Reminder; We can impeach ALL of Bush's Judges if we win in '06

[benburch]

And we should.

[3waygeek]

1. On what grounds? n/t

[lonestarnot]

3. Because they suck ass? Or they smell like ass?

[benburch]

8. For as much grounds as they had on Clinton.

NOTHIBG.

[BrotherBuzz]

15. Representative Gerald Ford said it best....

"An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history."

[benburch]

19. Exactly right.

And this is just as "fair" as what Frist is trying to pull. Moreso as it does not require ANY rules changes.

[BrotherBuzz]

20. What's more I don't think Frist ever had the votes....

Not the 66 official filibuster rule change, nor the 60 up or down vote, and I really am beginning to think he fell short of the 50-plus-Cheney tiebreaker vote end-run rule change scam. Close only works with horseshoes and hand grenades - LOL.

[in_cog_ni_to]

2. We will never win another election

as long as we vote on evoting machines. It will never happen. The repukes OWN the evoting machine companies.

[darkism]

5. Very true. We COULD easily sweep in 2006 and 2008.

But we won't because we CAN'T win because THE MACHINES ARE RIGGED.

[Jawja]

4. That's true.

I get the feeling that these Senators acted to deny Dick Cheney the opportunity to "dissolve" the Senate as we know it. And after all, perhaps all those judges won't PASS an up or down vote?

But, it also appears that * is going to get ALL of his judges, even the Supreme Court?

[rigel99]

6. NOT LIKELY

until and unless we get rid of electronic voting machines,
they will rig 2006 elections the same way they rigged prior elections..

it's all over till we fix election fraud...

FYI...

CA, OH and many other states are about to buy massive amounts of Diebold or ES&S touchscreens, both owned by the same repbulican financial backers ....

nice thought, but campaigning and door knocking is no longer where our energies should be, rather , in the shutting down of electronic voting period...

[SnowGoose]

7. That might be a bad precident to set...

after all, even as bad as Bush has stained the republicans, there *will* be another GOP president/congress someday.

And they're meaner, and more vindictive than we are.

[benburch]

12. I'll worry about that day when it arrives. nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. No, not really.

To impeach a federal judge you have to be able to show some really, really gross or criminal misconduct (beyond bad ideology). It almost never happens. The John Birchers wanted desperately to impeach Earl Warren years ago (because he was "too liberal,") and they never came even close. But if the filibuster is preserved -- and this is really the big thing -- the Dems can still block the appointment of extremist Supreme Court justices, which is much more important than keeping these few nutjobs off the federal courts of appeals.

[Cocoa]

10. if the dems politicized the courts like that

no way would I be a dem.

[benburch]

14. And the GOP can do the same thing with impunity?

While we lay down and take it?

I don't consider that as an alternative.

[Cocoa]

16. when did they "impeach all of the dem-appointed judges"

I must have missed that.

When did the republicans impeach every single one of Clinton's judges?

And no, I don't mean when did they pocket-filibuster a lot of them. I mean, when did they impeach every single one of them?

[benburch]

18. Packing the court by pressure tactics is just as bad. nt

[AlGore-08.com]

11. Unless they've done something illegal in office, we can't

Impeachment isn't supposed to be a political weapon: it's supposed to be a legal proceeding against office holders who break one or more laws in office.

That's what a lot of the flap over the Clinton impeachment proceedings revolved around: whether Clinton had lied under oath (about his sex life), and if he did, whether lying under oath (about his sex life) was legal grounds for impeachment.

[benburch]

13. A "High Crime" is not defined...

for a reason.

[jmcon007]

17. I think our entire focus should be on jailing Bush, Cheney, Rove,

and Wolfowitz...just to name a few. They are murderous traitors to the extreme and they need to be brought to justice as quickly as possible if we win in '06 and '08.