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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:33 AM
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Santorum took money from stem cell researchers
Senator Rick Santorum this week re-emphasized his opposition to stem cell research, stating that he was “disheartened” to learn that the House of Representatives voted to expand stem cell research and that he does “not support taxpayer funding for scientific research that involves the destruction of human embryos.” Yet Santorum had no problem accepting $55,500 in campaign contributions from companies that conduct stem cell research.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/05/santorum-took-money-from-stem-cell.html
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:36 AM
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1. Snowflake Baby Murderer!!!!
Oh, if we could just harness the power of GOP hyprocrisy, we would never have to use an ounce of fossil fuel again!!!
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Bill from Dover Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 12:44 PM
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69. GOP hypocrisy
I've known blastocysts with bettor morals.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:36 AM
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2. Oh, that is RICH!!!!!!!!!
Time to make up flyers, and hand them out after every catholic mass in PA!!!!!
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:18 PM
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46. Excellent Idea
Now, exactly when is he going to be refused communion?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:38 AM
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3. pharmaceutical Corp's are behind this, they want pill treatment not a cure
Edited on Thu May-26-05 09:39 AM by sam sarrha
.. there is money in charging rent on life whatever the quality.. no money in a cure.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:08 AM
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9. Exactly....that's why....
you'll never see a cure for cancer...and I think we all know that this isn't the only reason we will never see a cure for AIDS...especially not coming out of the U.S.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:17 AM
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11. I find this offensive
My wife has worked in the cancer field on clinical trials for the last 20+ years. The idea that the doctors and researchers involved in this don't want to find a cure is completely absurd.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:53 AM
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29. It's not about the doctors and researchers
But whenever greed plays any role, even doctors and researchers are not above temptation.

Those like your wife are the ones in the trenches, so to speak, they
are the ones that are doing everything that they can to find a cure, not only for cancer but for other diseases as well.

But your wife isn't an administrator, or a bean counter, someone who
can't see beyond the dollar signs, someone whose integrity can be
purchased.

And that could be where the problem lies, those that administrate.


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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 11:09 AM
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34. BULLSHIT
Not even worth argueing with you about it.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:29 PM
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41. Well, if it's such bullshit, then PLEASE tell us the name of this
honest and upright pharmaceutical house which would eagerly forego profits in favor of promoting a cure for any condition. I definitely want to know it's name. While you're at it, please share the names of their top execs -- or just a link to the corporation website, perhaps.
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Snake Head Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 05:02 PM
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51. Complete and utter nonsense
I'm a pathologist that has done a little research on cancer. The thought that anyone--whether doctors, researchers, or administrators--is blocking a cure for cancer or AIDS is simply ludicrous and reflects a lack of understanding of cancer and viral disease (and frankly is a bit paranoid). I absolutely hate hearing this crap. People are working their tails off looking for new ways of treating these diseases.

First off, cancers are cured by surgery, chemo and/or radiation therapy every day, depending on the stage (degree of development and anatomic involvement) of the disease. The problem with finding a "cure" (meaning a universal vaccine or pharmacologic agent) for cancer is that cancer is actually several scores of separate diseases. Cancer operates at the level of DNA, and is due to genetic mutations resulting in a loss of cellular controls that cause cells to proliferate without regulation. There are many mutations that cause this to happen and science is still working out many of the mechanisms. There is no magic bullet that will cure cancer--each specific type of cancer will have to be targeted with a combination of methods that will hopefully result in long-term remission ("cure").

As for AIDS...you have to understand that viral diseases are incurable once you are infected. You can develop vaccines to prevent infection, or have the immune system clear the virus or hold it in check. But the problem arises from the integration of viral DNA with host DNA. Once it's in there, it can't be cut out. Again, you have to rely on the immune system to suppress the virus from reactivating.

Sorry for the long post. Please understand that I greatly simplified things.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:40 AM
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4. Well, thats different
It was $55,000 after all.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:40 AM
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5. One face, two faced, red faced, blue in the face.
That's our Lil Ricky Saintwhorum!

:rofl:
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:46 AM
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7. I Keep Remembering a "Philadelphia" Magazine Cover Story...
...from early 1995.

"Senator Santorum. Be Afraid. Be VERY Afraid!"

Or even better, as Teresa put it, a "Forrest Gump with an attitude"!
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:27 AM
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15. Our real First Lady said that!?!
Edited on Thu May-26-05 10:44 AM by slor
Damn, can you imagine that intelligent woman in the whitehouse? How different a Middle East visit by her, could have been, and not some boyfriend murdering, glassy-eyed, Stepford lizard.
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bunnyhugger Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:36 AM
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19. hahaha!
the "first robot"......

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:32 PM
Response to Reply #19
54. Hi bunnyhugger!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #15
31. laura bush...
..."America's First Lady, First Mother"

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #31
67. Ew
I'd never consider her my mother. Her husband is too busy taking away my freedoms and surpressing me with his b.s.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #7
20. And right they were to warn us.
He's the ultimate leech. Whatever gets him to a place of power is all he believes in.

Truly an embarrassment.

:puke:
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 11:05 AM
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33. You Know its REALLY BAD...
...when you move from PA to a state that also has 2 republican senators (Snowe & Collins) and STILL think its an improvement.

nowe can be O.K. on occasion, but Collins' backbone is a little too bendable to the cheney/bush line. Still much better than arlen & little rickey!
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #33
50. 2 Arlens beat an Arlen and a Joker
:D
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:56 AM
Response to Reply #7
62. Teresa does know how to get to the point, doesn't she!? LOL! I love it!
"Forrest Gump with an attitude"!

I hadn't heard that one - & it fits! So well!

(writing it down in my little book of fundie-family email responses :applause: )

Santorum, Snowflake Sell-Out!


:rofl:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:43 AM
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6. Shock of all shocks!!!
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:49 AM
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8. 'Sanatorium' Is Just Another White House Mouth Piece....
...supported by the RW and the Fundies.
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The White Tree Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:31 AM
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17. As far as nicknames for Ricky go
Edited on Thu May-26-05 10:31 AM by The White Tree
I prefer Rick Sanctimonious Moron myself.

It seems to fit rather nicely. ;-)
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #17
21. I like Saintwhorum
God's lil fundraiser...
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 04:05 PM
Response to Reply #21
48. That was wickedly good. Thanks I needed that.
:woohoo:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #48
59. My pleasure mom cat
*hat tip*

:hug:
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:39 AM
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22. Sen Bob Kerrey's line: "Santorum - is that latin for asshole?"
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #22
42. Oooo, that IS good. n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:06 PM
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68. LOL
That's good. I like that one and Mrs. Heinz Kerry's. LOL.
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FuzzyDicePHL Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #17
63. I still prefer
"Sphinctorum"
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:10 AM
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10. HYPOCRITE!
:kick:
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Robworld Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:21 AM
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12. Rick Santorum...
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:22 AM
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13. Well Carl Levin said to Mr. Galloway...
that in America, politicians give the money back when they learn that it came from a source they do not support, essentially. Pay Up mister man-on-dog! Pay the fuck up!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:26 AM
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14. If Sphinctorum isn't the ........
most hypocritical, little weasel in the Senate, I don't know who is. Every time I see that pudgy little face with it's phony little look of piety and feigned outrage I want to punch it.
I don't know how he ever bullshitted the good people of Pennsylvania into voting for him, but i sincerely hope that they come to their senses and send this twit back to Virginia where he belongs. This seedy little carpetbagger needs a reality check and I'm begging the people of Pennsylvania to give him one.
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bunnyhugger Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:41 AM
Response to Reply #14
24. i am from PA
originally (now in CO) and the god-fearing people there that i know would only justify that by saying that "all politicians are shitbags" and that he was prolly the "lesser of 2 evils." they have to backpeddle or they'd prolly cry.
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 03:43 PM
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47. Except for those of us who recognized him as scum all along
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PittLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:41 AM
Response to Reply #14
25. Trust me ... we're working on it.
I had a dream about it last night. That is scary.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #25
53. Thank you....
Edited on Thu May-26-05 06:04 PM by ClintonTyree
I'll certainly donate to Mr. Pennacchio's campaign. Sphinctorum MUST go, no if's and's or but's.
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PittLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:37 AM
Response to Reply #53
61. Thank you thank you thank you ....
You have my utmost appreciation. Casey is not the only answer. :headbang:
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:28 AM
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16. Sounds like another stoy the media...
is going to avoid.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:34 AM
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18. Ha, that stinking hyprcrite.
No morals, double standards, money whoring idjut.

PA DU'ers, print this article and stick under the windshield wiper of every automobile in the state.
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d.l.Green Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:59 AM
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30. I'm confused. Acting against lobbying money I would think would indicate
Edited on Thu May-26-05 11:03 AM by d.l.Green
a good thing. Don't get me wrong, Santorum is scum(www.spreadingsantorum.com). However, if taking a stance against the lobbyists is bad then what is good? Returning money for going against a cause that contributes money to you may be "unethical" to those who are giving you the money. But if they are already aware of your stance don't you think their contributions are an effort to help you change your mind/twist your arm? On the other side of the coin, why would lobbyists give money to legislators who have already committed to supporting their cause?:shrug:
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:40 AM
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23. This MUST be used in 06
Along with his cyberschool scandal, living in VA, his intrusion into the Shiavo case, and so much more.

GET OUT OF PENNSYLVANIA!!!!!
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bunnyhugger Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #23
26. i am scared. i want our country back.
the very thought of frist, santorum, or any of the repuke losers we now have, running for the oval office in 2008 keeps me awake almost every night lately.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #26
27. Need to get him out of the Senate in 06 first...
That should neuter him for any 08 POTUS run.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 10:49 AM
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28. Also, his wife collected a huge malpractice award ...
just before he voted to cap such awards. If I didn't know better, I might think that little pRicky Sphinctorum was a raging hypocrite.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:35 PM
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43. I was't aware of that! Do you have a link or anything so I can read it?
That's too good...
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 04:12 PM
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49. Here you go....Link to his wife's malpractice case settlement....
A Virginia jury last night awarded the wife of Sen. Rick Santorum $350,000 in damages after she charged in a lawsuit that a Virginia chiropracter's negligence caused her permanent back pain.

http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/19991211rick2.asp
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #49
52. Thanks for posting that!
I knew he was a hypocrite, but damn...
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 11:04 AM
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32. "Release the fundies"
We should e-mail olberman this story.
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 11:13 AM
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35. Brownback will filibuster bill. What happened to up or down vote?
Every Dem should be saying as loudly as we can, "All we're asking for is an "UP OR DOWN VOTE" on stem cell research! After all, shouldn't majority rule?
Brownback prepared to use a "gimmick"?
If you're against stem cell research, then vote no.

How many more phrases can we throw back in their faces?
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 11:44 AM
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36. Well, maybe his stand makes sense in light of this info.
Follow my logic here:

1. He accepts money from a company already doing stem cell reaserch

2. Said company has already acquired funding for its projects and may not qualify for or need federal help

3. Federal dollars would, therefore, go more toward funding competitors or, (gasp!) public projects where the research results would be shared with the scientific community

4. Therefore, federal funding is NOT in the interest of the company which has paid Santorum, which explains his "moral" stand as well as any personal religious or ethical grounding
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 11:55 AM
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37. Monkey?
Edited on Thu May-26-05 12:01 PM by tinrobot
I read this as -- Santorum took *monkey* from stem cell researchers.

...and it made total sense that he would go from man-dog to man-monkey.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:09 PM
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38. I'm so looking forward to getting this guy out of office
and believe me, it can be done
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SusanF_CA Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:10 PM
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39. UBER-hypocrite!
OK...if one is against stem cell research than they shouldn't be using it in ANY WAY! That means along with not taking donations from the stem cell company's, they also cannot use any of the medical advancements that comes about because of the research. These fundies are going to have to ask if stem cell research was used in any way for any procedure or drugs they are given. And on the topic of embryonic research, isn't invitro fertilization a form research? Stay with me here....when IVF first started it was all research based experimental procedures. And because IVF is not 100% successful 100% of the time it can still be considered experimental. So, if fundies can't become preganant on their own, tough luck!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:12 PM
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40. 'Why does he hate snowflake babbie's?'
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Orion The Hunter Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 12:48 PM
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44. RE: Why is Santorum such an ass...?
I cannot even believe the level of hypocrisy that this Santorum joker subscribes to...

And as an aside, not all doctors and researchers involved in medical research starte careers in these fields with nothing but dollar signs lighting up their eyes. My father has been doing cancer research for over 30 years because he feels strongly about diseases that have claimed the lives of loved ones (like my grandfather). To use such a sweeping generalization that all medical practitioners are simply in it for the money is simply farcical.
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defiant1 Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 02:11 PM
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45. Not practitioners .... ADMINISTRATORS
The sweeping generalization you are referring to is non-existent.

The people who run the pharmaceutical companies (i.e. CEOS, Boards of Directors) have no vested interest in curing your disease. They might wax emphatic about helping their fellow man, but if they were so interested in helping their fellow man, prescription drugs wouldn't be as ridiculously priced as they are, and health care wouldn't be the quagmire it is. They have a vested interest in sustaining the financial growth of the companies they are employed by.

So curing the millions with AIDS, cancer, and any other disease that you can think of, doesn't do much to help their company's bottom lines. Now they can't get government grants for research, millions of Americans are no longer paying through the nose for their "legal" drugs, and everyone is out of a job.

And given the choice between curing your disease and sustaining your disease, they are going to walk the path that offers them the most reward.

It's called the American Dream.

They get rich, you get to live with your disease.

Everyone's a winner.

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #45
56. Hi defiant1!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #44
55. Hi Orion The Hunter!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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sjt73a Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:44 PM
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57. I can't believe this...
Only one of you actually read between the lines and saw for yourself the second point I make, below. The rest of you just completely ignored them.

1. Was it EMBRYONIC stem cell research, or ADULT stem cell research. The article wasn't specific. Only one is controversial. The other one is well funded and actually used, but hardly spoken of.

Good stuff

2. Even if it were embryonic stem cell research, they obviously didn't buy his voice. Isn't that what you'd want? Or are you now demanding that he vote the way his donors want?
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. Whaaa.....hey, anything that paints him in a potentially bad light
is okay by me. He will only get the fundy vote in PA in 06. Let's see how he wins with just the fundies.

Plus, there is soooooo much more on him, this was minor...only further illustrating his unending hypocrisy.
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sjt73a Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #58
60. We must have different standards...
for hypocrisy, because I was pointing out that this doesn't qualify. In fact, I fear it's pretty hypocritical to blame people for voting the way their donors want, then later blame them for voting against what their votors would want. Unless the donors do ASC research, which is pretty much okay by everybody's standards. Then add jumping-to-conclusions on top of the hypocrisy.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #57
66. Did AccuWeather Buy His Voice?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,157837,00.html

<SNIP>
Two days before Sen. Rick Santorum introduced a bill that critics say would restrict the National Weather Service, his political action committee received a $2,000 donation from the chief executive of AccuWeather Inc., a leading provider of weather data.

The disclosure has renewed criticism of the measure, which Santorum, R-Pa., maintains would allow the weather service to better focus on its core mission of getting threatening weather info out in a "timely and speedy basis."

Opponents say the bill would endanger the public by preventing the dissemination of certain weather data, and force taxpayers to pay for the data twice. The bill would prevent the weather service from competing for certain services offered by the private sector.
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Go back to F*&6erland.

Jay
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:02 PM
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64. Why am I not surprised?
Go figure!
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:02 PM
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65. Took Money from ACU weather too
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050527/ap_on_go_co/santorum_s_storm;_ylt=AknIL2S7v7BQktLG4jQHBlCs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2bW85OXIzBHNlYwNwbA--

hope that link works!

WASHINGTON - Two days before Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record) introduced a bill that critics say would restrict the National Weather Service, his political action committee received a $2,000 donation from the chief executive of AccuWeather Inc., a leading provider of weather data.

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