* Maybe, I should turn everything off more often *LOL*!!!:bounce:

[Clark2008]

59. Whoa, whoa... back up...

What citizens demand impeachment inquiry?

I haven't been able to read much online today (and Heaven knows this isn't fodder for the talking heads).

[lala_rawraw]

75. Um, check Raw Story top two articles...

[ananda]

64. my question is..

Why now?

Abuses.. DeLay crimes.. war crimes.. abrogations of the Constitution....

These things have been going on since 911, nearly four years, along with thumbing our nose at world opinion and rational discourse about serious problems like global warming and peak oil.

Another question is: Is now too late?

Sue

[lala_rawraw]

102. Two Words...

Critical Mass.

[Frederik]

94. It's karma, baby

[UrbScotty]

47. Can't stand the heat? Get out of the White House! (nt)

[Writer]

48. Rove, you're 0 for 4, bitch

Social Security
Terri Schiavo
Filibuster ban
Bolton fast-track

Yes, I'm keeping track, you overblown imp.

[Goldmund]

51. You forgot Poland

and stem cells.

[Writer]

53. Karl Rove is like Paris Hilton

Nothing more than a media phenomenon. Brain cells didn't make Karl Rove - an American tragedy made Karl Rove. His Bolton fast-track loss is only one more link in a chain of failures for this flop.

[jbnow]

52. The power play regarding documents

must be part of this. This administration's secretiveness even tries to exclude the senate.They've gotten away with it and I hope this time they can't.

[lonestarnot]

54. Glad to see them growing some balls for America! America! America!

[Democrat 4 Ever]

60. Even IF Bolton eventually gets confirmed he is now so compromised

he will be a non-entity at the UN. He is the laughing stock, goofy poster boy for Chimpy. He has no credibility with anyone except the repug slugs in the Senate and they won't being going to work with him every day in New York. He will have as much clout to reform the UN as a wet tissue paper. The other members of the UN will just put him on their ignore list and he will be powerless.

He can veto lots of stuff but when the day is done, he just represents one idiot with one vote - the rest of the Security Council will have him for lunch.

I'm glad he didn't make it through today and certainly hope his nomination is thrown out but IF he does make it through it will be an English farce with Bolton playing the starring role. Reform, my ass. He'll be lucky if he can get the UN to validate his parking.

[lonestarnot]

66. Optomistic!

[immoderate]

68. Yes, D4E

Bolton is the face of the Bush Administration. He will be the bell on the cat's tail. He can't be any worse than whomever else Bush sends, but he will be obvious!

--IMM

[lonestarnot]

78. Wait until the stuff comes out on him, then see if he can't be any worse

than whomever bushitler sends....

[immoderate]

79. Yes, they have me wondering.

If the sex stuff didn't hurt him, what are they hiding? The mind reels...

Again, my point is that our UN policy is so bad, no decent person would take that job under Bush.

--IMM

[lonestarnot]

80. Your point is way correct!

[Frederik]

89. That's the whole point

They're not going to "reform the UN". That's just a lame excuse for sending that lunatic and not someone qualified. Bolton's mission will be to ensure that a diplomatic solution over Iran will not be found. A moderate might object to that assignment.

[LaPera]

55. That is indeed what it's all about...

The weaken Dems know this...And prolonged it a bit...

It has become a long weekend, for BushCo.

[Hubert Flottz]

56. I told you folks that...

Bush can't even spell UN!

HEY, what happened to that bait the neoCons dangled in front of America right before the 2004 election, when they HINTED on EVERY channel that Bill Clinton MIGHT be Bush's pick for the UN?????????????

[alarimer]

61. I think something is about to break on Bolton

Worse than what already has. I just have a feeling that he is going down.

[notadmblnd]

63. They're saying bush is going to fight till the end on this

.. I'm hoping he's in for the first whooping of his life.

[immoderate]

69. And the first of many!

:popcorn:

--IMM

[hvn_nbr_2]

101. I have that feeling too.

I think that's what the "rumors" that Voinovich referred to are all about. I think that everyone in D.C. knows what these rumors are, and they're so outrageous that no one will speak them aloud, but they're true. V's emotion and tears show that something is terribly, terribly amiss here.

At this point, any other previous administration would cut their losses and withdraw the nomination, but Bolton is their giant "Fuck you!" to the whole world and they're sticking with it, believing they can get away with anything (possibly even including, well, use your imagination). This plus the nuclear option were their plan to completely consolidate power this week.

I suspect that the documents the Dems are demanding are damning enough to scuttle him but are not about the rumors. I've become cynical enough now that I even suspect that the whole demand for those documents issue is just a way for the Dem appeasers to give them a way out without ever coming to grips with the real issue of the "rumors."

But, like you, I think that something will break soon. Someone will break or someone will accidentally let something slip. V's reference to the rumors was probably a slip.

[bonzotex]

70. We shouldn't go to the mat over Bolton

Nothing constructive for the US is going to happen while Bush is in power. It doesn't matter what Fisthead they stick in there. Sure it will make the us look bad, but not as bad as all the other shit Bushco has done. Hold his nomination till they squeeze out some more damaging documents then let him go. He'll get his up or down vote. If he is confirmed, Bushco will look bad for appointing a a neocaon freak with anger issues. If he loses, then Bushco looks weak because they can't force through their nominations when they control the Senate. It's a beautiful win/win here. Reid and Boxer are playing this one perfectly.

[oasis]

72. Bolton is damaged goods. Time for him to take a photo with the Chimp.

[msanthrope]

83. You got it...let the Repukes carry this toady around...n/t

[Lugnut]

71. Awwww

What a shame. :sarcasm:

[alfredo]

76. Bolton's job is to increase the hatred for the US.

A happy, well fed, educated, and free world would show little interest in starting Armageddon.

[ms liberty]

77. This is all about the senate powers as a co-equal branch of govt

The dems started hilighting that viewpoint during the near-nuking and it's just as applicable in this circumstance. Some of the right wingnut senators seem to have forgotten that they're supposed to be independent of the executive branch.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

81. what happened with Bolton?

what new development is there? thanks.

[notadmblnd]

95. The Senate voted to put his nomination on hold until

next week. They once again requested the documents that Condelsleeza
Rice has so far failed to turn over to them. The documents have to do with Bolton and who he was "checking" on during his position in the current admin.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

96. ok, great, thanks!

thanks for the info

[warrens]

82. Nobody ever said no to little Georgie Bush in his whole life

It's just not fair. No fair. Gonna tell.

[zorro349]

92. The Freepers

are callin yesterday a filibuster. Which is very incorrect. They are also thinking that if there was a filibuster it would be breaking the senate deal. Well, it wouldn't b/c that was for judicial nominees... freepers aren't too smart.

[libertypirate]

98. Welcome to DU and no they are not too smart

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.