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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:21 PM
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Clark vs. Perle on Wolf Blitzer
round three - ding...
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:24 PM
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1. Downing Street Memo....
n/t
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:24 PM
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2. British Inelligence report being discussed!
Perle's response coming up...
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:25 PM
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3. Perle "I do not believe the intelligence was fixed"
breathlessly awaiting Clark
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:26 PM
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4. Clark
this administration made up its mind to go to war in Iraq... most of the Senators knew it, and they were unable to change the policy
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:26 PM
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5. Whoa, a quote up on the screen ...Perle bullshits--Clark says Senate knew
Edited on Sun May-22-05 12:44 PM by Gloria
it was being used to justify the policy and they couldn't change the policy....most of Washington knew it.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:26 PM
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6. with no WMD -
Perle "yes, I would have advocated going to war anyway, because he had the POTENTIAL"

ARggggh
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:28 PM
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7. What was the rush?
Edited on Sun May-22-05 12:28 PM by FLDem5
quoting Blix??? Please

Clark, "that's a selective re-interpretation" "going to war against the Taliban wasn't sufficient"

They pushed the intelligence... it was strategic blunder"
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:29 PM
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9. Clark: "A selective reinterpretation of what happened."
A polite way of saying Perle is full of crap. "A strategic blunder." There are other threats of WMD proliferation that they havn't done anything about. Army is fully committed in Iraq but Iran has always been the bigger threat.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:44 PM
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30. Best line of the whole thing ... ayup!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:51 PM
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38. So should we call the Neocons "selective re-interpreters" then?!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 01:35 PM
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40. "SRI's" for short.
:7
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:29 PM
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8. kicking butt...
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:32 PM
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14. Yes, you could tell he was pretty pissed...controlled but his
voice was getting more and more intense and forceful....

That's my guy!! No pink tutu in sight...
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:29 PM
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10. Clark: Let me finish!!
He slaps down Wolfie! Clark just keeps on getting better and better.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:30 PM
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12. I know - he always seems so much better informed than Perle
I love him
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:30 PM
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11. HAHA! Clark doesn't let Bush-shill Blitzer interrupt!
"Just a minute - let me finish..."

I love it when Clark pushes those media whores around.

:7
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:32 PM
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15. I do too, but Clark is still being way too nice! I'm TIRED of nice!
I want a Galloway like Dem on these damn shows! Oh wait...guess there isn't any, huh?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:36 PM
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18. I've seen him get angrier.
Actually, this time around, he's using George Lakoff-type linguistics to make mincemeat outta Perle.
Too bad the sheeple and Freepers watching this have only a first-grade understanding of the English language.
If Wolf keeps pushing the Bush line, Clark will pop him - he's done it before.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:31 PM
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13. Oh. NOW we find the real reason for invading Iraq was because
Saddam didn't fully document what he did with the WMDs. Give it up, Perle. You're a tool and an idiot, and pretty soon you'll run out of even the lamest excuses. Feh.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:32 PM
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16. they are really running thin on the spin options on this one
aren't they!
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:35 PM
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17. does CNN do streaming video? nt
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:37 PM
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19. sorry - don't think so
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:39 PM
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20. Talking about "military option" for Korea.
Clark says "Of course, there is one."
"Could be a tough option. They have biological and chemical weapons..."

Perle says that if it came to the use of force, would be limited to destroying the weapons themselves.

In other words, Perle plans to attack that mysterious "nuclear plant" we've seen the same picture of in Korea, Syria and Iran. :eyes:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:39 PM
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21. North Korea "they have a million man army"
Perle "i think that if it came to the use of force, it would be for a very limited purpose... a few very specific targets from the air" oh please, we can just bomb a few sites and go on with our lives.

PLEASE
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:39 PM
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22. Clark responds (over Wolfs trying to change the subject)
Edited on Sun May-22-05 12:46 PM by FLDem5
we have to treat the enemies capablities with some degree of respect
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:41 PM
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25. Perle "I don't mean to make light of North Korea"
Clark on women in uniform "we have the right people in uniform"

"We should have dealt with North Korea first, Iran second, Iraq third"
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:40 PM
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23. Clark pops Blitzer and Perle AGAIN
Edited on Sun May-22-05 12:41 PM by Clark2008
Clark tells Perle he's an idiot (in so many words) and points out that we shouldn't be making light of Korea's weapons.

"We should have dealt with Korea first, Iran second and Iraq third because that was the order of the seriousness of nuclear proliferation." ~ Clark


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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:42 PM
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27. Perle also said that Iraq would have been a cakewalk.
I wished that Clark would have reminded us that Osama is still on the loose.

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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:41 PM
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24. Perle has no facts in his pockets or his head!
Clark we should have dealt with North Korea first, Iran, 2nd... Go Clark!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:41 PM
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26. I agree - He rocked that show!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:42 PM
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28. Bush picked his fight "backwards".....and Clark answers Wolfie
Edited on Sun May-22-05 12:47 PM by Gloria
in 10 seconds, earning praise from the dipshit.

AH, HAH.. ...10 seconds.....Clark getting it down perfectly!!!!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:48 PM
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36. If he didn't do it in 10 seconds, what could Blitzer have done?
I think after Clark smacked him down the last time he was on Wolfie's show, old Leslie Blitzer is scared of him.

:)
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:42 PM
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29. Clark in ten seconds: "Administration did it backwards."
Wolfie gave Clark ten final seconds: We should have dealth with North Korea, Iran, and Iraq in that order, that was the order of the threat. The administration went about it backwards.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:44 PM
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31. great quote - concise and amazingly TRUE!!!
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:45 PM
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33. Good soundbite material. n/t
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:48 PM
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35. Perfect n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:45 PM
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32. What's fucking new?
This administration does everything ass backwards....and does it very badly as well.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:48 PM
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34. Give Perle a break....
... he's like the one-legged man in the ass-kicking contest. No weapons to fight back with - except his oily, reptilian, soul-less mind.

When I was teaching Modern History to HS seniors, I showed a tape with Perle talking about winnable nuclear (MY kids all pronounced it correctly) war. The kids invariably thought he was Dr. Strangelove.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:49 PM
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37. I hope they keep this dog-and-pony show on the road
It is such fun to watch!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 12:51 PM
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39. I thought Rummy was Dr. Strangelove... Perle's just a waste.
:)
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 01:49 PM
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41. General Clark knew full well that
Perle was one of the policy neocons who wouldn't take the military's advice re Iraq. Now Perle was doing the same thing trying to make light of North Korea's million-man army. Boy, it was a wonderful think watching the General smack BOTH of those idiots down.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 04:39 PM
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42. Here's the transcript
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-05 05:28 PM
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43. thanks
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