Man Shot With Taser by Tustin Police Dies

[ConfuZed]

Officers say they thought he was a burglar and that he struggled during his arrest.

A man shot by Tustin police with a Taser in an apartment that they believed he was burglarizing died Monday, authorities said.

Richard Alvarado, 38, of Orange, was pronounced dead at Western Medical Center-Santa Ana about 10:40 a.m.

"We really don't know what happened with him," Lewis said.

The altercation took place about 7 p.m. Sunday, he said, after police were summoned to an apartment in the 17400 block of Mitchell Street to investigate reports that a burglar had broken in...

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/state/la-me-taser24may24,1,7107954.story?coll=la-news-state

[CarefullyLiberal]

1. Reply

So the police Tazer'ed a guy that burglarizing someone's apartment????

Where is the problem here? I don't get it???

-Fergus

[ConfuZed]

2. The problem he died after being shot by a so-called...

"Less than lethal" weapon its not the first time it's happened, it needs to stop and this taser company should be put out of business in my opinion

[CarefullyLiberal]

3. Do you have a problem with the police using guns?

By the way, the picture of that guy is freaking me out, you have the advantage on me. :)

The dead guy was committing a violent crime, the cops showed up and tried to get him to surrender. He decides that he doesn't want to surrender so the cops aim a Tazer at him.

He dies after he gets Tazer'ed but according to your article we still don't know why he died. The autopsy will show us that, but even if it was the Tazer, so what?

Maybe the cops should have given him a good long hug?

Again, what is the problem here?

I posted this in a different thread on the same topic: In my personal opinion, it's not progressively liberal to support and coddle the criminal, you should be supporting the victim.

-Fergus

[ConfuZed]

4. Which part of "Less Than Lethal" Don't you get?

Its not about "coddling" the criminal and its not about kissing the cops ass stop trying to change subjects by bringing up the victim its about a device that is being touted as a none lethal weapon yet week after week we keep reading about 'taser' guns killing people IT HAS TO END!

[liberalnurse]

5. I don't see any problem,.....

:shrug:

The cops were doing their job for Cripes Sake.....Indeed, the criminal would not surrender.

[Bluebear]

6. So if a criminal doesn't surrender it's OK if he dies?

And you shrug it off? Remind me never to be under your care, nursey! ;)

[liberalnurse]

8. My excellent nursing skills have no relationship

to this criminal who chose poorly. You are insulting. You make a direct attack on me, as a nurse....an irrelevant issue, for having an opinion which is supporting of the law and the protection of innocent citizens.

What are you hiding from?

[Bluebear]

10. Sheesh, touchy!

Did you see the wink?

Criminals who choose poorly don't necessarily deserve death. Was he armed? Was backup called to try to avert this? Was any other less-than-lethal force used first? Do you know?

I support the law as well and their job is a dangerous one. But they are not always perfect.


>What are you hiding from?<

You from now on, evidently. Sorry you were insulted.

PS please see this thread to see how insulting I am towards nurses who also have a thankless job.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3723400&mesg_id=3723400

[liberalnurse]

11. No, I did not see the wink.....

I agree, they are not always perfect but their job is HELL. I take my cap off to all officers as the ones I do know, have a heart of gold and are amazingly contained with their frustration when criminals test the boundaries of civility.

I've taken lots of heat in Taser threads lately....:blush: :banghead:

[Bluebear]

13. Fair deal

and I hope no hard feelings. I don't think the problem is with the police, I think it is with the weapon. I absolutely think that the officers using them think they are safer than they are proving to be.

[liberalnurse]

15. I see them used ....and this "place" which will remain

nameless.....utilizes medical staff when the intervention is to be concidered. When the Taser is used.....it really has been a life saver.

[ConfuZed]

17. Tell me have you personally used a taser on your patients?

Seems like you some sort of agenda for protecting this taser company.

[liberalnurse]

18. No, I do not use a Taser on my patients......

I do love the Taser though....fantastic tool.

[liberalnurse]

21. Oh, I have used a defibulator......

Does that count????? Most of them didn't make it either.....

[ConfuZed]

22. I wonder whats your opinion on a woman killed by a LTLW a few months ago..

Keep in mind its not a taser weapon but I'm just want to know your opinion.

story: http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/22/fan.death/


Picture:

[liberalnurse]

23. I have no experience with them.....

and have not thought about them...ever.

[ConfuZed]

26. I give up trying to convice you...

because in my opinion you are just another heartless jerk its suprising that I ran into someone like you on this side of the fence and it scares me that you are a nurse but I'm not going to give up on standing on my principles, the taser gun should not be advertised or sold as a non lethal weapon because it isnt.

[ConfuZed]

7. If they kill someone with a taser instead of a gun... its okay?

I can't believe what I'm reading I hope not everyone shares this view.

[liberalnurse]

9. If you commit the crime...you assume the risk.

He chose poorly.

[ConfuZed]

12. I noticed people on your side of the argument avoid

addressing the fact people are dying week after week by these "non lethal" weapons.

[liberalnurse]

14. That said....I see daily that hundreds of people

are saved from injury and death from the use of a Taser to defuse a potentially explosive situation. We don't hear about those in the news.....

[ConfuZed]

16. Re: "That said....I see daily that hundreds of people"

*yawn* Freepers have made the same argument about iraq it doesnt make the war right the same goes for Tasers.

[liberalnurse]

20. Whooooo you really had to use your

imagination with that post.....nothing is relevent. I like strawberry ice cream.....and the HBO Show Deadwood......

[genieroze]

19. Another one?

:banghead:

[nochimp04]

24. must have been near the the Key Inn

Tustin has its bad parts. South of San Juan Street, West of the 5, The Key Inn Parking lot. Also stay away from the Jolly Jug parking lot, the Swingin Door or the Tustin Inn. There isn't much left, is there?

[The_Casual_Observer]

25. We have a big police force in Tustin

This happened in a high density apartment area , where they are always rousting people.